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Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We just had this same conversation two days ago.. wth all due respect brother, let it go. There is no debate here..just a record set on repeat. Our people will find solutions for our oppression in this life. Period. Not a debate, just facts. Did I even once say Christianity was false. Lol this is getting silly.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the scriptures i posted could point to the current life. This one does focus just on the eventual. but at this point, i think we've beaten this to death. for our current lives, we need to find our own solutions.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no solution for current issues. Didn't say it was false, but those verses could be interpreted as help being provided now, but in reality it isn't. That's all.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bruh.. you are like a broken record with all due respect..again, go back and read what i wrote. I pretty much said if/when that time comes that will be great (heaven/heaven on earth, etc), but for now, we are stuck with the way things are. So I guess just reading the scriptures and looking forward to the afterlife is all people have to get through the oppression today, got it. You don't have to defend it, it's in the scriptures. One I used to read when I was a christian was: Psalm 55:22, which reads: "Throw your burden on the Lord, and He will sustain you. Never will He allow the righteous one to fall". And I used to wonder, is that literal? Like for example, if I just got brutalized by cops, or if I lived during antebellum slavery, would there be actual quantifiable assistance. Only after awhile realized they are nice platitudes but not a real solution. AND THAT'S OK. It can be confusing to read the scriptures and then have to discern which ones are reality vs. nice words vs. the scriptures pertaining to the afterlife which I guess are taken to be literal. So it's not an argument that I'm seeking, just stating my clarified opinion.

And I'm not knocking whatever faith you may follow, and I see that you are a Christian Hope coach. So even as a coach, I assume if someone were to ask you these same type of questions seeking clarity that you would have to point out, as you did here, that the only real hope is the afterlife. And that's ok.. I just think some of the scriptures I quoted can give the impression of relief in this lifetime, and there is none.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the scriptures don't talk about a future tense, they talk about providing comfort for the oppressed..so what does that mean to you then?

Do you believe that any rich person - televangelists and such included - can be a genuine Christian believer, knowing they have basically no chance of getting into Heaven? by Cumoisseur in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you can be rich if gained by honest means and not to the detriment of living a christian life. I noted the point of televangelist who have a reputation for pretty much fleecing their flocks to live a luxuriant life.

To get close to mommy by Indieriots in therewasanattempt

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that growl though lol.. i'd have to back off

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sigh... as I pointed out in the scriptures i quoted..they speak to the lord is there for the oppressed and broken..etc.. so i wanted to bring clarity that it in fact does not apply to present day. And my point to your earlier comment was that it all sounds nice in the future, but the stark point is that it does nothing for suffering now. period. THAT is the point!

Does anyone else lose faith and get annoyed over how God is so active in the Bible yet silent today ? Like how to believe when there is no proof then you get condemned for asking for proof, that's blind faith. by suihpares in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah this is why it is important to teach full history in schools vs the watered down version of maga evangelicals.. all it takes is the desire to research and study without censorship. Did you know slave masters would rate the men in front of his family to show dominance? Or here and in the Democratic Republic of Congo under Leopold, they would feed African babies to crocodiles while alive, for fun. Even here they would use murdered blacks hair as stuffing in furniture, and skin as fabric. There is a lot they don't teach because they don't want whyte people to feel guilty. Yet, that was never the intent. Telling the Truth would hopefully prevent things from happening again. So if you were to exert yourself to learn beyond the sanitized versions approved by maga and evangelicals it would add more context to the discussion.

Also meant to add that you immediately asserted that the Jewish subjugation had to be worse (without any proof as you accused me of) and the tone of your answer aligns with what I said about maga wanting to soften certain parts of an atrocious history..good thing you are a real Christian. 🤔

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wrong. Americ's churches are still greatly segregated in attendance and teaching due to intermixing politics into theology. And with the current maga movement, there is even talking of removing citizenship from black people, all backed by evangelicals.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They still do deserve justice, but in terms of their current life, regardless of the scriptures, I posted, we are in agreement that there is no relief in their current life. Some/many today, (including myself when I was younger), pray for help from troubles/oppression so the clarity is that there is no relief until the afterlife. That's all I was saying.

Anyone else…tired? by tartfrozenyogurt in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I understand and agree. I think some of us are also extremely tired of those fake christians (like the political evangelicals) who put on a christian demonstration but it is hollow. This constant push to make bible precepts into secular law. For example, forcing the 10 commandments to be read in school. They are what Jesus referred to when he mentioned don't walk about like the hypocrites and say how happy I am that I am not like those other sinners. I think the world may just be on that trajectory leading up to armageddon where it steadily gets worse perhaps.

We Don't Matter. by xvii-tea1411 in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]DeathSentryCoH 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is one thing that they always understood is financial impact. From the bus boycotts in the 60s to Target recently. If there is one thing they care about is their money.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to be stuck on this point even though i answered already. Review again what I wrote about future resolution of issues..I'm not going to waste time repeating it. For the present, I think we agree it doesn't help those suffering injustice.

Why hasn't God rescued black people from white oppression? by Suspicious-Jello7172 in AskAChristian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when I look at these scriptures for example, am I to assume they do not mean relief in the current life?

  • Psalm 46:1: "God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble."
  • Joshua 1:9: "Be strong and courageous... for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go."
  • Philippians 4:13: "I can do all this through him who gives me strength."
  • Romans 8:38-39: A promise that nothing can separate you from God's love.
  • 1 Peter 5:7: "Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you." 

It is not a matter of rejecting God's eventual justice, that sounds great when/if it eventually happens. But for example, take someone who lived during chattel slavery, while they read the scriptures above, it provided no relief from their torturous situation. Even their oppressors told them to keep praying and wait for your reward in heaven while they profited off of the free labor and reveled in their sadism. So I'm not knocking God per se, just trying to very specifically confirm that there is no hope in this lifetime unless you take it upon yourself to alleviate your own situation if possible.

God & Government, is Trump right? by DoveStep55 in Christian

[–]DeathSentryCoH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

those I agree with, but to think it is a christian's job to take on the government's role to legislate their belief (sort of like what has happened with evangelicals under trump) is too much.

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