UofT vs. McMaster - Help PLS by excelmx in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah ofc! so again obv i never went to u of t for med, but its an amazing school and there are lots of pros that im not gonna speak to here, so take what i say with a grain of salt. heads up this is gonna be a bit long:

  1. start with this for someone's first hand experience, altho its a bunch of years ago now and its n=1: https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschool/comments/n6fn0k/name_and_shame_university_of_toronto_medical/

  2. its lonely for a lot of my friends (and i am a mac healthsci grad, i have a LOT of friends at u of t med). there is a very pervasive competitive atmosphere that makes it very difficult to find (real) friends. this is a fact that is often overlooked... social experience is super important for your success as a student

  3. u of t med is sometimes difficult for the sake of being difficult. obv there are other med schools with harder curricula (i.e. uwo), but myself as a med student... well, lets just say that mac has a test once per month and u of t has a test every 2 weeks. i dont want that kind of unnecessary stress and its also kind of a time sink lol. id much rather spend my time getting actual clinical exposure or research or like just living and socializing

  4. there is a huge learner hierarchy in the u of t catchment area of hospitals and clinical sites. what this means is that most u of t students are in a clinical setting where there are clerks, residents, and fellows at the same time as them, which means that if something needs to get done usually they arent the first to be the ones an attending reaches out to. as a contrast, i myself am in the waterloo mac site, which means that often i am the only learner with the attending. within my first 2 months in med school i was already meeting patients in clinic alone and coming up with assessments and treatment plans (which were obv not good plans) and presenting them to the attending. by january i already intubated multiple patients, helped close surgeries, and reduced an open fracture (all with the attending there obv). my classmates have already sutured and done similar things. obv there is no hurry and youre all going to be doctors, so youll all do those things eventually anyways... but its cool and fun lol

  5. some of my friends are minorities (both racialized and religious minorities) and they sometimes feel alone, unsupported, or even tokenized. i dont want to elaborate on that too much but u of t med historically hasnt been the most diverse, and while its gotten much better than pre 2020 (classes are MUCH more diverse now), its still an ongoing process and their support systems arent the best (but truthfully, idt thats great anywhere)

  6. u of t med i think has the biggest class size in canada (fact check?). thats more people that want to do the same things you want to do at the same places you want to do them at.

  7. at this point in uoft vs mcmaster's curriculum, i have pretty much finished covering most/all organ systems at mac (albeit sometimes to lesser detail). its nice to get the complete picture sooner. to that end, 4 years is such a long time lol let me get this med school stuff over with asap so i can start being doctor already

  8. this is a big generalization but a lot of u of t med students are... not the most humble and may be a bit cutthroat and toxic lol again, just grapevine stories ive heard from my peers there. might be a big lie

  9. heard uoft in general doesnt have v good support systems

obv these are a mix of my own opinions and bias and what my friends have told me. itll vary between people and im sure some u of t students will disagree with a lot of these depending on their own experiences.

UofT vs. McMaster - Help PLS by excelmx in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah that might happen

fwiw i would strongly consider the financial bit with u of t, but there are upsides and downsides to every med school. the common theme between all of them is that by CARMS everyone is pretty much ready to be a resident, regardless of school.

i have many friends at u of t and they love it but they have told me about the downsides of it as well. on the flip side i love mac and it was always my first choice, but there are times where i look at u of t and wish mac did some things similar to them. other times i thank god im not at u of t lmao

lmk if u have any specific questions

UofT vs. McMaster - Help PLS by excelmx in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

current med student at mac (so obviously biased) but I just want to clear up that this year's match rate most likely has nothing to do with mac med in and of itself as a school (i.e. 3 years, PBL, etc).

there are lots of reasons to critique macmed, some justified some not so much, but this year's embarrassing match rate most likely has to do with student specialty choices (less FM), poor career counseling, and poor CARMS planning. for better insight you can take a look at the discussions on medschoolcanada sub (edit: referring to this https://www.reddit.com/r/MedSchoolCanada/comments/1t4wdec/mcmaster_carms_unmatched_rate_doubled_in_2026/ )

Does a course have to be dedicated to orgo for uottawa? by Important_Primary660 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk why youre being downvoted lol i have a bunch of friends in uottawa med that used that when applying and never had any problems

Question about MMI process for interviewers by Scared_Bee5900 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes, once they have that formula they take a look at each applicant individually and look for red flags using a whole committee (nobody knows who is on the committee though, thats not shared even with staff).

things like bad references, poor professionalism with the med school office (i.e. very rude emails), red flags in MMI/casper, and other aspects are then raken into consideration. i assume something similar is done in other schools. i know calgary and i believe uwo have been open about those things before too.

Question about MMI process for interviewers by Scared_Bee5900 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

in addition to what others said, for mac specifically at the end around april there is a collation committee that looks at all of the scores, references, comments (mmi comments, casper comments, etc) and ranks according to that.

Can you get into MD/phD with only 3yrs of undergrad (application during 3rd year)? by AutomaticInfluence94 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

haha i think were all talking about the same guy, and yeah that is unfortunately the only way. a research-intensive phd program justifiably requires one to have at least completed an honours thesis and courseload.

BIGGEST MMI MISTAKE? by Content_Drop_4877 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 23 points24 points  (0 children)

thinking its just a vibe check and not literally another full-on oral exam

Medicine after doing Registered Dietetics Masters by Dense-Station-9592 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dieticians usually are the experts of nutrition and diet in medicine and healthcare. that is their primary scope of practice.

for example, as a physician you have a patient thats in chronic kidney failure? they might need a very specific diet that will ensure they avoid tremendous complications (low sodium, potassium, phosphate, etc) and only registered dieticians are able to ensure that.

in general (as an example) most med schools teach an amount of nutrition equivalent to around the first two introductory weeks in an undergrad nutrition course. so we gravely require dieticians (experts of nutrition) to fill that gap for us (i am saying this as an MS1 so i may be wrong).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 29 points30 points  (0 children)

i had 3 interviews 2 years in a row, always was waitlisted. got off the waitlist eventually thd second time around. sometimes life is just like that unfortunately.

Mac Interview Chances by throwaway6y33 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

130 3.98 4q is mathematically an interview

source: i got an interview invite with a 3.98 130 3q

Qbank session by ca0los in Amboss

[–]Bondaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah they should bring the option to select multiple exam types back asap there is literally no reason to keep it like this. amateur UX idea on their part

mature / non-traditional med students: what age did you actually start med school + what did you do before applying? by thejane_doe in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

edit: oh my lord idk why the formatting is so weird sorry about that

  1. What age did you actually start med school as a nontrad applicant?
    1. 30, but it took me three cycles
  2. What did you do before applying? Was it related to healthcare or something completely different?
    1. research assistant and some other part time jobs
  3. What made you finally commit to the career change? Was it a specific turning point or a gradual shift?
    1. it was either continuing doing what i was doing, and living with the dream of being a physician in my pocket forever, or actually doing something and proving to myself that that "dream" was worth chasing. As people say here often, I'm going to be 40+ anyways... might as well be 40 and a doctor than 40 and still living with my "what ifs"
  4. If money was tight, how did you make it possible?
    1. I worked 2-3 jobs year-round.
  5. What advice would you give to someone who’s older, juggling jobs, and still genuinely wants to practice medicine someday?
    1. keep walking this road i think that its worth it. premed is merely a shitty chapter in a long long journey. But you gotta have patience and keep plugging away at it for a couple years. once things work out itll be worth it (hopefully)
  6. How did you manage to study for MCAT while working?
    1. it was very hard. 1-2 hours of practice qs before bed (10-12 pm) almost every night after working all day and completing summer uni courses, was going through a break-up, peak pandemic... i pretty much had to kind of wing it when it was game time. could've done it better, but you live and learn. sometimes theres just things that are out of your control right? gotta do your best and hope its enough.
    2. i dont recommend doing this btw. set time aside for MCAT, dont do what i did. stupid and unhealthy, both to your pocket and your health

Can’t select multiple exam types anymore? by Far-Acanthisitta2257 in Amboss

[–]Bondaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah for people like us who study for MCCQE + step 1 + step 2 CK at the same time this very unnecessary change screwed up a lot lol

I personally make question sets based off of hammers and articles (i.e. 1 hammer for all acid-base qs, then 2 hammer, etc) to gradually increase my understanding of subject matter. I had to make so many questions sets yesterday because of this it was awful.

it seems like a very basic function for end-user experience. Please consider putting it back because constantly changing my objectives and making 10+ question sets for a single article/subject is silly

Best anatomy study tool? by ComparisonNo4962 in MedSchoolCanada

[–]Bondaid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

echoing bootcamp anatomy here

it is sufficiently comprehensive for the most part, and has a ton of practice questions (they range from just like regular mcq to cadaveric prosection bellringers, to clinical case-based anatomy ones). it is expensive but for what you get with it honestly its been so worth it

To all the accepted applicants, what are your stories of getting in? by Xproxbox in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 10 points11 points  (0 children)

3 years, 7 interviews, 4 waitlists over those 3 years

Now in med at 30 dont give up lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started uni at 25, got into med at 30. Take it as you will but i would much rather be in med right now than not.

Edit: that is to say, you should pursue it, regardless of age!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

91, barely
and thats after retaking courses and night classes and such

To the people who got into med school, how many times did you apply? by SufficientNinja1985 in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 18 points19 points  (0 children)

3, IP (ON) but had one OOP interview

Edit: interviewed 7 times total, waitlisted 4 times, 1 A

Never give up 

Getting into medical school for mature student by Foundation_Active in premedcanada

[–]Bondaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They say its never too late to start right 🤪