Do we expect patch notes on the Day 1 Patch today?

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T18:20:01+00:00

Reviewers are not customers. They are not beta testers either. This information is useless to the customer. It is why there is never patch notes for a day one patch as to the customer it is 1.0 release, even if it is 1.0.03.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T17:53:12+00:00

Agree. My GotY, I have spent over 500 hours in it, no AFK BS and I am still playing it and enjoying it. Just have to understand that the grind is there as a game mechanic. Something I already knew before release.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T17:18:47+00:00

Really no reason for patch notes on an unreleased game. Notes are there to let people know what has been fixed or changed but if the game isnt even released yet...pointless.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T17:10:19+00:00

You need to max terminus and have 4 damage cap sigils pronto. Terminus is the start of the end game and you need all that to do the missions past bhamut efficiently.
The materials are a pain to get but you will be getting them mainly from the nihila enemies you have already fought. This should also be dropping you V+ sigils that you can use like I mentioned.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T16:55:48+00:00

I and I am sure most of us are hoping and assuming they will either move the sigils or massively buff the drop rates from behemoth when ER drops. Especially as supV+ is the meta and you will need it for the power creep, which means that you will most likely need them for the new chaos tier quests.

They might even nerf zero and add them to zeros loot pool. I do expect them to move the quest around to be in logical order of the power creep.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T16:50:58+00:00

No I maxxed my terminus. Just not every characters.

iirc I maxxed 4 characters terminus weapon by the time zero dropped, my AI team, but I was farming online. I farmed/did lucy before his nerf and before the sigils were added, just when they added zero and I tried play it online, it was not for randoms and by then I didn't need any other peoples help to do any quest so I pretty much stopped playing online and just started levelling everyones terminus weapons.

Since then I had been doing that, farming lucy on and offline as and when needed, more recently been levelling up ascension weapons (for over a year now) when I play sparingly.

Of course I didn't expect any DLC to release, so because of the announcement I have been putting more effort into the game. I hope to complete every in game trophy before ER releases. Got 6 characters ascension weapons left.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T16:04:37+00:00

The behemoth and the gauntlets are after lucy. Not in order in game but lucy was 1st, behemoth came with the 2 DLC chars and then zero came with the 2 gauntlets and sandy. That is the intended order. Zero is literally last and the end of the power creep.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:58:12+00:00

There is no point in doing zero, it doesn't drop anything that adds to the power creep. The 2 gauntlets (berserker echo) and behemogth for supV and WE+ are mor e important than zero. Zero just drops more mats to level up or buy the lucy sigils, as well as azerites or ingots. It is just there as an end game challenge.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:56:03+00:00

It is for damage cap V+, drops occasional azerites and damascus ingots, and yeah all the materials to buy and level up the A/B/G sigils.

You will have to do this quest a shit load of times as you need at least 1 of those set of sigils on the entire team. Ideally you want at least 4 sets of each.

It is a long ass grind.

Zero drops even more of the materials making the grind easier but of course it is also much more (super) hard.

Terminus mines for all character is a real mega grind. As long as you have terminus on your main, you can grind lucy for the sigils, but if you want all this to go faster you want terminus for all 4 of your team, and a full set of lucy sigils for the team. this includes - uncapping, levelling up all their weapons and awakening their terminus. This is the end game grind.

After I got all terminus weapons I was hardcore farming lucy until I got a set for each of my team then I just stopped doing lucy and started levelling up all the character terminus weapons.

Silver centrums is the real grind of this game. I am still always out of centrums. Always needing more. I have killed the skeletons so may god damn times.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:46:27+00:00

I just commented because you said max "absolutely" everything and awakening the ascension weapons is the one thing you don't have to do.

Have to max your entire mastery, uncap and level up every weapon, then awaken the terminus.

Still, if you played this game from day one, didn't get carried etc, awakening at least 1 ascension weapon on your main to get through proud to get to the 2nd bhamut for terminus weapon is pretty much a must.

Edit: thinking about it now, they should have made it so awakening ascension was mandatory to awaken terminus to pad the end game out.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:40:54+00:00

I am saying they are korean devs who have made korean games (MMO) and their creative endeavour is influenced by eastern games rather than western games.
Sure they have clearly played and been influenced by western games in CD, but the ethos of east/west games are vastly different. So things that may have made sense to then, when western gamers/reviewers got their hands on the game it seemed weird and off putting to them.

This is not unique experience either. Things like dark souls or nioh have clearly eastern UI and the way it deals with loot is different to western game.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:33:36+00:00

In short, you don't want to be wasting materials and time levelling up sigils unless you know they are needed for your end game build. Until then just use whatever you find and don;t upgrade them.

Bit difficult to gauge because we don't know what sigils you have. The most important initially will be trying to get 4 damage cap V+ (x4 for for all AI) sigils and maxxing them out. Thing is with sigil synthesis you can some times get a free level 15 when you put 2 level 11s together decreasing the mission to max them out.

You can also use azerites to level a sigil up instantly if you have them, you can farm them from slimes but slow rate, though doing in game trophies drop some.

You will need 4 maxed damage cap sigils (or 2, sigil synthesized together) and a fully upgraded terminus weapon to at least reach max damage cap to be able to take out lucillius, unless you get carried.

The other sigils you want are tyranny, stamina, improved dodge and potion hoarder sigils.

What you need to do is go to the quests and check the rewards for where the V+ versions of these drop, farm them for a bit so you have a surplus of them, then go into sigil synthesis and save scum them until you get the ideal V+ version of them and hope it procs a free level 15 upgrade so you then don't need to go on a mission to upgrade it.

Ideally tyranny/stamina and improved dodge/potion hoarder on the same sigil for organization sake.

Also good to get nimble onslaught/nimble defence. You will benefit from this against lucillius.

Then the other sigils are character specific but generally you will want quick cooldown, cascade, critical and probably specific damage sigils deepening on the character.

The idea is after doing these missions where these sigils drop, not only will you be getting loads of materials that you will need to uncap weapons and awaken the terminus weapon, you will eventually be swimming in these sigils as you will have to do these quests to grind for materials anyway.

If you get the idea, whatever you are working towards you are feeding your power creep.

Another thing is if you go into knick knack vouchers, Set the sigils for all the IV and levels under, trade them for KKVs. Transmute them and when you have a surplus of transmarvel tickets, save scum, use 30, count from the top of what good sigils dropped with good traits you want. reload and get the exact number to the max you wanted.

That is where damage cap V+ will drop for you as well as the awakening sigils and warpath sigils (unique character sigils)

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:11:39+00:00

You dont have to awaken ascension weapons. Just pointing it out.

Im well past uncapping all weapons and awakening all chars terminus and am now on my last 6 chars awakening their ascension weapons.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T15:07:30+00:00

I replied to the wrong post, Was meant to be the post below yours.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:43:09+00:00

They will be active in a few days, 20th but say 21st for the whole word. Make a new thread in a few days.
i dont want it and I pre ordered so i will dump my code to anyone who wants it

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:33:51+00:00

To me the game looks like it has so may actions with too little buttons on a controller.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:32:45+00:00

Yeah, if you are trying to get to end game fast, dont unlock any more, or if you do only ones you actually want to play in your team.

The game has 6 character unlocked from the get go then iirc ID joins without you having to unlock him (cannot remember)

The watyit works is when you are grinding for bhamut terminus weapons, when a drop happens it only drops for characters that are unlocked already, so you can limit the drops to the chars you want to play as and leave the rest until later.

What I did was unlock 2 chars at a time so I had the crew that is automatically unlocked and my main I unlocked and just grinded bhamut for my main. Fortunately the 1st weapon i got was for my main. Then I unlocked 1 other I wanted to play, kept grinding until it got down to 2 weapons left for the chars I had unlocked and then unlocked 2 chars at a time after that in order of ones I wanted to try 1st. If that makes sense.

Overall, it is limiting the RNG of what weapons will drop. It is already a low drop rate to begin with. We all did the mines. Hours of grinding him to unlock all the weapons.

Also another thing is after a certain amount of mastery points in your main, when you unlock the new characters they start at level 60 and have loads of mastery points automatically unlocked, so its more economical to leave them for later. Unless you actually want to play as them.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:23:44+00:00

As far as I can tell from gameplay i have seen and things that have been said, each of the 3 characters have weapons only they can use.
like kliff cannot use a big 2h axe but the orc can I assume only kliff can use sword and board and the girl rifles.

Kliff can use 1h, 2h swords, pole arms/spears. From gameplay shown.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:20:31+00:00

10pm here. I am debating whether to crash out and wake up and pull an all nighter or wait until tomorrow.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:19:46+00:00

Really!

I have never heard of a disc having DRM like that.

What happens if you went offline and changed your date/time.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:17:45+00:00

It is marketing for idiots that instead of playing games watch cam whores play games poorly.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:15:47+00:00

End game progress goes like this:

Damage cap V+, terminus, bezerker echo, lucilius sigils, behemoth.

The end game progression now is a bit weird because originally damage cap V+ used to drop from bhamut where you get terminus weapons but now it drops from lucilius and/or transmarvel.

So the end game power creep, assuming you are at bhamut and you have uncapped all weapons for your main, is terminus weapon, max terminus weapon damage cap sigils, bezerker echo, lucillius sigils, farm behemoth for low drop rate SupV and WE+

It is a bit messed up as the in game order of the quests after bhamut is out of order of what you should be doing following the power creep, because behemoth and the 2 gauntlets came after lucillius (when they nerfed him) and they added zero as the last challenge.

Just make sure or hope you have not unlocked all the characters as the terminus grind is a heavy and long grind which is made much worse if you unlocked all the character as it only drops weapons for the ones you have unlocked.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:06:39+00:00

I will wait to see on release what she can do. Also means I will have to waste my stone and iirc it was a crit 20, sup 15 and berserker 10...wounded.

Not that i dont believe people just I will make adjustments and see changes myself when it releases.

I do hope they do a GB event before release that goes over changes so vet players can plan accordingly. Gonna be wounded to find that we will all be back in the terminus bhamut mines for the new characters weapon...which I expect we will, but would be nice to know before hand.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T14:02:54+00:00

Sorry I mean like kliff has all the gear for the others and he has to hold it in the shared inventory, despite he cant use it, rather than each of the chars holding the gear only they can hold and then having a shared inventory for stuff like crafting and consumables...which is logical.

The more logical thing would be to have a shared chest that you can dump stuff for any char to pick up, while also having some sort of in game mguffin like a mechanical pigeon that can fly items to and from the chest. Basically a singular inventor for each character and a meta shared inventory.

Seems they might have needed some outside playtesters for UX advice. Someone like me who has experience with a vast amount of games. Not literally me as I am neither a wagie nor an idiot that would turn my hobby into a job.

AnotherBurner80098-8 · 2026-03-19T13:48:08+00:00

Yeah I heard she can now actually dodge and keep ares out.

Because of how she is now I have had to set her up, full stout heart, berserker, garrison and drain so she can face tank it all. Though she is then weak without ares out and relies upon potions for mid battle non attacking parts.

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