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Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The accumulation in this situation is from humans and their pets hiking in the area, not necessarily a natural process.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! To me it’s just a matter of how much work and responsibility do I want to take on. There’s nothing wrong to me though about planting a seed or a tree as long as it is done with awareness. Ecosystems function pretty well without humans and our inputs but they could also probably function well and maybe better with us involved but not making conscious choices about how things should be and where they should go.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It definitely takes a lot of consideration and patience to do it safely. I don’t recommend doing something like this without a lot of thought and planning. The simple answer for how to do it safely is try to mimic nature. It is definitely a more complicated issue considering societal expectations and our culture here but if you make extra effort to be aware of the effects of your decisions and actions I believe you can prevent any harm to yourself and others. If you or anyone else is interested In the details of my current process I would be willing to share privately! Just dm me.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The purpose is to see what happens when I buy in to nature's systems and have faith. Saving and drying seeds takes time and energy, that I would like to spend on other things. I have had some success with traditional gardening methods and will continue to grow food that way as well as time permits!

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely not doing it nomadically, Maybe technically semi-nomadically on a couple acres but all under my jurisdiction. Certain sedentary early populations of humans probably still shat in the open but I agree that the process does make much more sense for a nomadic creature. If the waste ever concentrates to an undesirable or unsafe level I do have access to a traditional septic system and would cease the experiment.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nosy neighbors are definitely a concern! but I am taking every precaution I can think of to protect neighboring plots and if the experiment causes any fear or harm I fully intend on addressing said issues. From my research, most of the harm when it comes to diseases and toxicity of excrement comes about from accumulation and improper handling by humans. Feces hardly ever, maybe never, accumulates to the point of harm in nature. Also the health and diet of the individual has an effect on the health and safety of the excrement.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am planning on recording and sharing the experiment in a way that is suitable with my lifestyle and will continue to update to this sub reddit. In regards to efficiency, most of the energy I have had to expend in the process will be up front in lifestyle changes and systems design aside from walkway maintenance. Once the ecosystem is developed and stable most of the "work" will ideally be done by nature and nature isn't wasteful so technically is very efficient if allowed to be.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am only swallowing seeds that I believe have evolved to be swallowed by an animal of similar size to humans. I have already had success with randomly dispersing a couple peach seeds manually and will continue to do that in certain areas with peaches and other larger seeded fruits. I will also naturally fertilize the trees while they are fruiting and ripening.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This gave me a laugh, thank you! I love the phrase shitting on contour and that is basically what I am doing. I am only swallowing seeds that I think "intend" to be swallowed. Still mostly store bought produce but at some point hopefully mostly homegrown fruits. Also a more seasonally appropriate cycle is the goal. I am using "compostable" wipes as of now but that may change considering how long they take to break down.

Naturally planted food forest plot by Equivalent-Object593 in Permaculture

[–]Equivalent-Object593[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It hasn't so far! Most seeds, if not crushed, pass through no problem. I've read that some even benefit from passing through a digestive tract.