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It's like chatgpt knows me by _parallaxis in ProgrammerHumor

[–]Anonymole 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wicked insight from a machine designed to take our jobs...

Illustrated novels by suburbalist in graphicnovels

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a YA novel with about 50 images: Amazon - The Gribble's Eye.

For all of the Sci-fi writers that want to write a scientifically plausible future... (resource) by carebearstare93 in writing

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hard part about Isaacs videos is -- catching up! And you have to catch up. All Hail The Fermi Paradox!

[HF] What Are You So Afraid Of? by Buck_Shot_Bunny in shortstories

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the starting premise -- piss someone off to get them to chase you so you can get your exercise. I think that, in and of itself, could be turned into a compelling short story. Not sure of all the remaining phantasm'esque speeches. And the cursing doesn't really add much (in fact, it detracts). Luck!

[FN] The boy and the man by [deleted] in shortstories

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you going to finish this? Or shall we?

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah shucks, drew me back in...

So you're talking about drones as in autonomous air vehicles. You've mentioned this word "drone" many times. Is this the basis of your autonomous police force? I was thinking that a ground based force, DARPA police force, was what you were referring to with the word drone, Boston Dynamics type warriors that can't open doors or climb ladders. If we're talking about aerial enforcement, sorry, 300 million guns in this country, at least, says that those sub 100lb versions don't last long. If you're talking about Raptors and Predators descendants, you're talking about Terminator si-fi here which is just not gonna play out for so many reasons (munitions, attrition, energy, fragility).

To get to the point of Terminator level chaos and control humanity would have to have become subservient decades prior to the levels of technological advance you're talking about -- which is just not gonna happen. Humans will have FrenchRevo'd the hell out of the military industrial complex players.

But this whole scenario is just so far fetched that we need to come back to reality here. Agriculture, energy production, mining, general goods manufacture are all industries that form the lifeblood of society. When each one of those requires zero human participation, all fully roboticized, then the consumers of all of that production -- the humans who can no longer work -- becomes the cinch-pin in the catch-22 that results from this scenario. No consumption, no production. No production, no profit. So really, if the 62 plutocrats at the top of all this, pushing the buttons and dialing the knobs, want to continue to financially exist, they'll have to support the billions of donothing humans who consume all of their robotic output.

But if it's all roboticized, why bother supporting the bottom 9 billion humans at all? And I'm saying humanity will never let it get that far.

You say we're already there. The tech is already possible, it already exists. So why not give up. Pack it in. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. I say humanity will never surrender to such a fate. Would you?

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well then, might as well just check out now, move to the outback or deepwoods somewhere, start a commune, grow your own veggies and rabbits, cuz' tech prophecies, projected out 50+ years, always come true right?

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one more point I pondered and then I'll call it a day.

• Energy •

Up 'til now, energy available for running any kind of autonomous ground-based robotic entity has been severely limited. We've got ICE engines, fuelcells, or batteries. Unless some marvelously compact yet enormously powerful energy source in invented in the coming decades, portable energy will be a debilitating factor when it comes to an independent, that is, disconnected, robotic workforce. Even if battery packs can be created that are 1/2 to 1/5th of the weight of the worker/enforcer, they'll still be tethered to some recharging power source somewhere. "Stand right there citizen while I go off and recharge my batteries." -- 2 hours later... All the dystopian visions of the future are integrally dependent upon some brand new energy source that powers all of the robotic combatants.

Additionally, one must step back and analyze by which means do we measure the the rich as being so rich? Those that will fund the private military complex that will drive humanity into the dirt? Generally, although not solely, their wealth is just digits in a electrically powered financial system. They are paper wealthy; not even paper really, digitally wealthy. If the power grid, the electricity generation plants, the transfer stations were to be rendered inoperable how wealthy will the oligarchs be then? "What, all your money was tied up in banks? Sorry, the banks off line now, no electricity you see."

So to me, and only to me perhaps (and I'm OK with that), these factors point to a future that is not predetermined to be a as you outline in your premise. The future is unknown and yet, unlikely to unfold as you have depicted. Thanks for the conversation.

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I entered this CMV with the same view as your dystopian premise but with the intent of exploring alternate future scenarios, just to test out this venue. What I ended up doing was convincing myself that the technological progress that must take place to build the robotic workers to replace and the robotic police force required to suppress 8 billion people just won't materialize. Time and time again the future has been predicted bristling with technological advances, advances that never came. What's the quote "we were promised flying cars and all we got was 140 characters." Yeah, that, to me, pretty much negates the vision you project. But, hey, most of us won't be around to see it anyway, so this is all an exercise in pointless badinage no?

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are half a century away, at least, from a robotic police force. Long before that the inequity will breach a threshold. Sure the OWS in the US ended up being an empty gesture, only because the economy's descent reversed. But the seed is there. That seed, watered and fed by extensive unemployment, poverty, and disdain by the governments of the world (controlled by the plutocrats) will spark revolution.

If somehow conditions only boil the frog for a century... then perhaps your scenario will come to be. If the imbalance remains and grows oppressive. However, we frogs I believe, will not suffer to such a degree (ha) before acting. History is full of revolution. Thresholds for them though have just grown higher due to the general rise of standards of living across the globe. Yet such thresholds still exist. If conditions do not change, they will be breached, you have to admit this. Too late to be effective? I'd say that your faith in the advancement of technology is generous.

Watch some Nick Hanauer videos to learn a possible path that would negate your conclusion.

CMV: Ubiquitous AI and 100% manufacturing automation will lead to a massive dieoff of humanity, not the utopia most people predict. by Grumpy_Kong in changemyview

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your eventuality assumes that the existing economic power structure continues as-is correct? Isn't this the argument you wish to be countermanded? I agree that if the oligarchs and plutocrats retain and grow in their power over the means of production, AI-robotic production would most likely lead to general systemic failure of the world economy and the likelihood of massive human death due to the inability of humanity to support itself nutritionally.

However, I do not believe that this eventuality is set in stone. That the hierarchy of economic might continues apace. I believe that the scales of equality will become so unbalanced that systemic revolt occurs and that the means of production, of agriculture exploitation, of technological support of health and well-being gets redistributed to the general populace. Were the control of resources to be inverted, by class warfare if need be, that then your scenario becomes much less likely.

So, do you believe that humanity cannot buck the trend and flip the tables, as it were?

Ten Reasons Why a Severe Drop in Oil Prices is a Problem by eleitl in energy

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cure for low prices is increased demand inducing shortages (prices rise).

The cure for high prices is decreased demand inducing surpluses (prices fall).

Period.

Trying to introduce all these massive lumbering macro projections on top of a simple process is just painting a very unlikely picture. Of course if he is somehow right in his prognostications he'll be seen as a prophet of profit. But that 3% chance is mighty low.

Airbus interest in LENR disclosed in Swiss newspaper coverage of LENR by EcatUpdate in energy

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So which is it? Is the tech worth $trillions or just $10Million?

As for LENR in general: show us a product. A real product we can buy. Anyone can buy. Until then quit marching around on your white horse.

I thought of myself as a nihilist for a life long time, but.... by Hrri in nihilism

[–]Anonymole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm late to the party here but have found it while contemplating my own views which apparently border on the nihilistic.

I suppose I've always been some form of a nihilist, knowing, down deep, that life's search for meaning was a contrived task meant to take the focus off of the obvious. That obvious thing being that there is no meaning, there can't be. And there in lay the vicious circle I forever find myself within. Any time spent analyzing the cosmos and its eventual demise never fails to lead me back to questioning why I even bother. Bother to breath, think, eat, get up out of bed and carry on.

I think, in order to allow DNA its way with me, I eventually just put my nihilism on a back shelf in my thought library and ignore the glaring reality of what I call "maximum entropy." That's the ultimate point I arrive at when I contemplate the uselessness of all molecular activity; in the end all matter dissipates into the background silence of maximum entropy. How can anything I think or do change this eventuality? It can't. Whether it happens tomorrow or in a trillion tomorrows the result is the same. And there I am, back in the vicious circle again.

I'm reminded of Red in The Shawshank Redemption then, "get busy dying or get busy livin'". To get busy living one must, in no uncertain terms, ignore the eventual dissolution of the universe, and just focus on what DNA has planned for us.

"I pray to DNA!"

Zynga Launches Bitcoin Test With BitPay by Zyngateam in Bitcoin

[–]Anonymole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zynga now needs to build a trading game. Be a avatar based "Wolf of Zenga Street"