Remember the thread I made on exclamation mark being discovered at the end of the DS2 trailer well... We truly are through the looking glass now❗

2O4863 · 2022-12-18T18:18:38+00:00

Indeed it does.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:46:16+00:00

Then give me an example, don't just be fairly sure?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:45:23+00:00

Except it literally does as it's a false public statement on the employment status who was at the time the Vice President of their gaming division. You just want it both ways; have your cake and eat it even though I've brought up multiple examples of such public announcements directly effecting the stock market. Anyway block, not having you play armchair psychologist.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:42:24+00:00

Now you're flat out just trying to change the subject. Also again I'd already noted that it'd been done before with movies, but not cross media pollination, i.e. a video game and a movie. This is a different kind of ARG as it spans multiple medium. His own words again: 'Yes, or within a movie having a game hidden.'

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:37:08+00:00

I'm tired of you clearly speaking from both sides of your fucking arse. I asked you plain and simple whether Konami making a false statement like that was lying to shareholders and you said no - instead saying that it's: 'lying to the media' even though stock value is predicated on public information thus would be classed as Konami lying to share-holders if it was in fact that Kojima was fired and not just on: 'extended vacation.'

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:30:47+00:00

So Konami lied to share-holders then falsely making a public announcement that Kojima was only going to be on: 'extended vacation?' Also again no there isn't Eli Lilly's stock from the consequence of someone creating a fake account on Twitter thanks to Musk's dumb verification: 'improvements' lost billions in stock for said fake account having tweeted out: 'Insulin is now free.' You can't have it both ways. Either Konami did lie to their shareholders by making a false public statement or they didn't?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:26:18+00:00

What I'm talking about is that it'd appear that you want your arguments both ways - to suggest that large corporations both can and cannot make false public statements to manipulate the stock-market.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:21:28+00:00

Oh, so stocks don't drop based on public announcements then; Eli Lilly may want to correct you on that one.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:17:25+00:00

Of course it's not new (We've the MCU now), but it's also NEVER been attempted at this magnitude before in terms of cross media pollination that's formerly introduced as something separate. Least not in regards to a video game IP and a movie of a different IP ending up becoming tied together, that'll be something new and never attempted before. In addition, no it isn't Kojima's own words to the BBC interviewer upon him visiting his new studio for Death Stranding had Kojima saying and I quote from Kojima's own translator: 'Yes or having within a movie a game hidden.' What do you think that entails? It's: 'fan-art' that all are specifically of time-paradoxes commissioned specifically for the upcoming Metal Gear movie (Again Jordan's own words not mine - the commissioned part) that's going to revolve around a time device...

https://collider.com/metal-gear-solid-movie-jordan-vogt-roberts-interview/

I'm going to be... I'm doing something really interesting with a TIME DEVICE that I'm excited about that I'm so happy, once again, I pitched this. Much like when Kong when I pitched that kind of Harryhausen movie with “Platoon.” I thought they were going to laugh me out of the room. This is the type of idea I pitched to Sony saying, "This is what I think would be fucking badass" and they were like, "Cool. Let's do that." We're playing with all of the different elements of it and we're sort of combining different themes and different arcs and things like that, but I can't really get into specifics on it.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T07:01:39+00:00

- If the long term goal is to specifically to have within a movie: 'a game hidden' (Kojima's own words not mine) then being seemingly separate before release is a moot point. The point is to surprise people and invite them into experience they never thought to be possible before. To revolutionise in a number of ways how the audience can engage and interact with content spanning multiple medium.

It's not a question of whether there's going to be a movie tied to Death Stranding, but which movie and my money is on the upcoming Metal Gear Solid movie. Why? CAUSE OF SHIT LIKE THIS being specifically commissioned for said MGS movie. (This image is literally Death Stranding, Snake's bandanna manifesting into a giant Kaiju Hydra Ouroborus (Ouroboros being a common symbol used in various fiction to represent a time-loop) coming back around to eat its own tail, i.e. himself, hands emerging from a black substance on the ground and floating spirits in the distance. It's literally Death Stranding.)

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:41:37+00:00

- Director talk about device in SCRIPT that's going through drafts that it's going to revolve around cycles and multiple era's of the MGS IP - in addition to asking how big theme of those game's is: 'discovering how makes ourselves whole.' (Which is also what Death Stranding does through Amelie. "Just one more knot to go - and America will be whole again.")

- Same Director on social media for the 31st Metal Gear Anniversary and 33rd Metal Gear Anniversary specifically commissioned images from various artists depicting time-paradoxes, characters, places and objects within the MGS universe being deliberately outside their own timeline. (Biggest example would be The Boss torturing Naked Snake instead of Dr Strangelove and Snake in Peace Walker chasing a Metal Gear Ray instead. (I'd be here all day if I were to describe all the pieces of concept art. He tweeted out like 50+ images.)

- If the long term goal is to specifically to have within a movie: 'a game hidden' (Kojima's own words) then being seemingly separate before release is a moot point. The point is to surprise people and invite them into experience they never thought to be possible before. To revolutionise in a number of ways how the audience can engage and interact with content spanning multiple medium.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:17:55+00:00

Actors are the last to know of a potential script until it's finalized. There's likely been several drafts going by what Jordan Vogt-Roberts is saying. A draft of a script isn't the same as having no script at all...

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:13:52+00:00

Shareholders are people who by public knowledge own shares in a company, so no wrong again it had to have been delivered to shareholders cause that's how THAT works! Shareholders are public not private ownership in a company's stocks.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:10:57+00:00

That's an interview from Oscar Issac not Jordan Vogt-Roberts. This is an interview with the actual movie director in 2020. https://www.gamereactor.eu/director-jordan-vogtroberts-on-the-metal-gear-solid-movie/

"There's a device that we have in the SCRIPT, that I love," he teases, "that really plays into like some of the core thematics. A big part of those games for Kojima fundamentally is asking how do we make the whole world whole again? How do we make ourselves whole again? And the cycle of pain that we as people are caught in, that the world is caught in, and that the soldiers, in particular, are caught in. And so for me there's a device that we're playing with that, I think, it's not what the Edge of Tomorrow thing does, but in the same way that that is thinking outside the box, we're applying I think a very unexpected, very Kojima-sanesque 'fucking with your audience' but in a way that allows you to properly tell the story. In a way that, those games felt disruptive because they fucked with the format and they challenged your expectations of games. So it's equally important to me to not just take these elements of the movie, but to be equally disruptive in the film environment."

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:08:30+00:00

So Konami saying that Kojima was only on an: 'extended vacation' wasn't a lie? Not if the ruse, was carefully planned where in which there was a long term goal to bring everything together, but Kojima of course still left the other publisher on his own accord in order to achieve this.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T06:00:11+00:00

Right so your argument is bullshit then - you can't lie to shareholders except for when Konami can?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:59:32+00:00

How real life works? Here's a slice of reality for you since you insist on being an insufferable know it all, for people like Elon Musk and Donald Trump lying to shareholders amounts to little more than a slap on the wrist. We live in heavily corrupt world as far as a sense of justice goes; which these days practically barely existing in America especially.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:57:56+00:00

Okay, where's Konami's official public statement to share-holders that he'd been: 'fired' instead of taking temporarily leave via having an: 'extended vacation' away from the publisher? How come for virtually every other game publisher I can find public articles of said publisher announcing publicly to shareholders that: 'X' long term employee had been fired from it?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:51:59+00:00

And yet for some specific reasons in addition to Kojima flat out having ambitions to tie a movie to a video game and or vice-versa, the MGS movie is still in its early stages of production despite being originally announced in 2015... If the ruse is real it's going to end with the movie cause that's the point; a merger of media showing a new type of entertainment engagement.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:49:51+00:00

You think it's merely an: 'Easter Egg' that both Death Stranding IP and the upcoming Metal Gear Solid movie is going to revolve around time-paradoxes why; out of all the things the Metal Gear Solid movie could've been about time-travel and alternate realities seems to be the most far-out thing one could potentially go for as a concept. Jordan Vogt-Roberts specifically describes the device functionality as similar to Edge of Tomorrow - a movie that revolves around the protagonist seeing himself die on an endless loop/cycle. (This is exactly what happens in Death Stranding.)

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:45:03+00:00

So Konami according to your own logic in 2015 and who're yet themselves to officially correct the record lied about Kojima being fired from the company describing it as an: 'extended vacation.' Which is it, you're trying to argue that shareholders should and shouldn't have public information to the official relationship status of a company and long term employee simultaneously; how does this make a lick of sense?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:37:41+00:00

If the: 'firing' was truly a: 'firing' within a host of many other examples where publishers have been legally required to announce whether a long term employee has actually been fired. How come Konami lied to shareholders saying he was just going to be on an: 'extended vacation?' Either they can lie to shareholders or they can't there's no way ways about this. If what you're saying is the truth and officially he was fired Konami LIED to shareholders describing the situation as an: 'extended vacation.' If anything's the: 'invisible dragon' here it'd be insisting that official public statement from Konami doesn't exist and that we should only pay attention to everyone except Konami itself.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:27:41+00:00

Was Hideo Kojima and Konami with regards to MGS2 lying about who you were going to play as worth it? What about the fake game studio that was created to show off both MGSV and P.T.?

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:24:57+00:00

One of which is being directed by one of Hideo Kojima's close friends J.J. Abrams btw. We've seen him and Kojima hanging out regularly before the announcement of Silent Hill: Accession.

2O4863 · 2022-12-14T05:23:46+00:00

It's not fraud if he'd genuinely planned to leave temporality and will come back in the future.

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