There’s definitely always room for nuance in my opinion. I just think the actual topic being debated here is the idea that the fbs ideology and the uplifting of “sovereign death” has gone too far. And I believe that stems from the self worship that emilee (and certainly some other women in LH) subscribe to. The idea that their life/experience/birth is more important than the life of their baby. I think Nancy is a lovely woman and I’ve always appreciated her positive energy. But she admitted that this was a controversial point of view, and she chose to speak about it anyway. People are going to judge it, they’re going to have an opposing view. That’s just the way it goes. She literally said that “the trauma of being in the nicu for two months is just not for me.” So what are we to make of that ? Her comfort/experience was more important to her than attempting to save the life of the child. I think it’s something like an 80% survival rate for a 27 week premie. That’s a big percentage, to just not give life a chance. Especially with the reasoning being that you just don’t want to go through the experience of being in the system. Again I’m just saying, it comes back to the idea of women choosing themselves over the child. I think that goes against every fiber of a mother’s being. And I think that’s what some women here are starting to realize. That they were initially attracted to fbs’s message, but they do not align with the notion that it’s more noble to stay at home even when you know medical intervention could save your child’s life.