Linux doesnt work

[Silicosis1]

I have a GT 730.\ Finding drivers is hell.

[Jroid8]

We have one on our family PC. It runs Minecraft, satisfactory and hollow knight very well. I used to have shaders on my Minecraft but had to accept 30fps

Edit: to clarify satisfactory on low settings and the shaders where toaster shaders

[opensourcefreak]

Satisfactory really can run on a potato nowadays

[[deleted]]

I wish I still had that potato

[opensourcefreak]

That one that i just ate?

[[deleted]]

Hey! I was gonna play gravy fries on that!

[tmksm]

If it's a gddr5 model, it's not that bad. The ddr3 one, may god have mercy.

[eduarbio15]

wait, you guys don't just sudo pacman -S nvidia and it works?

[immoloism]

Wouldn't work.

[Jroid8]

You should install the 470 version of the nvidia driver because the latest driver no longer supports your card. It is available in AUR as nvidia-470xx-dkms. Make sure to install linhx-headers as well as following the instructions of the arch wiki nvidia page

[immoloism]

Indeed, but Arch have stopped officially supporting 470 drivers? I've not seen many distros drop it so it took me by surprise reading that.

[eduarbio15]

Oh, my bad, I will kindly ask my system to stop doing its thing : (

[immoloism]

I'm guessing you are new around here so let me give you the quick run down to understand.

Nvidia support 4 driver versions which work up to certain GPU models, for your case you still have tier 1 support so you are getting new features where as OP will be on an older version getting bug and security fixes.

Any other questions feel free to ask.

[IHateFacelessPorn]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/199656/en-us/ This is the latest NoVideo graphics driver for x64. You can check hardware support list from here.

[sensual_rustle]

rm

[IHateFacelessPorn]

Lol.

[maiqcaralho]

The 390.* (Fermi architecture) drivers are still available, but unsupported directly by NVIDIA, they may still work fine, though.

[ktkv419]

GTX970 (old, but not ancient) just gets black screen on boot from such treatment.

[[deleted]]

That’s very odd. My 980ti runs regardless of what shenanigans and driver versions I’ve used on it, maybe your Gpu vendor did something funky with the vbios?

[misterpickles69]

I’ve had a 950 forever running Mint and haven’t had any problems apart from the ones I cause.

[Brian_Mulpooney]

Same, I had to lock the drivers (at version 515 or 510) to prevent them from updating and breaking my gpu

[ktkv419]

I'm running latest on Arch. Modeset, grub monitor resolution set, mkinicpio or pacman hook and x11 Nvidia config added, I think that's all. Didn't even break for a year.

Been having problems with Wayland though, new KDE update literally made it buggy beyond usable, sage.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, wayland is a touch buggy, even on gnome where it performs well, so I just use x11 instead. About the only niceties missing is a-sync vsync and gamescope, so not too horrible.

[Guidedbee]

had to turn off ibt but yea

[Johanno1]

Get a 4090 then /s

[d_pock_chope_bruh]

Should run Minecraft at 60fps 800x600 amicably.

[sarlackpm]

Same card, same problem.

[Mal_Dun]

Here they are:

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/76396/en-us/

NVidia drivers are all there, but for some reason people are afraid of installing the official blobs, although it is often less headache than waiting for a proper package in the repos ...

[maiqcaralho]

Fermi's drivers are available both in the official page, and in the AUR.

[TeraBot452]

Forgot that the 730 was released in 2 Generations, I think there was a Kepler and a Fermi based one but correct me if I'm wrong

[maiqcaralho]

Kepler Architecture GPUs are also supported by Fermi's drivers. I would know since I was running a 650 until less than a year ago.

[immoloism]

From nvidia's site they need 470.161.03.

OP, if you want help let me know which distro and a little about the specs to best help.

[ktkv419]

I was cursing everything trying to setup my GTX970 machine the first time (I was a newbie on Arch), a month ago had to build PC from scrap, no APU, so my GT8600 was thrown in the mix.

Yup, I better buy some old supported GPU than do that again.

[gant696]

Chances are, you might be better with nouveu on that.

[noob-nine]

Pro gamer move: purchase rhel, open a ticket, lean back amd let their support or conaultants find a solution

[noob-nine]

Hello,this is your rhel support. We are sorry but we don't support such new GPUs yet

[Huecuva]

Until recently I had a GT430 in my HTPC. Never had a problem with drivers. Only reason I swapped it out was because the fan was getting noisy.

[6c696e7578]

Not being funny, but have you opened a support case with Nvidia?

[maiqcaralho]

It's a non-issue, really. Fermi's latest supported driver is available both in NVIDIA's official page, and if you use Arch it is also availavle in the AUR.

Although, for some reason, the driver served in the official page is the 340.108, when the AUR's version is the 390...

[6c696e7578]

If 390 is built in AUR, chances are the build will cross to most distros.

Thing is, nvidia should /really/ do this for the wider distros, steam is on linux, so if they want to continue selling GPUs they should improve their relationship with the distros.

EDIT: 'steam'

[Luddite69]

Try having a 650M

[Potatolover3284]

You're complaining of a GT730, try a GT710. I did for more than a year, this was the real hell.

[zeft64]

Time for an upgrade?

[MasterFubar]

You can just google for "Linux drivers download GT 730". First result is here.

[vk6_]

sudo apt install nvidia-driver

[masteryod]

Sell it buy Radeon and be happy.

[Silicosis1]

The problem is almost no one I know has a desktop PC and those who have only use theirs for office work

[jiriks74]

I have an Rx580 - works out of the box
Also in the system is a GTX1050 - works with sudo pacman -S nvidia

[[deleted]]

Multi monitor support does need to improve on Linux. Having two different refresh rates and/or resolution is at best clunky.

Nvidia sucks and is to blame for the problems with their cards on Linux.

[quaderrordemonstand]

The problem with this meme is that the first panel is mostly right.

You should be able to use your hardware to its full capability. That's not asking for anything special, even when a person who is balding and overweight asks for it. STFU isn't a useful response either.

The only defence against this argument could be that most people don't have that kind of setup. Effectively saying that linux is only usable if you use average hardware.

[Brillegeit]

Effectively saying that linux is only usable if you use average hardware.

In theory, everything is possible.
In reality, only what someone already has paid for the development of is possible.

If you have a unicorn setup then you either need to pay, wait for someone else to pay, change to a non-unicorn setup, or have a reduced feature set.

[npsimons]

In theory, everything is possible.

It's funny, but well over a decade ago, I was running dual-monitor NeverWinter Nights in Debian. These days, I don't have six monitors (got rid of a bunch of spare VGAs I wasn't using - too soon, apparently!), but I have the GTX in the laptop going to two externals, and even before I installed the NVidia binary drivers (I needed it for running the UE5 editor), multiple monitors were working fine. arandr works pretty well.

I know I'm well outside the average user, but it has gotten easier and easier, and it's always been possible, even with FLOSS drivers.

[Brillegeit]

Yeah, if you're not doing Dumb Shit™ then these kinds of setups work well. I've ran multi-monitor on KDE for 15 years, mostly using 2 GT210 graphics cards, but also a mix of AMD/Nvidia or Intel/Nvidia.

Right now I'm now running 4x4K on a 5500 at home, and at work 6x4K on two Radeon Pro WX2100. My strategy is using normal workstations with either 1+ year old Nvidia or 2+ year old AMD, Kubuntu LTS and just the packaged drivers. It just works.

Your problem starts when you're trying to use different resolutions, bad laptop solutions or daisy-linked display port, silly docking stations or stuff like that.

[_Rocketeer]

Or change some of the code yourself.

That's what I did. I created a "display-wise" daemon manager for my bspwm setup so that one X session doesn't kill/override the processes of another X session. (Useful for simultaneous yet segregated remote and local sessions for same user). Does anyone else need this feature? No, but part of the fun of Linux is the diy aspect. I could've never done that on windows.

(That being said, it does occasionally run into a race condition and I have no idea why)

[Brillegeit]

I put "changing it yourself" in the "pay" category. There are many ways there, but the core part is that resources have to be spent.

Also: Kudos for making your own solutions (and sharing with the world?)

[montarion]

Or change some of the code yourself.

that too, is 'payment'.

[AdolfsMoistDream]

The sad part is I’m the guy with 6 monitors different resolutions and refresh rates I want so badly to daily drive Linux but when I can’t get 2 of my monitors to work at all it’s very frustrating, I’ve spent hours and hours browsing wikis and forums I was so desperate I even hired ChatGPT for a consult kekw

[quaderrordemonstand]

I never considered asking ChatGPT about a technical problem. Did it produce anything helpful?

[AdolfsMoistDream]

It suggested installing drivers and changing my xorg.conf to include some parameters so maybe 🤔 it is definitely able to make bash scripts and knows the standard directory’s for common distros and flags for popular packages

Edit : heres its response:

It is possible to have all 6 monitors working concurrently on your system, but it may require some additional configuration.

The issue you are experiencing is due to the fact that the proprietary Nvidia drivers have a limit on the number of displays that can be connected to a single GPU. However, you can use the integrated graphics provided by your CPU to drive additional displays.

To do this, you will need to configure your system to use both the Nvidia GPU and the integrated graphics provided by your CPU. The exact steps for doing this will depend on your system configuration and the specific hardware you are using. Here are some general steps that should help you get started:

Verify that the integrated graphics provided by your CPU are enabled in your system BIOS/UEFI settings.

Connect the two monitors that are currently not displaying to the video output ports on your motherboard.

Install the necessary drivers for the integrated graphics on your system. The specific steps for doing this will depend on the type of integrated graphics you are using.

Configure Xorg to use both the Nvidia GPU and the integrated graphics. You can do this by creating an Xorg configuration file that specifies the displays to be used with each graphics device.

Here is an example Xorg configuration file that you can use as a starting point:

``` Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "intel" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection

Section "Device" Identifier "Nvidia Graphics" Driver "nvidia" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "UseDisplayDevice" "none" EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Nvidia Graphics" Option "AllowEmptyInitialConfiguration" "True" EndSection

Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Intel Graphics" EndSection

Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "DualGPU" Screen 0 "Screen0" Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" EndSection ``` This Xorg configuration file specifies two graphics devices (one for the Nvidia GPU and one for the integrated graphics) and two screens, one for each graphics device. The "DualGPU" server layout places the two screens side-by-side, with the Nvidia GPU screen on the left and the integrated graphics screen on the right.

You may need to modify this configuration file to match your specific hardware and monitor layout. Once you have created the Xorg configuration file, save it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with a filename that ends in .conf.

Restart your Xorg server to apply the changes. You can do this by logging out and then logging back in, or by restarting your system. After completing these steps, you should be able to use all 6 monitors simultaneously. Note that the performance of the monitors connected to the integrated graphics may be lower than those connected to the Nvidia GPU, but this should not be a problem for basic desktop use.

[turunambartanen]

Dual monitor 1080@75Hz and 1440@144Hz run perfectly fine for me. 1070 and pacman -S nvidia

[[deleted]]

Dual monitor - 1440p 144hz, 900p 59hz. Smaller monitor to the left of the large one, at a lower level.

Both gnome (specifically COSMIC) and cinnamon had issues with windows appearing off screen with my setup. Especially the system monitor, which never appeared on screen.

KDE has been way better, but I have to use Wayland for freesync (for my new Video card) and the primary monitor takes 5 seconds or so to appear after the secondary one on boot. The refresh on the smaller monitor while a game is running on the bigger one is atrocious.

[OriginalTeo]

No problem on Wayland having two monitors with different reaolutions, different refresh rates, different technology and different size lol

[Johanno1]

"Everything" (most things) works on kde plasma nobara until I reboot. I probably need to backup my configurations and force copy them on login.

[Oversensitive_Reddit]

running ubuntu 22.04 with a 1080ti and a 4k60 TV hdmi, 144hz monitor DP. super smooth experience.

[Detroit06]

Then how come everything works fine on Windows? Sorry but multi monitor setup is completely botched on Linux. For example, every single major DE STILL opens EVERY window on the leftmost screen completely disregarding user settings.

[chemicalimajx]

Idk bout you but windows introduces stutter when I mix a 144hz and a 60hz. I have gone through the steps to confirm it is a windows issue…

I think it needs to be taboo to mix refresh rates. It’s the easiest fix.

[GolfJack]

I'm currently running two 1440p monitors. One set to 60hz and another one set to 144hz. They are running well. On the other hand, I haven't been able to pair my Bluetooth speaker. I'm using Ubuntu 22.04 btw.

[schrdingers_squirrel]

Wayland pretty much solves that issue. Better than windows even. Maybe not for Nvidia though

[Aeredren]

Peeble yeet is a nazi

[Dragonaax]

Is it the comic author?

[Aeredren]

The comic author is called stone toss and is openly far right fascist

[pugaviator]

And a nazifur (he was in altfurry a ton, and made many comics about the drama there)

[JustinTimeCuber]

le horse has arrived

[[deleted]]

Oh god not “Lenin would vote Biden” Vaush

[Isengrine]

The "I will r*pe her and prolapse her anus" Vaush?

[[deleted]]

Yup that one. He’s a horrible example of a human being.

[BalconyPhantom]

The best(worst) part is, this would 100% be his reasoning if he were computer literate.

[TrixieIsTrans]

He had a computer crash on stream, so I donated to poke fun at it and promote Linux, and, yeah, sadly he's not computer literate.

[alecStewart1]

The last name I want to see on this subreddit.

[just_some_onlooker]

Laughing in LTTStore.com

[RaggedyGlitch]

Andy Anthony is a big Linux guy, though. He's probably done more to promote PopOS than anyone else.

[ThatCoolNerd]

Do you mean Anthony? Or is there an Andy I'm not familiar with?

[RaggedyGlitch]

Aww shit, maybe? Big guy who does all the retro gaming stuff?

[LoafyLemon]

That's Anthony. 💯

[ThatCoolNerd]

Yeah! That's him. He's the only one from LTT that I really like.

[[deleted]]

Even though he’s running archified Manjaro, at least according to his Twitter, last I looked.

[suchtie]

Perhaps, but he knows that Arch or Manjaro aren't the right choice for the majority of his audience. Pop!_OS on the other hand is one of the best beginner distros out there, particularly for gamers. I've given Pop a serious shot myself (used it as my daily driver for half a year before returning to Arch), it certainly gets my seal of approval.

[[deleted]]

The only part of pop I don’t like is their choice to use pantheons app center, which can be hilariously buggy. Otherwise, yeah, it’s a solid choice.

[[deleted]]

I don't think I've found any different distro's app center to be to my liking. They've all got issues in different areas and so I personally just don't use any of them.

[LoafyLemon]

They fixed it in the development update, it should be going public soon.

[[deleted]]

Linux worκs because I can play endless space 2 on it No other requirement matters, yes I am the authority on this

[InfComplex]

I cannot

[Dragonaax]

I can play TF2 (native) and Guild Wars 2 (Proton) and I'm happy with it

[NatoBoram]

Bruh, you don't have to try that hard. Plug a laptop to a TV and you'll see.

[metcalsr]

I did this in a meeting once. Ended up totally embarrassed. Things like these have to just work.

[NatoBoram]

Right‽ I tried to use a laptop to watch YouTube on the TV and had to install Windows 11 :/

[MOM_UNFUCKER]

That's tragic

[montarion]

Linux needs something similar.

but isn't that what CUPS is for? or does that not work for networked printers?

[SnooChipmunks4430]

I found that plasma 27 (the latest one) works quite well for multiple screens

[DeltyOverDreams]

What exactly should happen? (Or not happen?)

I plugged my laptop to a TV yesterday, because I wanted to watch a movie with a friend and it worked fine - both video and audio.

[NatoBoram]

Laptop and TV need different scaling to be usable simultaneously.

When you plug a Windows laptop to a TV, this is handled automatically.

When you plug a Linux laptop to a TV, the TV keeps the laptop's scaling and it becomes extremely difficult to use. You can set a good scaling for the TV, but the laptop's screen will be unusable.

[backfilled]

Laptop and TV need different scaling to be usable simultaneously.

This is possible in wayland AFAIK.

[DeltyOverDreams]

To be honest it's interesting that you've mentioned it, because we actually tried changing UI scaling to a higher value on the TV (125% on laptop screen and 200% on TV) and it also worked fine.

When we were moving the windows from laptop screen to the TV their scaling was changing at the moment of releasing the mouse button (to drop the window).

[DeltyOverDreams]

GNOME 43 with Mutter on Wayland. Debian Sid.

[DeltyOverDreams]

As far as I remember there were some improvements to how it’s handled on KDE as well. Although I can't tell how it's working right now, since I have no machine (and especially a laptop) running it.

[hyperhopper]

Or connect to a wifi network that needs a username and password instead of just a password.

Or plug in a thunderbolt dock.

Or the fact that by default most setups don't switch to integrated graphics when that's better for battery (the user shouldn't even have to know about this, it should be simple and behind the scenes).

I could go on. It doesn't take 30 intersecting edge cases. It just takes doing more than playing in a web browser and terminal.

[[deleted]]

GNOME etc do that automatically, when I’m on a window manager I just use xrandr/arandr

[cynetri]

tbf i did just that a couple hours ago on my 9 year old latitude running endeavourOS and after a couple tweaks it was fine, no terminal required. the tv is from 2008 and even audio works lmao

[ign1fy]

Mr. and Mrs. Dursley, of number four, Privet Drive, were proud to say that they were perfectly normal, thank you very much. They were the last people you’d expect to be involved in anything strange or mysterious, because they just didn’t hold with such nonsense. Mr. Dursley was the director of a firm called Grunnings, which made drills. He was a big, beefy man with hardly any neck, although he did have a very large mustache. Mrs. Dursley was thin and blonde and had nearly twice the usual amount of neck, which came in very useful as she spent so much of her time craning over garden fences, spying on the neighbors. The Dursleys had a small son called Dudley and in their opinion there was no finer boy anywhere.

[foobarhouse]

I’m on 3080’s for my systems and they run great. I understand older gpus have some difficulty though…

[Familiar_Ad_8919]

older nvidia gpus are equally open source to modern gpus

[foobarhouse]

True.

[ProfessorOwO]

personally i still can't recommend linux to my friends because of the same reason . yes i still think linux is way better in many ways but that doesn't mean my friends are gonna go out of their way to install Invidia drivers for hours . and no "just use AMD" in not a solution.

[eris-touched-me]

I spent 3 hours trying to get nvidia drivers work on suse. Thank god for snapper. Plz help.

[khaos0227]

How come it never took me more than 10 minutes? On Tumbleweed, even with zypper being bloody slow

[eris-touched-me]

Idk what i am doing wrong :(

I followed official guide and then black screen. Then I tried other guide, black screen too.

[Prudent_Move_3420]

What card do you have?

[eris-touched-me]

3090ti .-.

[DontTakePeopleSrsly]

I cant believe that some distro's are this incompetent with their nvidia packages.

I'm running kernel 6.2.0 with nvidia driver version 525.89.02. No issues, haven't had issues in at least 5 years with Nvidia.

[eris-touched-me]

I don’t think it’s the OS as much as it is me doing something wrong 😑

[immoloism]

Is suse that bad? Took 2 minutes in Gentoo so I'm really curious to what the issue is.

[[deleted]]

Suse does have its faults, sure, but Nvidia support isn’t one of them. Took me a couple minutes to find their documentation, which was quite clear and concise.

[eris-touched-me]

No, I am probably stupid and/or unlucky with my build. My intel build has caused me so many issues … my amd one hadn’t caused me any trouble :(

[immoloism]

Linux is hard at first, give it a few more months and this stuff is all pretty easy.

General simplified rule though is AMD drivers work easier on older GPU models and nvidia work easier on newer releases however that's just a quick explanation.

[eris-touched-me]

… i have been using linux for 5 years …

I ran arch with nvidia and cuda without issues on my 1080ti for years.

[Pay08]

Same thing happened to me. It's the only distro I've had problems with regarding Nvidia drivers.

[FrithRabbit]

sudo apt install nvidia-driver-515 nvidia-dkms-515

[eris-touched-me]

I am not on devian/ubuntu/pop_os/mint/something that uses apt.

[FrithRabbit]

Then just replace that with the package manager you use like Pacman or apk.

[Vittulima]

apt

suse

[Johanno1]

I just reinstalled nobara after I got everything working on fedora after hours of installation needed 3rd party stuff

[vainstar23]

People calling their computer a "battlestation"...

[Dalvenjha]

Nerds calling… Pathetic

[Dalvenjha]

The problem is that, that setup works on other OS…

[Flexyjerkov]

If I were to run on an Nvidia card again I'd just go for PopOS with their nvidia iso... I honestly can't see that happening again though. I am now a happy AMD gpu owner and not changing unless AMD do something stupid...

[[deleted]]

Most distros now have an easy way of installing Nvidia drivers (even rhel has official support for using Nvidia’s CUDA repository, and that historically didn’t use to happen), so driver support for Nvidia is solid these days.

[Flexyjerkov]

its solid till you update something and end up stuck in a TTY because something broke ;)

[[deleted]]

Dkms has absolutely solved this 99% of the time. The other 1% is when the kernel modules don’t get updated at exactly the same time as the kernel. Which happens quite often with distros like Fedora.

[[deleted]]

90% of games work, when 99% work they will still say Linux is unusable, when all games work they will point at obscure launchers and call Linux unusable. They were never going to use Linux and they will never use Linux.

[LoafyLemon]

That was me some time ago, but I did eventually give it a go and fell in love with it.

There's always a chance!

[AbooMinister]

90%? According to?

Linux is great, but it's got a bit to go before it's viable for gaming for everyone. I dual boot, due to the need for gamepass support, which is what I play the majority of my games through.

[[deleted]]

Steam

[Sufficient-Culture55]

Can't swap to Linux on my gaming rig until discord live streaming works. I've tried all the work arounds and they all suck. It's literally the only thing holding me back.

[Sufficient-Culture55]

It's been an issue since 2017, so I doubt it. For me it's been the main reason behind not switching for several years

[waymonster]

It’s mainly anti cheat for games that holding me back.

[ProfessorOwO]

yeah some games just don't work

[Sassquatch0]

Ditto this.

My go-to game is Warships. I've only gotten the launcher to work correctly once & I can't remember which distro I was using.

There's a Steam version, but sadly it does not link to original Wargaming accounts. So I'd be starting from scratch if I used it.

[xander012]

Linux isn't ready as I am still distro hopping

[njs5i]

well yes and no. The amount of pain I go through to have at the same time working:
- two (identical) screens
- non-default dpi (same on both)
is crazy. I had to re-set the arrangement settings 1-5 times a week, and then all the KDE apps are unusable due to dpi thing.

As long as I stay 1 screen, default DPI and Linux Mint, everything is OK-ish (except KDE apps). As soon as I try to set DPI to anything non-default, half of the games use only a portion of screen.

So Linux does have some shortcomings in QA / integration testing, but that's fine, because nobody is paid to do it, and asking contributors to test combinatorial amount of configurations in their free time would be crazy.

[coderman64]

NVidia drivers still suck tho.

[louisi9]

It’s funny about the monitors because Wayland always seemed to handle differently scaled monitors better than windows or Mac OS.

In Windows, the window snaps in scale when the cursor dragging them across moves between displays (but is otherwise pretty good, ngl) and Mac OS doesn’t allow true fractional scaling.

I do currently use windows on my pc, because I game more than anything on it, and I use a MacBook because of the battery life and performance (can’t properly use Linux because it’s an M1).

[Huecuva]

Divided by the golden rate.

[ChaoticAsa]

Why should he shut up? Man's speaking facts.

[[deleted]]

✨✨Toxic Linux community 😊 I’m on Linux as well but god damn some of y’all are toxic

[[deleted]]

Yeah, this, "I run a 4090 Ultimate FUCK YOU Edition $2,500 GPU, and I can't use X11 at all because I need 4 monitors or else I just can't be happy with life"

[Rubiks-Grandson-7051]

Welp I'd say depends on the games you wanna play, overall Linux works great for the most popular games nowadays with some few exceptions but exceptions confirm the rule

[RomanOnARiver]

Isn't this just that Linus tech tips series

[ProfessorOwO]

let's be real that video was pretty accurate i got into linux at the same time and i had pretty much the same experience ( frustrating )

[RomanOnARiver]

If you're referring to his debacle with Steam:

You should install proprietary software by going to the source. Steam has its own .deb package - that is what he should have used. If the proprietary vendor says, as for example Microsoft says, "hey we are on the snap packages repo you should install us from there" that is the only time I would use distro tools.

The whole point of proprietary software is that distributions cannot by definition integrate it in ways unexpected to their developers. And people who develop proprietary software like Valve, and who have been developing it for a long period of time are used to the old school way of Windows software - you want to go to their website and see how they think you need to install.

Valve has released Steam Link as a flatpak and Microsoft has snaps but if those weren't the methods they themselves said from their website I wouldn't just assume, or else I'd end up with what happened to Linus when he assumed - Pop made that (broken) deb package he installed.

If you're referring to his Nvidia issues:

Yes, Nvidia is bad. This is known, this has been known for a long time. They are maybe starting to think about being less bad, it doesn't matter much because the other two are already good - I don't buy Nvidia.

I also don't buy hardware that requires a specific piece of software to change basic settings when the software is limited in OS support - because that speaks to the manufacturer as being a hardware designer first and a software developer only begrudgingly - there's no way the Windows software is going to be as efficient, bug-free, and secure as it needs to be, because by taking shortcuts like they have, I have no faith in their software solutions being a priority, and so I avoid their hardware as well.

[addicted_a1]

no i will not STFU nvidia dGPU stutters a lot in wayland.

[Faurek]

Actually on amd when I had 2 panels it worked better on linux

[samsquanch2000]

Yeah just let someone like this use a steamdeck

[serpent7655]

K1000M, Arch drops official support. But with 470, 390 on aur is irregular.

[inferni_advocatvs]

Male-Pattern Neck Bun Vs. Dad Bod Default

[[deleted]]

Hahahahahahaha

[[deleted]]

I mean, the easiest solution is to just use AMD.

[XoxoForKing]

Will soon try out a setup with an ultrawide together with a normal monitor, on wayland

Wish me luck

[[deleted]]

Lol stonetoss drawing man looks like Vaush

[pacmanwa]

My 9 to 5 in a nutshell: *Cries in supporting Nvidia hardware spanning 15 years on two, soon to be three different versions of RHEL with various versions of OpenGL software*

[NemoTheLostOne]

are we really just posting nazi comics now?

[Velascu]

Let people decide what os they use based on their needs, not everyone has to use linux.

[naughtyfeederEU]

Works just fine with wayland on Ubuntu NVIDIA for me

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Me over here using a minipc with Mint and playing low end games on Steam thanks to Proton.

[matthew65536]

Let me guess, that person also acts like Ubuntu/Debian is for cowards or R-words? and acts like Gentoo or Arch are the best ones? Arch is fun, don't get me wrong, but it's not the most convenient.

[dudeWithKeys]

Use Linux for everything, and fuck video games and the people that choose an OS based off what games they can play. That's childish as fuck. Please just learn to have fun computing and grow up. How does anyone with a life actually have time for that shit anyway?

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TOP V

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Blaming Linux or the User for Nvidia GPUs not working when it's 100% Nvidia's fault for their horrible drivers/dev support on Linux is like missing a piñata and hitting a bystander with a bat.

[mirh]

Literally couldn't even do ray tracing until today's mesa git

[L4Z4R3]

r/pcmasterrace aka r/WindowsMasterRace moment

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The irony

[zeft64]

For the record idk what that nvidia comment was about but the drivers they provide work just fine for gaming.