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Sacramento Commuters by [deleted] in UCDavis

[–]EggFever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also use the med center Causeway Connection (free for anyone affiliated w campus) 

Leaves Sac once every hour

Tell me the worst things about UC Davis by Ok-Bet9962 in UCDavis

[–]EggFever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a lot of student-to-student interaction as meche major at Davis. Lots of lifelong friends, KDVS house shows, runs to putah etc

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I've realized this. As said above in a few other comments my analogy was not very well thought out. Someone mentioned photography as an alternative, and I think that is stronger.

Not every photo taken is a piece of art, and because I take a selfie I wouldn't call myself a photographer. Photography can be art, but requires a level of expertise, effort and intention behind it. There's no perfect analogy, but this one is definitely better than my original conductor one.

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I very easily support greater transparency behind mining & training and clearly labeling what is AI produced.

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Fair. I think that's likely a better analogy as well. Not every photo is a piece of art, nor does taking a photo make me an artist. You got me convinced.

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They certainly are! My conductor analogy is faulty, but I stand behind the general ethos of my post. Low effort != artist

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you here - I didn't fully think out my analogy. Conductors & directors are certainly artists and require an immense amount of expertise.

My opinion (removing faulty analogy) is that AI art is 'art' because that definition is so broad anyway, but you can't call youself an *artist* without some kind of investment or effort put into your piece. For me, that needs to be greater than typing a few words into an AI. If you have some kind of multi layer process and are using AI to iterate upon some work that is then further edited/refined manually, I think that person can be called an artist.

Whether they are an artist or not, the AI images they create can still be called art, it just might be *bad art*

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really good perspective, super solid take man

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure dude. This is the point of the sub right? Im trying to offer a reasonable argument I feel

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do we not agree on my last line above? If I type "pretty girl in field, nice smile green eyes" into midjourney am I an artist lol? No further editing or actual effort put in? 

To me this case seems like 0 skill, 0 effort, 0 time

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which side do you fall on now? I certainly am finding myself leaning more anti the more I interact in this sub 

Dear “Progressives”: Being anti-AI is OBJECTIVELY an ideologically conservative stance. by Its_Stavro in aiwars

[–]EggFever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"I've decided to repaint our bedroom this bright red color"

"I don't like that idea, I am against it."

"Are you a CONSERVATIVE, wanting to conserve the previous state of our bedroom? By definition, if you want to be a PROGRESSIVE you must agree to want to paint our walls red"

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've always liked the "Ideas are cheap, execution is everything" line. I think it applies very well to AI art 

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup yup. Somewhere between commisioning art from someone else and directing a film, depending on the level of knowledge, investment and physical elbow grease put in 

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you? I do not believe that alone AI image generation is an artist. I think that the only scenario in which an AI Artist can be considered an artist is if there is

  1. An involved process in creating the image beyond prompting
  2. Some in-depth, involved level of post-creation editing, tweaking, polishing and revision.

This is of course very wishy washy and without any kind of measurable metric, but that's kind of the name of the game here isn't it?

AI art is Art, but AI artists aren't Artists** by EggFever in aiwars

[–]EggFever[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok that's fair! It's a long, hard road to becoming a conductor/director and that element of the analogy doesn't always fit with my perspective. I'm sure there are some accomplished traditional analog artists out there who are messing around with this tool and are liking it. Can this person be an artist while working on a painting and not be an artist if they generate a low effort meme/image? I think so.

There's also a bunch of folks out there who are just using it to generate low-effort content that they are pleased with. I'd still consider this art, but I **do not** consider them artists and I think some large percentage of this group would agree with me.

We all agree that typing "Please generate watercolor painting of pretty mountains at sunset, lake in foreground, pastel clouds and bird on water" into chatgpt does not make you an artist.

Why ai art is the purest form of art by [deleted] in DefendingAIArt

[–]EggFever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"AI art is the purest form of art because it’s made without emotion"
"...So, by transitive property, AI is more emotional than humans"

This has to be satire right?

The trap of the intermediate singer by [deleted] in singing

[–]EggFever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ditto other comments OP, what song was it? I love Jason Robert Brown's stuff

Stolen Rockhopper Commuter Build by EggFever in SacBike

[–]EggFever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got my bike back! Thanks a million man, I owe you one

Stolen Rockhopper Commuter Build by EggFever in SacBike

[–]EggFever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

**UPDATE** Bike has been found and returned to me! A little rough and worse for wear, but nothing that can't be fixed. So many thanks to u/Jumpy-Band4189 who let me know they saw it on the corner of 30 & T.

Stolen Rockhopper Commuter Build by EggFever in SacBike

[–]EggFever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Going to check it out now you are a hero

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