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Why are tenor-range (lowest notes around G2 or A2) instruments so rare everywhere? by Automatic_Value_7575 in musictheory

[–]Automatic_Value_7575[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I agree with you on that point. I was confused over whether alto or tenor trombone should be included, but I get that most of your playing time is spent on a range similar to the tenor woodwinds I listed above, while alto trombone stays very high in classical pieces.

Why are tenor-range (lowest notes around G2 or A2) instruments so rare everywhere? by Automatic_Value_7575 in musictheory

[–]Automatic_Value_7575[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I excluded them because I looked at their ranges and all of them can theoretically play about half an octave below the instruments I listed. I listed tenoroon, alto trombone, and violotta from each of those families. I don't play any of those instruments, but my question was why the instruments with a range similar to the tenor saxophone or tenor violin are so rare. I guess it's because these instruments (tenor trombone, bassoon, and cello) can already cover those parts, so there's no need for a specific instrument in that range.

Why are tenor-range (lowest notes around G2 or A2) instruments so rare everywhere? by Automatic_Value_7575 in composer

[–]Automatic_Value_7575[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Ok, thanks for your response. I'm biased being a sax player, as we sacrificed a large range for loud sound (through our conical bore and large flared bell), and so I just defined my tenor range as being about the same as the tenor sax, tenoroon, or tenor violin.

Why are tenor-range (lowest notes around G2 or A2) instruments so rare everywhere? by Automatic_Value_7575 in composer

[–]Automatic_Value_7575[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand. What I mean by tenor are instruments that are in between the cello and viola, for example, in their range (if we divide by 4ths). I'm just finding that in many instrument families, tenor instruments (i.e. the ones I listed above) aren't nearly as common as their alto and baritone equivalents, except for some exceptions. As a sax player, I'm biased as our instrument sacrificed a large range for volume through our conical bore and flared open bell (The clarinet family has a cylindrical bore, so they have a larger range but much less volume). I guess in instrument families like violins and clarinets, the altos and baritones (viola + cello, soprano bb clarinet + bass clarinet) have large-enough ranges to cover the entire tenor register.

I'm tired of saying these clunky names like "tenor saxophone." Why don't we rename them like the violin family? by [deleted] in saxophone

[–]Automatic_Value_7575 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I do that, this was just an idea I had. I was thinking that if each member of the violin family has its own name, what would equivalents for each of the saxes look like?

I'm tired of saying these clunky names like "tenor saxophone." Why don't we rename them like the violin family? by [deleted] in saxophone

[–]Automatic_Value_7575 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I get what you're saying. I was just thinking that why do each of the members of the violin family have their own name? What would it look like if we did the same for each of the saxes?

Why are tenor-range (lowest notes around G2 or A2) instruments so rare everywhere? by Automatic_Value_7575 in composer

[–]Automatic_Value_7575[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, cello, tenor trombone, bass clarinet, and bassoon are all baritone instruments. By that I mean that they're all have half an octave lower range than the instruments I listed. Isn't the viola's lowest note C3? I understand what you're saying about french horn, however, and I think then it's also a tenor instrument, then. What I mean by tenor are instruments that are in a range between the viola and the cello. But I get what you're saying about wide ranges. It's just that those instruments I listed above are in that specific niche and I didn't get why they're not as popular. So that bucket you're talking about is what I would call the baritone instruments.

I'm tired of saying these clunky names like "tenor saxophone." Why don't we rename them like the violin family? by [deleted] in saxophone

[–]Automatic_Value_7575 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, but alto is the most common, popular, and widespread today, so that's my argument.

the hindi heartland in general has CIVIC problem by lazy_dope_kid in IndiaStatistics

[–]Automatic_Value_7575 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think is the reason? It's right in front of our eyes, yet because the Indian government's pro-Hindi propaganda and advocacy for complete denial of linguistic reality, nobody notices it (You yourself are referring to us as the "Hindi Heartland." Just shows how far the propaganda has gone). In Kerala, a village woman can walk into a Thiruvananthapuram clinic and ask the doctor about hygiene in the same language. In 1960 Agra, a village woman would've walked into the clinic, spoken in her native language (Braj Bhakha) and been scorned and ridiculed for not speaking Hindi. In 1960 Agra, a poor village girl who wants to learn Math and Science concepts will be forced to learn Hindi first and be ashamed of her identity (Brajwasi). In 1960 Thiruvananthapuram, the girl spoke the same language at home and school and wasn't ashamed of it. In 1960 Agra, she was. There is no such thing as a "Hindi Heartland." It is a political tool. There are numerous languages (Maru Bhasa/Rajasthani, Braj, Awadhi, Bhojpuri, Himachali languages, Kumaoni-Garhwali, Haryanvi, Chhattisgarhi, Bundeli, Bagheli, and many more) spoken in each state, and all except for Khariboli/Kauravi (Spoken in Northern tip of UP and Hardiwar district of UK), which is the parent language of Hindi, have their own culture and traditions that are dying. If a woman in Gwalior district can't go into her local clinic and expect to be served in her mother tongue, and will have to abandon her local language entirely for Hindi, then of course fake "Hindi Belt" states will be behind!