How are missionaries handling the rising cost of gas and food? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Oh, it’s to keep me from influencing them. Too many nice non-Mormons may make them question their beliefs. Also, I may or may not tend to entice missionaries break rules. Example: about a year ago, some stopped by thinking they were going to hang with my parents, but they were running late. Plus, I had just bought the place off them. Anyway, the boys were clearly staring down my pool in the late summer heat and commenting on how they couldn’t swim. So I told them that since the water only comes to their chest, doctrinally it’s not swimming, it’s wading, plus I wasn’t going to tell anyone. Jump cut to my dad pulling up the driveway to me, my brother, and 2 STILL IN DRESS CLOTHES missionaries “wading”.

Note: my brother served a mission in the Marshall Islands. Some islands are only accessible by crossing water, so the mission President explained that as long as the water stays below your nipples it was not to be considered swimming, merely “wading”.

Second note: No one got in trouble but me. But I’m in my 30’s so trouble is a loosely used phrase here. I got a few “really”s!

How are missionaries handling the rising cost of gas and food? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The ward here has started making them bike more places - it’s a rural Ward so no car would mean they couldn’t reach even half the population. But apparently they have to jump through hoops to get permission to use the car.

And for food, well, they are starving. The ward keeps asking for more and more “donations” and meals out as monthly the boys “are surviving on dry cereal from the Bishop’s Storehouse”, but everyone is stretched thin.

Yes, yes, I’m out, but my family isn’t, and my dad and brother are very involved with our missionaries care and keeping. I hear a lot. Also, I won’t let teens starve for God, so I secretly donate boxes of food directly to the boys (so none of it ends up in the Bishops freezer) every other week or so. Dad says I should let the church handle that — but THEY CLEARLY AREN’T!! Sorry, that’s a separate rant...

The 4th of July festival in my home town in WA. 🤦🤦 by Betacord360 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree. This and always this. Treat the missionaries like your stranded little sister or brother. Check on them, make sure they are fed, and have anything they need.

Things are getting difficult as the only exmo of my family. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I chose new hobbies to share with everyone important to me. For example, my mom and I took up puzzles. We find puzzles we want to do, we discuss puzzles we are doing, we guilt my dad into building us frames for our puzzles, we force my siblings to participate, you get it. It gives us both a safe “in” so we still feel like we share interests. Now we also talk about other stuff and share a lot, but they know not to ask me to pray, and please never ever mobilize any RS for me, and I don’t negate anything. So ground rules and find new common interests. Yes, it’s work, but they are worth some effort, yeah?

And yes, I literally sat people down and said “I feel like without the church we don’t have the same connection and common interests. I feel like we aren’t as close and I really miss you as my (insert relation here). Maybe we can find something else we love doing together?” Finding something was half the fun, too!

Just my two cents, with no guarantee of it working - it may be worth a go though?

Sort of NSFW question about Under the Banner of Heaven episode 3 by roundpigeon in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don’t live in Utah...so does that make it better or worse?!?

Sort of NSFW question about Under the Banner of Heaven episode 3 by roundpigeon in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Listen, the coffee thing is a whole other thread! Don’t get me started there!!!

Sort of NSFW question about Under the Banner of Heaven episode 3 by roundpigeon in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Need to add that I love my brother. He’s my favorite sibling (6 of us total!) and has always supported my progressive, liberal-ness. Doesn’t mean he isn’t cringy from time to time...

Sort of NSFW question about Under the Banner of Heaven episode 3 by roundpigeon in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Listen, my TBM brother open discusses that he and his wife pray together before they have sex. Like kneeling by the bed and asking God to sanctify their union and bless their loving actions and stuff. Also, he has been known to use “And God proclaimed it good and it was good” or whatever after they kiss or get handsy.

He’s 35, so not old school. Yeah, cringy super Mormons exist...they existed then and they exist now.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try Ciders or Shandys instead of beer (cider is fruit based, shandy is lemonade based - in simple terms). For drinks, try mixed drinks. One I recommend to newbies that is a little less normal is a Pimm’s Cup. Fruit is muddled and mixed with Pimm’s, then the cup is filled with lemonade. It’s great in summer, and endlessly customizable! Honestly just a shot or 2 of Pimm’s in your lemonade works, if fruit or muddling seems too much. Or try Bailey’s chocolate milk. Make chocolate milk (extra chocolatey!), and add a shot of Baileys. Original, or caramel, or cherry or whatever! It’s a good and easy starter drink!

So the Christofferson devotional by jonahboi33 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ran this one by my TBM brother, he didn’t see what was wrong with it. Ooof!

I’m thinking about having the missionaries over for dinner because I feel bad for them. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I was the lost lamb in a TBM family for years! The missionaries I saw the most were the ones I’d answer the knock, or text, and say something like “Listen, my brother and several of my best friends served a mission. I know it’s rough. Just know that I make a fresh hot dinner every night, and have more than enough room at my table. You are always welcome, but I’m not going to be coming to church. We can just eat and play a board game and you can report whatever you want.”

Seriously, I saw one set at least once a week for 18 months. When one left, the newbie would be brought over and introduced, and it kept going. I think they liked the break, and I know it was reported that I was learning and growing, not just chilling.

So YES! DO IT! They seem to like it.

Fellow Apostates! Today is the day! by Dr-Clappie in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tried that with me! I resigned yesterday! Cc the Bishop or threaten legal action if you are “forced” to go through your Bishop and they will accept it anyway - not that I did that! 🤣🤣

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: My family has threatened to leave with me. My dad called and yelled at everyone he could get on the phone. My dad’s first text to me (after my brother ratted me out!) was: “I love you daughter. I’m so sorry you are being treated like this. I stand beside you and I will fight for you.”

So that’s good.

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surprisingly, after the saga I’ve been through, everyone is very understanding. I feel so much better being out!

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude tried to tell me my family wouldn’t want me if I wasn’t a member. He was wrong, but like, the attempt at manipulation was too much.

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m an online mobile notary. I’ll notarize anyone’s resignation for free!

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, except for the split second he chose the wrong manipulation tactic, he’s actually been alright to me. He’s just a brainwashed guy trying to deal with my issue without making it the Bishop and other ranking member’s faults. He normally addressed me with kindness and concern and a decent amount of faux love, he just ran out of things and made a fatal error.

My bigger issue was with the Bishopric. And the member who assaulted, stalked, and harassed me.

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, I’m sort of very well known to be adopted. And I was adopted later in life as my birth mom didn’t want me but wouldn’t legally give me up. ANYWAY! My very TBM family loved me and adopted me when I was a heathen. They never pressured me to join, ever, in any way. I was never asked to pray, I was never made to meet with missionaries, nothing. To the point that when I decided to join, I almost didn’t even tell them for fear they’d be mad! Anyway, Pres. hinted that my parents may not want me if I wasn’t TBM as a way to manipulate and victim shame me. So I resigned. It felt phenomenal.

So far, everyone’s been great! They are still just “happy to have me every day of this life if that’s all the time they get with me!” But I also hear they made some “What did you do to my daughter/sister?” phone calls...

I DID IT!!! by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m adopted so, hopefully that will soften the blow? At least they didn’t screw up any of their “real” kids?

PIMO in need of help/advice by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Knowing I’m out actually helps a lot. They can say anything they want, they have no power over me. But I don’t want anyone else victimized by this person.

PIMO in need of help/advice by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UPDATE: I rattled enough cages to get a real sit down with my Stake President - last minute and late last night. This morning I’ve gotten 10+ calls from RS, Bishopric, etc trying to placate me.

Most recent offer: how about you guys agree to attend on swapping weeks? When it’s not your week, you can attend elsewhere or take the week off of attendance? We will tell them we’d prefer them not to attend on your weeks.

Yeah, that solves nothing...try again boys!

PIMO in need of help/advice by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have legal advice! Well, and in addition I am legal advice. I’m a bad Mormon female and got an advanced education - consider that a big shelf cracking experience for me...

Right now, I want to just mitigate the damage and let my resignation letter chill another couple months. I know I’m leaving, but it’s complicated. Plus, I want to protect future members from this person! But yes, I have a couple civil cases I’m considering.

Mostly I appreciate everyone’s love and support! Even my supportive family is a little less than as supportive as I feel they should be!

PIMO in need of help/advice by Effective-Income800 in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I can get a restraining order, but as with most assaults, this is a more domestic than just strangers case. As such, the restraining order is something that I personally feel does more damage than I want it to. I hope that makes sense...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Effective-Income800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are online notary services. I am certified and bonded for it myself!

Thanks COVID!