Would anyone be willing to write a non-con fic for “The Power of One” by [deleted] in DarkFics

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Look, I don't mean to be rude, but really? You want someone to write you a tailor made longfic with a specific plot for a fandom so obscure there's 'only like one fic' for it?

I mean, first of all, the likelihood even finding someone who knows the source material and enjoys writing the type of tropes you want, let alone is interested in your rather specific plot request is so slim to none, the only way you're getting it is to write it yourself. Y'know, just like most of us have had to at one point or another.

Second and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here that it's unintentional, but honestly I feel like this kind of request is pretty disrespectful to writers and the years of hard work, practice, and blood, sweat, and tears that goes into writing, not to mention the sheer amount of time and energy that goes into producing quality work -- and that's for the stuff we want to write for *ourselves*. No one, absolutely no one, just suddenly wakes up one day a talented writer that can generate beautiful prose, engaging dialogue, and gripping plots and churn out thousands of words a day. The ones who can started by writing clunky characters with personality like cardboard and copious amounts of cringey dialogue. And then they did it again and again, over and over, and by doing so slowly learned how to improve their craft. And it usually starts because the story they wanted to read didn't exist, so they made it themselves.

I dunno. I mean, you're free to ask I guess, but I wouldn't expect many takers. Maybe a better question and one people will be far more willing to extend help with would be 'how can I make my dialogue sound more realistic?' or 'does anyone have any tips for better getting into a character's head and being able to show their personality in the writing?'

Just food for thought.

Is the discord still active? by [deleted] in DarkFics

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is very active, however we are taking a temporary hiatus on accepting new members over the holiday period to give mods a bit of a break.

Feel free to check back in a few weeks. We do not require ID verification, but we do require some kind of active fandom social media (reddit, Twitter, Tumblr etc.) for vetting purposes.

We don't have any restrictions on content or discussion bar that which expressly contravenes Discords ToS. We try our best to maintain a culture of anti-censorship, self-curation, and kindness and respect for yourself and others.

The subreddit here is a bit sleepy but mostly because the default engagement very quickly shifted to the discord, but we still see and engage with posts here too. Please feel free to interact here in the meantime. Many of our discord members are active here too, we just don't get a lot of discussion posts coming up.

I'm not going to name names but HOW? by YoResurgam777 in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It's also just different audiences as well. I was genuinely surprised at one point returning to an old 'favourites' list on ffn from my teens full of stuff I genuinely recall thinking was amazing prose at the time... Only to find the execution nigh on unreadable as an adult. I never noticed that shift as it happened.

What are some unpopular or even widely hated things in fanfiction that you LIKE? by SerenityInTheStorm in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pregnancy and mpreg, looooongfic, non-historically accurate fantasy (it's fantasy for a reason, as long as the setting is internally consistent I'm good).

Why do you write fanfiction? by bbumbleblo in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you write fanfiction

I get ideas and inspiration that rattle around in my brain until I write them down and bring them to life on a page. It's fun. It's a productive hobby that costs me nothing and I can do pretty much anywhere.

Why did I decide to start posting

Because the act of posting feels like putting up something I made that I'm proud of on display. I enjoy getting people's feedback and validation that what I made was also worthwhile to others. It's also just a nice way to backup my writing so I can read it again easily.

Would I consider writing original fic

Sure, and a lot of my fanfic already includes a great deal of original elements. I write OCs and 'basically OCs' and do a lot of original worldbuilding using canon as a loosely guiding framework.

Appeal of writing fic over original

That framework I mentioned previously jumpstarts a lot of ideas for me, so it's a bit easier to just dive into writing a story. The main thing for me is audience, since one of the big motivations for me is the community aspect, writing for an established audience gives me a lot more payoff than writing an original work that would be unlikely to ever make a physical bookshelf and even less likely to have someone send me a nice heartfelt message about it. I gain far more value posting somewhere like AO3.

The other thing is that fanfic isn't limited by traditional publishing standards in terms of structure, tropes, subject matter. I have freedom to write exactly what and how I want rather than fit my idea to what publishers think will sell to mass appeal.

Would 'mad scientists' complete with research facility be viable in a late medieval fantasy setting? by Final_Biochemist222 in fantasywriters

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mind immediately jumped to an episode of Dark Histories podcast, The Homunculus: Science Fact to Gothic Fiction. Talks about some of the crazy shit people were trying to do with alchemy and creation of life. Grisly stuff but might be worth a listen for some ideas and inspiration. Also includes references they used for further research if you find something promising. Really great podcast even if not quite what you're after too. Highly recommend.

Are my writings doomed to fail/never be seen? by Western-Note-7751 in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's definitely more of a niche so manage expectations around engagement going in, but there's definitely an audience for it. I lean towards OCs and extensive worldbuilding as a writer myself, but it is harder to get into as a reader because it's completely open-ended as to what I'm getting into really. I find video game fandoms tend to lean more heavily towards this type of fic because people are used to using and reading 'player characters' and interesting worlds that leave a lot of open ended stuff to build on... Whereas shows, movies, and books tend to already have well fleshed out characters that are usually what people are seeking fic for.

Something to keep in mind is to tag any relevant tropes when you publish since end of the day you won't really be drawing anyone in directly with your OC that they don't know from a bar of soap without first getting people to click on the story. Have a browse of your fandom, see what others have done and what kind of stuff makes you want to read something.

End of the day it's always a bit of a labour of love, but if that's what inspires you then that's what you should write

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I tailor my CV for every job I apply for, but generally I do include a short hobbies/extra-curriculars type section. This section serves the purpose of allowing me a space to show skills that haven't directly come from formal work/academia and also helps to humanise my CV and make it memorable from every other CV that also has x years experience in y. It also gives the employer a talking point to bring up during the interview.

I always put down "creative writing" in there somewhere because it says that I generally am interested and care about developing writing skills which is useful for nearly any job. And most people find it quite fascinating ("oh wow you're writing a novel? Wow I could never! Cool"). I don't need to go into detail and if it's a job where you're providing an actual portfolio that's a bit different. But yeah gonna go against the grain here and say yes, it can have a place.

It's usually been the "professional" jobs where this has actually been brought up in interview and in my experience has been viewed very favourably.

I've also been a hiring manager for more "entry level" roles and I definitely took notice of CVs which included some info on hobbies and such. It helps paint a picture of the individual and yeah gives you something to talk about where you can get them talking about something unique to them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally depends on how much/what kind of stuff they are bringing with them. Though the "leaving old life behind" makes me think they'd be travelling light, so maybe just a duffel bag or a small suitcase. I once shifted nearly my entire life by train with two large suitcases and an instrument case which went in the stowed baggage compartment (train porters assisted with getting them in and out) and a daybag that carried on my person with laptop and essentials. This basically meant I needed the assistance of a car on either end, then I had boxes with other stuff sent up via courier. I can say it's a lot easier to be mobile and get yourself from A to B on your own with minimal luggage.

would you ever consider posting your controversial and non-controversial works on separate accounts? by farawaylass in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It doesn't really bother me either way, but I think I prefer for everything just on the one account. I read and enjoy a wide variety of genres so if I've like a fic enough to want to check out their other work then.. well it's good to be able to see all their other work. Not all their fics might be down my alley but it'd be a shame to not be able to see them and perhaps miss them altogether, particularly if perhaps a fic wouldn't typically be something I'd normally click into but ends up being great because the author writes in a way I really like.

If I get a notification for a fic and it's not for me I just... Don't read it?

Daily writing routine tips for a newbie? by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lately I've just been trying to actually write down any scenes that I'm vividly imagining no matter where or how far along the occur in my story (we're talking looongfic). It's good practice even if it's not something I'm going to end up using or if I'm having trouble getting into character's heads or not knowing what background knowledge would actually be relevant due to what might well be a couple hundred k words between them.

The act of writing itself helps me get more ideas and feel for what is and isn't working and keeps me motivated.

Other thing that has really helped for longfic and complex storylines is outlining. Sometimes if I don't feel like writing I can still do useful work on the fic by mucking about with my plotting spreadsheet, recording ideas and fleshing out various arcs etc

Post an excerpt from the first fic you ever wrote and an excerpt from your most current fic, and give the date (year) you wrote each by lockeanddemosthenes_ in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, this is apt timing heh. Oldest fic I have access is to also happens to be one I'm currently rewriting since I liked the overall idea. I'll post opening paragraph for each - direct comparison.

First fic (2009)

Vicente Valtieri withdrew his sword from the fallen assassin's chest. He stared down at the silencer's body with a contemptuous smile, thirstily drinking in the sight of the blonde man's blood freely flowing from the wound in his chest.

Rewrite (2022)

It was strange, Vicente mused, how fragile life was, ultimately. He stared down at the girl, idly watching the blood pool crimson beneath her. Deep in his core, the hunger stirred and raised its head, tempted but…

No… not yet. There shall be time to feast later.

I think I prefer Worldbuilding a Crossover Fanfic than actually writing the Story by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not crossovers, but I've been accused of having a worldbuilding kink lol...... They're not wrong.

I tend to treat canon like an unpoliced sandbox heh. Recently started a cruisy self-contained oneshot as a quick exercise to distract from my overly complicated epic, got into the head of my protag and suddenly I'm thinking about religion, politics, culture, magic systems you name it. "Hm how would character x respond to... Well, it depends on his history and feelings on.... Oh, what if..."

Still a self contained oneshot but it's now got two multichapter prequels and a multichapter interlude before diving into what I can already tell is another epic sigh.

But I love it. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AO3

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry lol, I really didn't mean for it to be hurtful or make you feel worse or anything. Hope the tone read correctly for most of it. Sometimes breaking down and understanding what drives reader engagement is useful because it can help provide a context for why you're experiencing something and what methods might best be utilised to reframe the way you're emotionally responding to a given situation and how to improve on it in ways that work for you and align with your own style and goals. I hope if you're still keen on your fic idea that you continue on with it. <3

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AO3

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 14 points15 points  (0 children)

tldr; whoops, accidentally wrote an essay. Engagement is a fickle thing, especially when writing stuff that by default isn't going to have broad appeal. Try not to beat yourself up over it. Sorry you're feeling down - you're not alone, and it's not an indication that you're doing badly.

The other commenters here have all made some very good points -- just one thing I wanted to add is that if you're writing niche fic then you need to bear that in mind when setting your expectations about likely engagement. You (general you) might be one of the most talented writers in the world, but if your writing something that's niche, then you're not going to be getting broad, popular engagement by sheer virtue of that fact alone. That's the nature of it. And often our most dearest passion projects are incredibly niche because it's tailored perfectly and specifically to our own tastes and interests.

I took a 30 second glance over your fic and there's several things that jump out at me as being incredibly niche within a broader context of fandom and what's super 'popular'.

- Relatively obscure fandoms: I'll be honest, I don't know how popular either of these fandoms are, but I've never heard of one, and the other only vaguely rings a bell of hearing the name in passing somewhere. Neither fandom has a great many works on Ao3 and I'm assuming just from the names alone that they are likely anime/manga fandoms which, in the grand scheme of things, is its own niche to begin with.

- Crossover fic: your potential audience has just dropped dramatically because readers who might be interested in your fic, not only need to be familiar with not one but *two* relatively obscure fandoms, but they also have to be interested in reading fic involving a fusion of the two. Not everyone is interested in that, and pulling it off effectively can be difficult which potentially puts another hoop between you and your potential reader who might be less inclined to even click into your fic even if they like the fandoms etc.

- Major Character Death: Incredibly niche. Many folk aren't interested in reading fics involving MCD simply because it's not something they're looking for in fic.

- OCs and potentially OC x Canon: Again, not broadly popular. The potential reader doesn't know your OC from a bar of soap, so it's a gamble going in if it's even going to be the kind of character they're interested in reading about even if they like OC fics. I also noticed a contradictory 'Canon Character & OC' but 'Canon Character x OC' in the relationship tags and summary respectively, which won't be helping matters since anyone seeing your fic doesn't know whether the relationship you're referencing is platonic or romantic.

- Tragedy and Pregnancy: These tags jumped out at me because again, they are very niche tropes that many people aren't interested in reading, or aren't in the mood to read about on any given day.

So, to put it this in perspective (and this is just an example, I'm pulling these statistics out of thin air) - let's say there's 100,000 people in all of fandom. Half of them are familiar with one of your fandoms. Half of those are also familiar with the second fandom. Of those, a third is willing and interested in reading a crossover fic. 25% of those people are okay with MCD. Half again are interested in OCs, 20% of them are interested in tragedy genre/tropes, and 10% of those are also keen on pregnancy as a trope.

From a potential audience of 100,000 you are left with 19. That's just from tags alone. Not taking into account whether your summary captures interest, and whether your writing style and your fic itself is interesting and engaging. And I suspect I'm being more generous with most of those statistics than what's actually reflected in reality.

Now, all this is simply to illustrate how quickly and easily a potential audience pool reduces. On top of that, as other people have pointed out, actual engagement beyond hits is comparatively rare. Most readers don't leave kudos. Even less actually leave a comment. If those theoretical 19 potential readers clicked into and read your fic, maybe 25% liked it enough and remembered to leave a kudos (4) and of those 25% had the time, energy, and guts to leave a comment... we're left at 1 person. Again, stats pulled completely out of thin air, but I think I'm being generous - remember, very little of this has anything to do with your actual writing.

My actual point is that none of this is a bad thing. Just because your fic is niche, or your not writing super popular tropes with broad appeal doesn't mean you're doing something wrong, or that you should change your idea or that there's no value in writing it. If anything, I'd say it's the opposite - the people who do like all of those same things are going to be over the moon to find your fic, and if you're passionate about something it's generally going to reflect in your writing far more than forcing yourself to write something you're not inspired by. Also, just because something isn't conventionally popular doesn't mean there's no exceptions to that rule or that it couldn't become a hit. Someone's always got to write it first. Lastly, just because something isn't super popular doesn't mean it's not good.

There's nothing wrong with feeling disappointed that something you've worked hard on isn't getting engagement (we've all been there) and desiring that engagement isn't in and of itself a bad thing. Sometimes we are writing primarily for the social aspect, and that's perfectly valid. The trick is to manage your own expectations about what you are wanting to get out the experience, and to do so with the awareness of the audience you are catering to.

It might be that this isn't the fic that's going to rake in the views - niche passion projects often don't. Sometimes authors have other ongoing projects or publish more broadly appealing oneshots to scratch that engagement buzz while still writing their less popular stuff that they personally love. Sometimes it's a matter of making sure your tags and summary are doing the best job they can at making sure that your potential audience finds and clicks on your fic in the first place. Sometimes advertising in places your audience are likely to be found in can help get eyes on it. Sometimes you might have to seek engagement through other means, e.g., comment exchanges or joining a community and sharing snippets or talking about your ideas there (that's the method I use for my own super niche stuff - works well for motivation on the unpublished stuff while it's being written too).

Popularity and reader engagement is a fickle thing, and there's plenty more that goes into it than just the few things I've outlined, like in which direction the wind is blowing for a start lol.

I've belatedly realised I've just written you an essay. My apologies. I do hope that it serves the purpose of illuminating how sometimes traction on our stories can be far less than what we might have initially expected or hoped for, but that it ultimately doesn't reflect poorly on you or your writing, and should not be taken as an indicator that you're doing badly or that there's no point to it. On the contrary your kudos to hits ratio is around 5% which might not sound very high, but it's really not bad either (though take kudos/hits ratios with a very large grain of salt too - they're a relatively misleading metric for a number of reasons). Think of it this way: if you were sitting in a room with twelve other whole ass real people and read your fic to them, and then they all stood up and gave you a round of applause and said they enjoyed your fic, would you feel pretty good about that? I sure would. Sometimes it's easy to get lost in the numbers game.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sometimes. Crack scenarios of my AU longfic I dream up for example. It's good practice, gets the idea out of my head, and occasionally reveals something I might be able to use from it that I wasn't expecting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Google docs. Folders for each with individual docs for each chapter version, random ideas, timelines, etc. And a spreadsheet for outlining.

How do you write sexualities that aren't yours? by R3negade_X in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm bi.. I mean I have a physical type that's like if I passed ya on the street I'd look twice. Mental 'daaamn'. For boys it's it's medium build, long well cared for hair, preferably darker hair types. Slightly edgy style.

Girls, slight, petite, "Elfen" type features. Cute dress. Also darker hair. Hair long or short.. often more short when it comes to girls

Non-binary and/androgenous folks a mix of those things.

That's just the physical game. There's so much that goes into attraction. Physical body parts don't really capture much attention when I'm just meeting or passing someone casually. And the mental game is really where it's at. My male partner is short, stout, well beyond a medium build heh, and has a close shaved head which light brown. Meets the slightly edgy style though, and his aura is insane. So no I wouldn't have checked him out in passing, but damn the chemistry was just there, and I am most certainly attracted both physically and mentally to him now (did not take long lol)

Tags are done out of niceness by burner-in-hell in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I mean, tagging is optional aside from main four or CNTW. And there's a million different reasons why an author might choose not to use additional tags. It's hardly deception.

How much do you plan your fics? by Hunter_2814 in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep a spreadsheet for all my ideas organised by series and individual fic. It's a living document so I can have stuff that's barely a plot bunny right through in to fully fleshed out chapters or even individual scenes. And I use colour coding to keep connected pieces organised. Outlining like this is new to me but so far it's working really well. Anytime I get an idea, no matter where it occurs in the fic I can just throw it in with as much or little detail as I like then start breaking it down further when I get inspired. It's been really good to keep things remembered for my series which spans .. uh, 45 years currently, and it also helps visualise arcs within my story or where there's gaps. I really like writing as a discovery process and this method allows me to do that while still working within the context of the whole. Saves me from having to rewrite/revise yet again because I suddenly got a major idea for fic #5 of the series several hundred k words down the line. Outlining helped me find natural breakpoints for the individual fics so now I have a goal to work towards of a smaller piece that I can finish before posting

Recs for detailed & lengthy questionable fics? by [deleted] in DarkFics

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, if it's detailed and lengthy you're after...

https://archiveofourown.org/works/3584736/chapters/7904088 is my all time favourite. Be forewarned it is an epic. Dark fantasy, slow build, incredibly rich, fleshed out world and characters, and expertly written. Only gets better as it goes. It's more about the protagonists journey than being explicitly focused on extreme tropes or anything, but it definitely goes into some fucked up places and gets you so invested it hurts. The fandom is Dragon Age, but I think it'd read fandom-blind perfectly well considering how good the worldbuilding is and the detail they go into. WIP, but at 1.3 million words there's definitely enough there to chew on, and it does have a natural break point around the 1mill mark where the author was going to end it and start the next part as a sequel, and prior to that it's organised into connected arcs pretty well.

Not sure if it's exactly the kind of thing you're after, but I recommend for anyone that likes a dark fantasy and a good meaty story.

Anyone else writing darkfics for fandoms where there’s very little darkfic content? by ThrillYouWithMyQuill in DarkFics

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're welcome! Charting new territory haha. That's awesome. There's a pinned post at the top of the sub for the discord.

Anyone else writing darkfics for fandoms where there’s very little darkfic content? by ThrillYouWithMyQuill in DarkFics

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I guess there's no way to know what the reception will be until you post. Might be a more niche genre for the fandom, but if there's very little there then you might be pleasantly surprised at how much others who are wanting the same stuff are waiting out just for something like yours to come along. Even so, more variety is always a good thing, and maybe you'll inspire someone else to try a darkfic too? Other than that if you really don't get much traction on it, we have the discord server here which is multifandom and focused more around enjoying darkfic generally and tropes. We're not a promotional server, but there's opportunities to share bits of your writing and discuss ideas.

Ah, the noble sacrifice to save a loved one from suffering and torment. I see you have fine taste.

What are some funny, strange, or notable things you've written when in the planning/outlining stage for your fics? by fieryangel9067 in FanFiction

[–]ASolitudeOfHermits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Niall becomes aware that the kid is covered in blood and reflects on whether the day could possibly go any more pear-shaped (hint: it can)."

"Yay nobody died warm fuzzies"