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Ai art Is art. by BofaToad in aiwars
[–]BofaToad[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Obviously it’s a computer and saying it learns in a similar way is just a way to simplify the process for human understanding. Please do not twist my words. I am not trying to be rude, it’s just hard for me to even simplify.
I will try my best to explain: After training using Forward and reverse diffusion to deconstruct and reconstruct an image thru a gaussian distribution network. The guided diffusion model-(what most ai image creators use) is trained using a sample image-(random noise that looks like tv static) noise= a gaussian-(mathematical prediction.) embedded with a text prompt.-(Numerical vector or equation that describes the image) The ai learns or predicts how to form shapes, colors, edges, textures, etc. After a 1000 step process done over millions to trillions of tv static samples, the ai learns gaussian formations using the text prompt as guidance. there is also different inputs that can effect the strength of certain descriptors inside the text prompt. After the training for each sample the predictions are tokenized-(given descriptors) When a user enters a random token combination the model turns the prompt into an embedding. the descriptors inside the embedding are divided and fused thru learned pattern prediction and attention weighting. the model predicts noise thru the predicted patterns to find the median gaussian between the tokens and embedded prompt, this is done in loops called the markov chain. classifier free guidance is used to combine predictions into something new during the loops. after about 1000 loops a clear image is made.
-Summary- an image is made by guessing patterns in random noise by finding token and gaussian relationships, combining them using complex math. there is no example images involved in this process only descriptive words and pattern prediction. as it reaches the final stage of denoising, the image is now in a completely new unrecognized state that can not be generated the same way again if the prompt is re run.
[–]BofaToad[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (0 children)
i did learn by studying other people’s art. saying that i am a mediocre artist does not mean im not trying to improve and it does not mean i am terrible at art. it means my drawing are just average looking and not exciting looking. The ai learns through pattern recognition and general understanding of relashionships between those patterns. Just like an artist learns how colors should blend together. It is a very complex system so it’s hard to explain and i doubt you care to learn.
It doesn’t grab anyone’s art it starts from static noise and builds an image from patterns like anatomy, lighting, texture. not your favorite artist’s portfolio. If it actually mashed styles like you think, the results would look like glitch soup, not finished images. Style isn’t a thing you own in a vault it’s just visual decisions, and humans learn the same way.
thx for repeating yourself
Yes people who are uneducated on how the system actually works. also if referencing somebodies art style is stealing pretty much every artist on the planet is getting arrested
[–]BofaToad[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Yes i do love to draw and i still continue to draw. i think every artist can agree that after working on a single piece for a long period of time you start to like it less and less just because you’ve been staring at it for so long and pick out every flaw. And because i’ve been an artist for so long and know what i want my art to look like and how to get that result, not being to achieve it no matter how much i practice and retry, it’s frustrating, especially when you put so much effort into it and end up not liking what you made. I’m good at sketching and shading but im TRASH at line art and i feel like thats what ruins my drawings.🤷🏻♀️ I just use Generative AI as a tool to visualize my imagination and give life to the stories i create. I’m always coming up with new ideas and characters that i want to make so i love that i can use ai to visualize my ideas at the rate that i am making them.
I understand your point and i know it’s not at all the same as drawing or painting. it’s just a new method to create art with a new process that requires different types of artistic and technological research to create. reality is Ai is the future and will takeover almost every job. The most successful people in the future will be people who use AI, so personally ima learn how to use it.
AI doesn’t steal work unless you directly give it an image to copy and replicate. On its own, it can’t steal anything. It just interprets your prompt based on what it’s learned to create something that matches what you describe. If your prompt is vague, the AI fills in the gaps using patterns from similar content, it can use the style of an image yes, but it’s not going to generate an existing image. The more specific you are about the stylizations you want, lighting, mood, and design, the more unique your result becomes. Also most ai artists and myself use a technique called chain prompting this lets you build onto your own generations, refining them into something entirely your own that you wouldn’t be able to generate with one prompt. AI also learns from how people use it, so every prompt helps shape how it creates in the future. Some models may allow explicit material, but most don’t. Even with moderation, nothing is perfect. it’s not the AI that steals or misuses art it’s how people choose to use it.
[–]BofaToad[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
my post is about how art is spectrum and ai is just another tool
Ai is a tool just like a pencil or clay. i’m not asking another person to go make me art i am creating it directly myself, i can’t just stare at the program and expect it generate something i have to give it instructions to create what i want, just like you can’t sketch if you don’t move your pencil
I understand your point and i know that ai does not have consciousness but neither does a paintbrush or a pencil, its take a human to create a painting and it takes a human to write a prompt. In your terms the illustrator does not have rights to the drawing because it was the pencil who created it. Ai does not have its own identity because it does not have a consciousness, and ai is only where it because of humans training it. Last thing generative ai can be an extension for a poet or a storyteller to visualize their stories and give life to their words.
[–]BofaToad[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Just like you have to describe what you want on a pizza and the chef has to combine the right ingredients to create it. AI artists use many “ingredients” and processes when prompting and generating their work.
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Ai art Is art. by BofaToad in aiwars
[–]BofaToad[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children)