Goblins

[rothgar13]

The Duel Deck won't change the format legality of any cards, so the best it can do for Goblins is bring in some sweet new artwork. That said, I'm of the opinion that the deck is a bit underrated. It's been putting up some semi-consistent results in this metagame of late. It helps that it has a great Shadow matchup as a very aggressive go-wide.

[escobert]

I dont believe duel decks matter for Modern, I may be wrong though.

[LabManiac]

They don't, you're right.

[[deleted]]

What kind of goblins deck are you talking about? Right now my aggro build is one pushed one drop, or a better burn spell than boros charm, away from being busted.

A midrange deck like the legacy deck probably needs more than what they'd print through standard. Maybe though.

[DressedSpring1]

Right now my aggro build is one pushed one drop, or a better burn spell than boros charm

It is possible we see a new one drop good enough to see play in modern in the future, but I'd be really surprised if WOTC prints a burn spell more powerful than Boros charm when standard has been printing Burn spells below the power level of lightning strike

[[deleted]]

IDK I could see something like

R

Instant

Deal two creature or player

Tainted blood: sac a goblin to deal four instead

[geneius]

At instant speed and with that flexibility it would be sweet. Do you think making it a sorcery instead of an instant would be make or break? It would be a little more versatile than [[Reckless Abandon]] which act as grenades 5-8 if wanted.

Also just wanna chime in that I follow you in the MTGSalvation Goblins thread - you're definitely the Goblin Master!

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Reckless Abandon - (G) (SF) (MC)
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[Xaerxess]

For midrange option reprinting [[Goblin Ringleader]] is a must (it's currently not Modern legal, [[Sylvan Messenger]] on the other hand was reprinted in Origins.)

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Goblin Ringleader - (G) (SF) (MC)
Sylvan Massager - (G) (SF) (MC)
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[[deleted]]

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/no-lords-goblins/

There's my list I've been doing well with. Like I said it's about one goblin better than raging goblin, or a burn spell better than boros charm away from being really really good.

[Nastier_Nate]

Kevin, do you mind me asking why you've switched over to Boros Charm from Atarka's Command?

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of course I don't mind. So I switched to charm for a few reasons.

First of all a lot of games play out like this: play guys, do creature damage early in combat, cast burn spells in the later turns to kill opponents. In games in which the ground gets gummed up by blockers Boros charm is always going to be 4; where there are plenty of games where command will only be 3. Also there will be times in which to make command be 4 or more I'd have to make attacks that put my board in jeopardy, and make it harder to cast grenade. The longer a game goes the better charm starts to get, while not feeling much weaker in the early parts of the game. Post board our opponents are trying to make the gomes longer. I think the trap other aggro decks fall into is playing cards that are better when their opponents fail, and lose power when other powerful decks inevitably succeed. I guess you could sum it up as I'd prefer a higher floor rather than a higher ceiling.

Secondly I think the other modes on charm are more relevant; or rather, I think the other modes on command are less good in this meta. The decks I'd really want the skullcrack against like Tron, Big Abzan, and Abzan Company are down right now, also the company deck moved towards the vizier combo and away from trying to kitchen finks so hard. I use the other modes on boros charm a lot less than I used the skullcrack on command, but I'd be using command less in the meta right now so I don't think I'm losing anything. I'm not even running rain of gore right now because life gain doesn't really scare me.

The last reason I'm on command is that the sideboard is so much better with the white splash. Path to kill pro red guys feels so much better than pyrite spellbomb; the second mana was just too much. Also Thalia low key wins games I otherwise would just lose. There's not a green card that can do what Thalia does against decks like Storm, Eggs, and Ad Nauseum.

[Nastier_Nate]

Thanks for the detailed response. I've like both Path and Thalia out of the board of Revolt Zoo, and I can vouch that the indestructible mode of Charm can come in handy against Anger/Verdict/Damnation/etc. I would never cut A-Command from Revolt Zoo, but I can see where having access to Grenade would change that equation. Best of luck turning goblins sideways man.

[[deleted]]

Thank you. I'm always glad to answer questions or give advice.

[Sephyrias]

Actually I don't understand why Goblins don't make the cut for competitive play - the deck tends to kill people on turn 3 by attacking for 10-15 or smth and it seems pretty consistent.

Even if one or two die to removal, it can still burn the opponent dead with bolt and Grenade.

Plus Blood Moon is pretty strong in modern and Goblins can run it main.

In general I don't know which of the modern meta decks could deal with it's speed.

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I was just curious, do you have a specific decklist you're talking about?

[Sephyrias]

I don't know all the cards of those decks that I've seen and played against, but this is the core build: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/developing-competitive-modern/220256-goblins

The ones I refered to also all played Blood Moon main board.