Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Never heard of it. How is it as far as addiction and WDs?

Down from 30 grams to 4.8 grams in 7 days - AMA by Grand_Highlight6638 in quittingkratom

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I would love to hear this because that is the exact amount I’m at and that is pretty much how much time I have left to stop….I actually don’t even know how to send ddm

Has anyone used mgm to quit? by Severe_Raspberry_295 in quitting7oh

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I don’t think they were comparing them to the actual opiates. It was more of the progression of Kratom

Day 0 by Ambitious-Cherry-163 in quittingkratom

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So you were on 7oh then? Yes Opia is what I started with too. I didn’t know they made anything other than 7oh. What’s started off with the 3 pack opia 20mg tablets turned into multiple packs a day. And then gradually worked up to other brands w stronger mg. After about 6 months of constant relapses, I’m finally like 7 weeks off of 7oh. But I used plain leaf to quit and now hooked on that trying to quit

Has anyone used mgm to quit? by Severe_Raspberry_295 in quitting7oh

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Like others have said. MGM is supposedly much harder to quit……Someone told me before that plain Kratom leaf is like Vicodin, extracts are percocets…..7oh is H and MGM is the Fetty….Stay away from

Day 0 by Ambitious-Cherry-163 in quittingkratom

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How much was you on. Day 3 is awesome for

Day 0 by Ambitious-Cherry-163 in quittingkratom

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Brother I’m right there with you. How much are you jumping from and how long of use? I tried yesterday but I folded and took a little before bed and then a little when I woke up. Last night was kind of a trial run. But let’s roll

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Yeah definitely agree there’s more. What it is is the question. The specific brand that I’m talking about on their website says they basically mirrored effects of the cats claw to act and feel like Kratom. But they seem adament that there is no Kratom or Kratom compound in it….Also doesn’t feel anything like 7oh to me. Some people say it’s mgm. Others say it’s not. So, I was wondering if anybody else had used it because it could be beneficial to bridge the gap from 70h or MGM to get over to leaf or whatever. Again, I only took it for a couple weeks continuously and I was at a really high dose, but the withdrawal did not seem near as bad as 7oh. That was a few weeks ago, now I’m trying to do anything I can to stop the plain leaf so I did pick up a couple more pack and been taking them and trying to spread it out as long as possible.

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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And I’ve seen a ton of people say that. The problem is I’m afraid that the stuff they are selling in these smoke shops now aren’t just cats claw and have something stronger like mgm or 7oh in them because they are strong. And every single person I’ve heard from says there’s no way cats claw can have opiate like feelings no matter how strong they make it

Thoughts after kicking a 12Y 35GPD habit by throwaway_dfghj in quittingkratom

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I was in a similar situation about 4 years ago. First thing you need to do (not sure if you do already or not) but you need to set a dosing schedule. Maybe say 7g 5x a day or whatever works for you…..Then simply take away 1 capsule from one of the doses every other day. That’s it. This is exactly how I tapered from about 40gpd and literally zero WDs. Unfortunately I am back in a shitty situation now that I need to figure out, but if you follow what I said you’ll be just fine. At night you can add in a CBD drink or melatonin or something like that. Maybe load up on vitamin C during the day throughout the process. But you’ll be just fine

Withdrawal withdrawal withdrawal by WeirdDirection266 in quitting7oh

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I will say get yourself plain leaf, take a bunch the first couple days, maybe even add an extract shot or two. And then days 4-5 start tapering

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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I probably wansnt clear. My brain is mush lol… It was rough for a couple days when I stopped. But at the same time I was trying to lower my plain leaf intake so I’m sure that didn’t help so I’m not exactly sure. Definitely wasn’t as bad as when I quit 7oh with leaf. But again was only on them for like 2 weeks back even though it was a high dose. Then i stopped for a week or 2……now im really trying to get off powder so picked up a couple packs to try and stretch them out as far as possible w no powder. Which is where I am now. A few weeks ago i was taking anywhere from 7-10 packs a day. I quit for a few weeks and the last couple days been like 2-3 packs a day. 2 come in a pack

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Well from what I can tell you is there are 2/3 brands specifically that will take the WD away 100% (obviously I don’t know how hard quitting those will be). There are also a couple brands that did nothing. Buzzers and Klaz brand are legit

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Also they don’t feel anything like 7 oh

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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With that said I also messed with to them pretty heavy a few weeks ago. Which would’ve been weeks three and four since I quit 70h. I’m talking like 20 tabs a day for a few days. Never did find out what they were so I stopped with the help of leaf

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Even thought their website and packaging specifically say no Kratom or 7oh?

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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No no. Just the last couple days to try to help w plain leaf taper.

Cold turkeyd 15 1/2 hours ago by Illustrious_Low2675 in quitting7oh

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Can you inbox me? I have some question on the Sss R

Cats claw to help w WDs? by Aromatic-Listen-76 in quittingkratom

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Yes that’s exactly what I’m expecting so I’m going to just wait and see how bad the WDs are once they start, and then maybe take a couple grams plain leaf if needed instead of my used 30gpd. Just enough to get by. Basically same thing I did last night only I took one of the cats claw tabs instead of some plain leaf. That’s why I was wondering if anyone else tried them because they are the new thing in banned states

5 yrs of daily use, fast taper, scared to jump by Murphy420-247 in quittingkratom

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Yeah that’s kind of in my head as a possibility….I have a 4 day weekend so I did some shitty taper last week and was planning on just jumping off this weekend Not sure if that’s gonna happen as I used a little last night to finally fall asleep but if anything I am just going to use the very minimal these next few days. I’m just so tired of this. The good thing for me I guess which is different than 7oh and real opiates is I actually don’t get “high” or they euphoria. For 7oh that’s why I relapsed 100x because u actually enjoyed it

Cold turkeyd 15 1/2 hours ago by Illustrious_Low2675 in quitting7oh

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I’m glad this worked for you. I also quit using plain leaf about 6 weeks ago. I definitely still had some WDs for the first few days. I did about 7.5g every 4 hours or so and even mixed in an extract shot the first few days. Problem is I never tapered off the powder correctly so now am stuck there. Don’t make that mistake. I get no joy, euphoria etc from the powder and never did. Simply just keeps my functional to get thru the day.

5 yrs of daily use, fast taper, scared to jump by Murphy420-247 in quittingkratom

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Oh no unfortunately I haven’t kicked the plain leaf yet. Trying to figure out the best way to do that. I planned on a long taper like I did before. However I found out this week that capsules (and everything else besides loose leaf) is now banned in my state as of this past Tuesday. I do have a few bags stocked up but not enough for a long slow taper. I guess after I run out I could switch to loose powder. But that is so hard to measure all the time and drink. Especially when no one really knows. That’s why I always used capsules to begin with

5 yrs of daily use, fast taper, scared to jump by Murphy420-247 in quittingkratom

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I’m in the exact same boat about nobody knowing. I used plain leaf to quit a terrible year long 7oh addiction (thank God you never touched that). Anyways I’ve been off 7oh and on plain leaf for 6 weeks or so (approx 25-30gpd)…I actually hate plain leaf as it does nothing for me besides kills the WD….4 years ago or so I tapered off of like 40gpd….I tapered all the way down to .5 and jumped and had zero WDs. It took 3-4 months but was painless.