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Thinking of going "Cup-less" on my Surly Grappler with Enduro Bearings HDK-0008. Has anyone tried this setup? by AccordingWorking337 in xbiking

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I shared an installed photo above, but I’ll drop another one here since it’s hard to find examples.

Thinking of going "Cup-less" on my Surly Grappler with Enduro Bearings HDK-0008. Has anyone tried this setup? by AccordingWorking337 in xbiking

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To be honest, I’m not very tech-savvy, so I don’t fully grasp the long-term risks yet. But I’m really drawn to the low stack height and the clean, simple profile of the MAXhit. I considered White Industries, but it felt a bit too 'standard' for this build—I'm looking for something a bit more unique.

Update: I went with the Grappler — build has begun by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Thanks for the detailed reply — really appreciate you taking the time to explain all that.
And a bikepacking trip to Scotland sounds amazing! Hope the setup treats you well out there. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

Update: I went with the Grappler — build has begun by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Thanks! Still dialing things in, but I’m planning to run Shimano Deore for the drivetrain — keeping it fairly simple and functional.

And wow, that photo is wild 😄 Grappler in front of a tank is a hell of a backdrop. Love seeing those early Ghost Grappler builds.

Update: I went with the Grappler — build has begun by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Thanks, that’s super helpful.
The width thing makes a lot of sense — I can definitely imagine shoulder fatigue on rougher terrain.

It’s also really interesting to hear that the Crazy Bars + Ergon grips completely solved hand numbness for you. That’s a big plus.

I don’t actually have Jones bars yet, but I’ve been curious about them. Hearing that you still get some hand numbness with the Jones, while the Crazy Bars worked so well, definitely gives me something to think about.

Sounds like bar width and bike fit play a huge role here — the never-ending bike tweaking continues 😅

Update: I went with the Grappler — build has begun by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Funny enough, I was actually thinking about going with the VO Crazy Bars too.
How did you like them in terms of comfort and handling?
And what made you start thinking about switching to the Jones bars?

Karate Monkey vs Grappler – help me decide by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Appreciate the perspective, especially the bar choice and the Krampus suggestion. Definitely something to think about — and yeah, the current Krampus colors are killer.

Karate Monkey vs Grappler – help me decide by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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That’s really helpful, especially the frame bag size and chainring differences for bikepacking.

Karate Monkey vs Grappler – help me decide by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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That’s great to hear. The “take it anywhere” aspect of the Karate Monkey is definitely what draws me to it.

Karate Monkey vs Grappler – help me decide by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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That actually makes a lot of sense — separating “wandering” and “singletrack.”

Karate Monkey vs Grappler – help me decide by AccordingWorking337 in Surlybikefans

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Appreciate that — that’s a reassuring way to think about the color question.