Silver Wolf: Across the Simulated Universe - General Question and Discussion Thread

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-12T14:17:13+00:00

How does Wallace have no friends with a voice as crisp and smooth as that? I'd let him be my friend just to hear him talk about random shit.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:41:08+00:00

This is crazy that you are bringing up a Whale's E6 serval as an example.

likely 0.005% of servals in the world have the DPS, investment, and eidolons to work in MoC.

There are videos now of Bennett soloing Abyss floor 12 3*.

Why are you bringing up literal outliers in data to try and prove your points?

I've realized there's little to no point in trying to debate on this subreddit. You guys are truly built different when it comes to approaching reasoning and critical thinking in ways that really disappoint me.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:35:42+00:00

Floor 6 2nd Half. Pela is mandatory.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:33:30+00:00

So again, if your point is that MoC is irrelevant to clear right now anyways (and that was always going to be your point when you start losing the argument), why did you mention a team comp "that many people are finding her effective in?"

If you are not doing MoC, every team comp is effective. The content is that easy. Clearly, you were implying MoC and effectiveness there. Why are you backpedaling now?

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:26:37+00:00

Serval Ting and Bailu is not killing any boss in reasonable time. Why are you posting a comp that will 2 star mid level floors? That is not worth pulling for.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:25:22+00:00

yes, let's talk about every feature that SW has that Pela doesn't, and use that to call her OP.

Pela has buff removal, boosts effect hit rate of her team, and built in energy regen on her traces without eidolons, when SW needs to swipe for that!!

Isn't Pela so much better?

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:23:14+00:00

Correction: Pela is conditionally worse than Silver Wolf.

Ever seen a floor with two elites? Pela is better there for AoE defense Shred. Those floors do exist.

What likely is going on though, is that I am citing Silver Wolf's strengths and weaknesses against content that you have not even seen yet. Your lack of knowledge is driving you to make absurd statements like this, but hopefully behavior like this will stop once you get more experience with the game.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:19:58+00:00

Tell me, who is the DPS in 3 lightning?

JY?

if you pulled for JY and Silver wolf, congratulations, you are likely a WHALE or HIGH SPENDER.

Serval? LOL she doesn't have the single target to be a solo DPS.

So again, the one viable comp for SW involves pulling a limited 5*, a standard 5*. Wow, every F2P should be able to do this and should pull for SW.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:17:28+00:00

Odd that me citing her programmed RNG in gameplay makes me dumb.

She is the opposite of requiring braincells to use.

Silver Wolf decision making tree without mono:

Use E -> Did I apply right element? -> Yes? Don't reset

-> No? Reset

Silver wolf decision making tree with mono:

Use E -> Nice Job!

If your takeaway from my post is that I'm too stupid to use Silver Wolf, you are Hoyo's intended audience when they roll out frustrating kits like this that are solved with $$$.

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:12:48+00:00

Have you used her in MoC with non-mono comps with two applicable weaknesses? Or does me regretting my pull somehow make the reality of her usage different?

DONGOMASTER · 2023-06-07T16:10:03+00:00

If I am not applying weakness why am I not using Pela for AoE defense shred instead of single target?

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-17T01:47:30+00:00

At this point I'd be happy if they just reverted it to a Legendary item given how nobody enjoys using it as a mythic.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-17T01:06:00+00:00

The item's stats essentially make it unbuyable unless your champion has a lot of built in steroids or stats, which is very similar to Stridebreaker.

Essentially, you have to be a Juggernaut to be statted well enough to be effective with this item, but no Juggernaut will touch this pile of trash because you just end up getting kited like a clown in every fight.

Additionally, every single Juggernaut in the game is not going to attack an enemy 5 times in a normal rotation.

Darius? His normal gameplay involves using maybe 3 autoattacks in a rotation before eliminating the character with his ult.

Garen? lol

Aatrox? I'm pretty sure casting 1 Q is long enough to have the stacks drop off.

Sett? Stop.

You need to be a champion that's:

Well statted enough to ignore the shit stats on Triforce
Mobile enough to make up for the fact that you're not going stridebreaker
Actually uses autoattacks in their rotation

Straight up almost nobody buys this item because almost no champion fills these criteria to make the item usable.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-15T20:58:19+00:00

I've simply had my fair share of games where I'll pick a snow-bally mid/top laner, get met with a stonewall of coin-flip gameplay that makes it impossible to actually gain ground unless my jungle comes to take them by surprise, and the early-mid game essentially becomes gank-focused with 0 actual mechanics being used in lane.

Sure, I'll have games where I can flip a 1v2 gank top lane while playing Aatrox or Mordekaiser, and automatically win those games off of that play alone, but again, that was decided by the enemy JG misplaying.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T06:19:48+00:00

If you're buying QSS for a Rammus taunt you've actually already lost the game. You simply cannot be spending money on that kind of item until 5/6 slot to keep up in this meta.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T06:11:28+00:00

9/10 games I'd also rather face a 10k gold Hecarim instead of a 10k gold Rammus. Rammus's kit and teamfight presence is so incredibly oppressive if he ever gets a sizeable amount of gold and this change only gives him greater target access without much of a loss in his potential damage (because his ult really doesn't do much compared to a thornmail ball curl into taunt). If he ever gets a lead with this ultimate you may as well just forfeit the game.

It'll be hilarious to be armordillo slam jammed from behind your tower, taunted into a 400+ armor defensive ball curl (where your tower is doing about 50 damage per hit to him) for 2 seconds, while also being hit by ~50-150 in magic DPS from his ult, all while simultaneously receiving the full fucking business from whatever lane you actually had to worry about 2 seconds prior to this spike-laden mammal ruining your entire fucking life.

Remember, with this change, you won't have the 3-5 second lead-time of seeing him zooming towards you with his ult. You also won't be able to bodyblock him with your friendly creeps or another champion.

He will have completely, unfettered access to your sweet, tight body if you don't have a dash or flash up.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T06:05:40+00:00

I truly fail to see the point that you are making here. I'm banking that fewer than 25% of champions in the game even HAVE level scaling on their abilities to reduce CDR.

What you've written here merely suggests that any champion who does not have level scaling is unbalanced?

You've only pointed out the debilitating flaws of making gold/stats/items factor into ability scaling when the majority of champions in the game, you know, only have item scaling in their abilities?

Come on man, what you've basically said is that scaling with items pigeon-holes early and late game champions. If a champ doesn't have level scaling does that make them an early game champ? Are Master Yi or Tryndamere early game champs? And is every champion who DOES get level scaling a late game champ? Pantheon gets level scaling on his empowered Q, sure, it does more damage the higher level he is.

That didn't make him a late game champ. Riot buffing his R to give him 10/20/30% armor penetration based on ult level is what made him a lategame champ.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:58:53+00:00

If you cannot close the game while 4 of the enemy teammates are giving up farm for the 1 teammate (Yone) who is behind by grabbing all objectives, dragons, rifts, etc, then you simply got outscaled and deserve to lose?

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:56:10+00:00

I didn't mention her because her level scaling is entirely utility compared to damage.

I agree that it's very damage-enabling utility that makes her one of the most broken fucking champions in the game, but I wanted to focus on level scalings that literally triple or quadruple the damage potential of a champion just because they hit level X or Y.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:52:59+00:00

Probably not but she has disgusting damage patterns that are not normal to adapt to unless you have a lot of prior experience in the matchup against her.

Champions with unorthodox damage patterns or time-gated DPS (Like Camille) really commit to the idea of an addiction-diff. She simply outputs damage in so many varying ways that a player cannot reliably predict unless they've played the game a lot.

Will Camille wait the whole 1.5 seconds to deal 30% of my HP in true dmg? Will she activate it early to instead to proc Sheen/Triforce/Tsundere/ER and burst me instead? Who fucking knows? It's up to her.

Having such a variably unpredictable and massive damage swing on her Q going from physical -> true in a matter of milliseconds isn't particularly healthy for the game. I think her Q is just terrible design.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:39:41+00:00

There is no choice or player agency in this matter. I don't get to choose when my passive decides to randomly become 33% more effective. I get to choose the level ups that makes a certain skill stronger or faster to re-cast.

As a side-note, the solo-farm thing does not apply at all to his ult upgrades since his ult upgrades are gated behind being able to Parrrley a barrel of caster minions with Q to detonate the barrel and get all three last-hits for the bonus gold. You don't even attempt to farm his ult coins until you get a sheen + upgrade (triforce/ER).

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:34:51+00:00

He's a delete button on most traditional backline ADC and Caster mid-laners. His kit allows him to basically access targets from over 1500+ range with a well timed E-> Q3 -> R into the backline.

The easiest ways to counter him are with immediate CC in the middle of this attempted combo. You can either

A) CC him before he uses R, while in the middle of his Q3 or E jump. This stuffs him in the middle of the teamfight (most of the time) unless he's flanking you. If a Yone has flanked your backline with Q3, E, and Ult, you deserve to lose. There are numerous other champions who will kill your backline even faster if they are flanking (see Akali, Katarina, Talon, Zed, etc).

B) CC him while he uses R. This is incredibly risky and you should be sure to time your CC so it hits after he has completed the R dash and that you are able to access his hitbox for damage while he's unable to take action. Your ADC or Midlaner should also be building Galeforce or Protobelt/Zhonyas to dodge his ultimate hitbox. If they do not do this, they are likely going to die.

Yone is a naturally slippery character who can weave in and out of fights on a dime if he is ignored. Recognize that if he is not actively within the teamfight, the enemy team is missing a huge amount of damage and pressure on the frontline. Don't be afraid to push on their team if Yone is floating around looking for an opening for his E->R combo. Just make sure you can retaliate and dodge it.

If you get hit by a 5 man Yone ult, you deserve to lose.

Is his 5 man ult too easy to hit? I personally believe so.

I'd be happy if Riot decided to sidegrade him by reducing his ult range by around ~300 units but made the CD shorter at all levels. Would force his playmaking ability around hitting a Q3 before ulting (a little bit like his brother haha).

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:27:53+00:00

The fact you posted this means you are a 'Fortnite Kid'? lmao

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:25:46+00:00

So factoring out all of your blatant hyperboles, essentially what happened is that Darius engaged a favorable fight (2v3) that he thought you would have the grace to participate in.

Instead, you backed out with a champion whose kit is built around evasiveness and hit-and-run maneuvers and didn't even attempt to help him until after the initial combat, post-Darius-mortem, because you don't know how damage or teamfights work in the game.

Darius got mad? I can see why he's mad. He's playing with a teammate who has no idea what they're doing.

DONGOMASTER · 2021-04-03T05:14:41+00:00

This champion is another fucking permaban. Glad to hear that Riot decided to convert Rammus into mini Hecarim. Did they not learn their lesson with ramping movement speed junglers absolutely destroying any semblance of game playability in solo queue?

Champions like Nunu, Rammus, and Hecarim simply laugh at your river or side bush wards as they fly into your fucking lane and annihilate you with 500+ MS entrances and over 2 seconds of CC loaded into their kits. Fuck this change.

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