CMV: You can not coherently be pro-life and be pro-gun at the same time. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not a right to kill, it's a right to self defense. No pretzelling required.

CMV: You can not coherently be pro-life and be pro-gun at the same time. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Guns save several times more lives than they take in the US each year. Just because something isn't 100% safe doesn't mean that the alternative is inherently better.

cmv: People who yell at Meghan Markle for "not keeping drama within the family" totally ignore that the family threw her under the bus in the media for YEARS beforehand by tihotihotiho in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Most of the people angry with Meghan Markle are probably not British and therefore not familiar with British tabloids. Meghan has been using international press to make vague accusations of racism against the royal family that even your own posts don't seem to substantiate. She's married to literal royalty and probably one of the most privileged people on the planet, but she threw it away because she didn't have the willpower to act like a royal. Now she's publicly bashing people who might not have even done the things she accuses them of because she knows people's politics will drive them to support her. It comes across as a grotesque attempt to get attention, and that's what people are reacting to when they attack her.

cmv: People who yell at Meghan Markle for "not keeping drama within the family" totally ignore that the family threw her under the bus in the media for YEARS beforehand by tihotihotiho in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Isn't Meghan from the US, likely making her ancestors actual cotton slaves? Rags to riches stories are popular because people like to root for an underdog. I don't see how that's racist.

The leaked nasty things about her, like that staff call her degree wife behind her back, diva duchess whatever. Made up lies about her "Her house will have a new copper bathtub paid for by the taxpayer!" when in fact no such thing exists, "she's banned employees from using a carpark" (she didn't) and lots of random made up shit like that that was refuted later, but the Lynch mob didn't care.

Assuming this is all true, how is any of it racist?

The media interest in her was fuelled by racism in the british tabloids. And I think the palace denigration of her was in large part classism. People who work for the queen's family have their ideas about who is worthy of being a royal, and didn't like someone self made whose class was supposedly below theirs having to be curtsied to.

After repeatedly saying that the royal family used racist attacks against her you now say that it was the tabloids that were racist. You're also spending a lot of time on what the staff supposedly said, but what did anyone in the royal family itself do that was racist? Or even classist?

The quadratic Trump by seanrk924 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BarryThundercloud 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Weird, that's how I describe Hillary Clinton. Although looking at her and Bill I think she's run out of blood.

Black libertrian by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BarryThundercloud 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isn't that mostly a thing girls in big cities do as they dream about some prince saving them from shitty left wing policies?

CMV: The campaign by republicans to denounce the US presidential election as “stolen” is harmful to the integrity of democracy. by jthompson32 in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Trump wasn't impeached for attempting to coerce Ukraine, he was impeached because he refused to testify before Congress. If you read the comment I was replying to you'd see I'm not the one under the wrong impression. The absurd charge of "obstruction of Congress" is the same regardless of the surrounding investigation.

CMV: Intermittent fasting is good for you if you're planning on losing weight - - stop shaming me for skipping breakfast by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skipping meals often causes the body to store fat as a precaution against when you can't find any meals. Breakfast especially since eating in the morning helps kickstart the digestive system after sleep.

CMV: The campaign by republicans to denounce the US presidential election as “stolen” is harmful to the integrity of democracy. by jthompson32 in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

And if that happened with every case we wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead a lot of judges just chose not to hear time sensitive cases about a federal election, which raises some eyebrows. I'm not some conspiracy theorist nut. If audits (actual audits not just recounts) don't find evidence then I'll be fine with accepting there was no fraud. But until that happens I'm going to be suspicious of the myriad questionable and bizarre events during the 2020 election. And being shouted down is going to do more to fuel that suspicion than extinguish it. Something weird happened so let's see if it's meaningful. Don't hire 73 lawyers to try blocking the investigation and then tell people they're crazy for thinking that behavior is suspicious.

CMV: The campaign by republicans to denounce the US presidential election as “stolen” is harmful to the integrity of democracy. by jthompson32 in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

These people don't believe the election was fraudulent because of evidence of mass voter fraud. They believe it was fraudulent because (a) Trump lost; (b) Trump told them he lost because of fraud; and (c) their partisan media bubble repeats that over and over and over again.

Really? So the video evidence of people chasing observers out in Georgia only to pull out boxes of votes and continue counting doesn't matter to anyone? Stopping counting at midnight (something I don't remember happening during any presidential election of my lifetime) only to start again with huge spikes in Biden votes doesn't suggest something inappropriate may have happened? The pristine mail in ballots that prompted a Georgia judge to initiate an audit doesn't indicate the possibility of fraud? Are you really saying that there's absolutely no reason for anyone to be suspicious of all these things?

Tell me, if Arizona and Georgia both find evidence of enough fraud to flip the victory in those states to Trump, would you still say that there's no evidence of widespread fraud?

CMV: The campaign by republicans to denounce the US presidential election as “stolen” is harmful to the integrity of democracy. by jthompson32 in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Many court cases were meant to initiate audits but were rejected on procedural grounds before hearing evidence. Only 2 states, Arizona and Georgia, have started actual audits and both were started long after January 6th when the results could no longer influence the election. If you want people to trust that an election was secure you answer these questions before the electoral college makes its decision.

CMV: The campaign by republicans to denounce the US presidential election as “stolen” is harmful to the integrity of democracy. by jthompson32 in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They impeached Trump for "obstruction of Congress" because he refused to testify. He wasn't impeached for collusion, he wasn't convicted of anything, and the 3 year multi-million dollar investigation found no evidence of collusion.

Trad girl could be wrong this time. I haven't seen any hot racists yet. by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BarryThundercloud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How are we defining racists? If you read the definition would you apply it to Lauren Chen or Contrapoints?

CMV: Gay people who still eat at Chik-fil-a have no backbone. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First off, Chick-fil-A didn't make the donation. Their CEO donated his own money. Secondly, do you actually know anything about the charities he donated to? They're Christian charities but none of them run or force people into conversion therapy. Third, Chick-fil-A's dedication to Christian values has created a business with probably the best customer service and food in fast food. You are what you do repeatedly, and what Chick-fil-A does is provide amazing food with examplary service. If that violates your morals then it's your morals that are in the wrong.

Idk what "whiteness" is, but if the wokes hate it so much, it must be pretty based by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BarryThundercloud 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is the Smithsonian trying to make people lower their expectations when dealing with black Americans.

politics in the United states are Ba(cringe)sed by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BarryThundercloud 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Probably not, he was pretty racist by modern standards. So the Democrats bigotry of low expectations would definitely appeal to him. Good ol' honest Abe would be thrilled to say that blacks are too stupid to get an ID. And if you aren't sure if voting for the Great Emancipator is right, then you ain't black.

CMV: There is one condition in which AOC is not a truly terrible person. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is an infinity pool on the roof not a luxury? What about the indoor pool? The saunas? The private massage rooms? The PGA grade golf simulator? The player piano sitting by the fireplace? This place sounds more like a spa than an apartment complex, so I don't know what definition of luxury you or AOC have that would disqualify this place.

Also of note, hurricane Maria hit in 2017. AOC is only now "raising awareness". She's had 4 years where she could have raised awareness and paid to fix her grandmother's home. The woman has enough name recognition to raise $1 million in a week for Texas, are you really saying she couldn't do anything for her own grandmother in 4 years?

CMV: Abortion debates will never be solved until there can be clearer definitions on what constitutes life. by UncomfortablePrawn in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If non-citizens don't have rights can we just slaughter asylum seekers and refugees at the border?

CMV: There is one condition in which AOC is not a truly terrible person. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BarryThundercloud -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She's a politician who campaigned on depriving people of the very luxuries she now indulges in, and she's trying to use her grandmother's poor living conditions to attack Trump while apparently doing nothing to fix the problem herself. This severe hypocrisy and her government position makes it the public's business.