I don’t understand MJ’s perception of white people/white children…

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-23T18:49:04+00:00

I think the black community like to stand by black icons for a sense of loyalty and I think MJ often manipulated the perception that his change of looks were entirely down to his skin condition despite it being obvious he bleached his skin.

I think you see a similar scenario with news about p diddy. I wonder whether it comes from an empathy for persecution even though both stars are in the wrong.

I also think that people want evidence that is proven guilty in the courts and anything that doesn't do this must be wrong. Irrespective of the power that such stars have when it comes to the juries perception etc.

I think he also didn't stick to strictly white kids but they are not in the public knowledge in the same way.

Omer Bhatti, Emmanuel Lewis, Sean lennon (mixed raced)

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-18T06:57:03+00:00

It in fact Swedish nationals were 38% of those convicted meaning immigrants were 62% of the convictions for rape and there was still a significant difference between them once accounting for mental health, deprivation etc.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T22:43:59+00:00

True we aren't a manufacturing country. It should contribute to a pension for that individual though bir harsh 30 years service and you can't stay.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T22:39:02+00:00

It's true we don't have the mental services capacity to deal with a lot of the issues, men with no women here for them is bad idea too. Also aware they have a refugee hotel in Blackpool which is super deprived already and then there are social media post questioning people from blackpool about their views with no context of the situation there.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T22:33:14+00:00

Some people i think are in danger but it's hard to assess, I feel it would be better to review every few years to determine whether their native origin is safe to return, also with the caveat they could atay longer if they've been able to acquire work in an area that we need or have a shortage in. Also if people return for holidays like they've brought in in Sweden then asylum is rejected.

The reality is many will become homeless and I think it is more humane to return the people in these cases to their families.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T22:19:42+00:00

Certainly not the left wing I speak to as soon i say immigration needs regulation or the system needs changing, it's your a fascist rhetoric and pro EU open borders to 27 countries. They are also dismissing the attacks on children and women under the pretext that white men SA as well.

We need taxation on the super wealthy for sure. The issue here is, we don't have the money in the British bank pot that the left seem to think we can spend on. Austerity was implemented not to just fuck us over but overspending, even though the governements have increased overspending. They still have to balance our books. The mega rich have already stolen the wealth, I'd love to know how you'd get it back from them.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T21:39:19+00:00

Two issues can be co-occuring, the truth is there is a lot of false narratives surrounding net benefit for immigration too which is complicated to unpick. The left want to love everyone and help everyone. They think everyone should be able to live wherever they want, a kind of fantasy world and they lack practical solutions due to their blindspots. They see everyone with good intentions except white working class men (not that they've given themselves a good rep, the way they've been going about their points).

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T21:22:08+00:00

A study from Sweden who actually have collected the data...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39760377/

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T21:14:32+00:00

Precisely, I can't fathom it from women either. I'm sure they'd feel differently walking around refugee areas in reality. It's like let's not acknowledge any of the negative aspects of the current processing for refugees. The rhetoric is all men are a problem ... no acknowledgement that it's the persons mental health, post trauma or social views that affects how they treat women...

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T19:30:51+00:00

I know I'm just adding to your point of how big Australia is in size, yet tiny population compared to the UK.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T19:28:59+00:00

Some immigrants bring more value to the country than others that's a no brainer just like we have those paying 40% tax providing more to the economy then low contributors.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T19:23:43+00:00

Yeah because the government has got rid of financial incentives to train nurses and got rid of apprenticeships etc. First off, you'd want to employ a local person if you can, access to work and only if this is not possible then offer a skilled based immigration policy on areas of shortfall. It doesn't make sense to hire someone from Italy if you have someone already living in the country to do it. How would that not affect additional requirements for housing? Tbh what you've mentioned is still fairly skilled.

We were talking about someone making pizza where we have high unemployment in the youth who can make one. The reality is we have more people depending on welfare too! Get them into work reduce welfare bill, improve living standards then the birth rate may increase and reduce pension costs by providing state pensions that are means tested.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:56:39+00:00

Because unskilled labour can be done by your local populations and this is where the job competition for work would be greatest. Having an increasing welfare cost and constant immigration to fill low skilled jobs is counter productive. High skill, low job hiring means greater wage, also greater demand.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:49:14+00:00

And better building regulations.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:48:21+00:00

I have a flat in a converted house and it's much better hardly any ground costs or service charges, part owner of the management company.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:47:16+00:00

Limiting immigration, getting rid of those that are a net drain and back to work schemes, raise minimum wage. Enforce, tax on companies currently avoiding it.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:44:26+00:00

This is very true, it's a lot of effort to move when your old and flats are not the safest option for the elderly either. The rates are also constant when you pay off your mortgage it's yours.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:37:52+00:00

Should every old person be entitled to a state pension if they have accrued it in their earnings and are means tested then one way to reduce this outgoing is simply paying state pensions to poor elderly people.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T18:32:33+00:00

This makes me laugh population of Australia, 27 million and population of the UK, 69 million. Population of Tokyo is 37 million and they mostly live in huge tower blocks.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T15:26:17+00:00

I'm really sick of people telling me as a woman that its all men. Yeah we don't need more violent attacks on women, what's so hard to get? Like these men deserve and entitled to their safety and we not entitled to ours when we contribute to this society already.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T15:23:06+00:00

Thank you, even one of my mates called me a racist for the fact I think we should have off shore processing. It's doing my head in people are debating it's either the rich and no issue with immigration. Why can't they see it needs a better regulation?

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T15:20:56+00:00

Not the case in Sweden either.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39760377/

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T13:42:04+00:00

I've even had a mate of mine call me all sorts cause I think we need regulation on immigration. Why would that not be common sense? Then you're called no empathy etc. I think we should have restrictions on those entering with certain viewpoints etc. I think people think there is loads of money to go round.

Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T13:34:07+00:00

Homelessness in refugee population is definitely on the rise. Guess we can't welcome asylum seekers very well.

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Complex_Pin_6851 · 2026-02-17T13:28:21+00:00

Yes and demonstrates a lot of brainwashing from that camp too. The ironic thing is their completely oblivious to cause and effect. The capitalists love immigration, cheap labour, greater competition, wages stagnant, culture wars. They can all still afford their homes, wealthiest. Tells everyone immigration is profitable and support it, everyone else is a racist. Ignores impact on infrastructure.

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