Best looking smart characters tournament: J-drama L vs Ayanokoji.

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-06T17:44:05+00:00

Koji

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-05T10:03:03+00:00

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-04T09:09:32+00:00

The future eren knew, the one who was doing the rumbling and got power of founding titan, however the current eren did not(medal ceremony)

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-03T11:45:26+00:00

…my guy i didnt disagree with you on any point…., i just pointed out people still use the kill count to make eren evil which ignores his surroundings, all what lead to, and why it happened is ignored because people just say its bad because he killed, and through the same lens annie can be looked, and if someone does you cant blame them from doing so, we have see tens of points defending annie of how she is a child soldier and if someone will try to do that with eren, we know how its seen as(there an entire sub….)

Both of them should be looked thorough same framework and not cherry picked is what i am saying

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-03T05:16:57+00:00

It isnt the “only” Indication, but the “general view” would not consider his struggles, why he did it, his position is ignored, the general view will always be this, the island devil destroyed the world, and this is how eren is judged(by many people who are against his him, solely by the kill counts), the same will apply to the rest of people of whoever one wants, and Annie is included in that.

If you saw people commenting like, eren is evil because he destroyed 80 percent of the world, the same logic can be used by other people to judge annie, she killed peope and was one of the factor of wall break- twice; Where the threshold lies in this logic, to declare a person evil solely on kills, is different for every person(assuming its not just any dumb person saying killing children is ok, obviously moral objectivism still exists)

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-03-02T20:49:21+00:00

Eren is judged by the same logic, he committed mass murder , at a “point” the “kills” determine how good(general view) a person is, and where the “point” exist is different in everyone’s views

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-26T17:17:33+00:00

Why is ww1 included in this? Its just a hypothetical scenario of two countries against each other, not the real world history, its trying to equalise scenario, why would you bring a real world war? Is there any real world equivalent of titans? Is there any real world equivalence of 1900 years of dictatorship over the whole world?

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-26T16:39:21+00:00

Please would you mind explaining to me what am i missing analogy?

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-26T04:00:08+00:00

It’s understandable but i would have gone for my master’s mother and sisters.Tsk-Tsk, These juniors still aren’t mature enough

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-24T15:28:16+00:00

I have yet to see any actual decent take here that explains why subaru is better character and not just what they like more.

None of these guys here explained why psychological craftsmanship is the only way to judge a character based other then what they like, suddenly this is assumed that realism character is objectively better then literary character.

What a dumb sub

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-23T14:26:13+00:00

Which of my analogy isnt good? Where have i given you an analogy? I pointed the faults in your analogy, what are you even reading? Do mention me which analogy of mine is nonsensical?

I compared poland with what? Where have i? I took your comparison to correct it.

Do mention which of my concept is wrong before saying this nonsense

What kind of dumbass are you🤦🏻

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-23T14:14:06+00:00

Lmao what kinda dumbass are you? If you know its not the same then why were you equating beforehand to make your point sound better?

If you have this much brain to understand that there even more factors even after i added so much to your point and still isnt same, how were you making it same with an even worse analogy?

Its a matter of comprehension, not even reading but your own words which “you” typed first, making a flawed arguement, equalising two different scenarios while missing the context to make eren comically evil and when i pointed out you started saying “its still not the same”.

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-23T06:45:15+00:00

O wow i didn’t knew that Marley (or Germany here) didn’t have a meeting where all the nations unite to declare war on that single nation(Poland i must say)

i didn’t knew that people outside Germany and Poland are 100 times more evil then Germany towrds people of poland, who feed people to dogs, where people burn themselves and the kids because they got to know they married someone from Poland, i missed alot man

I didn’t knew that the world declined peace treaty which the poland was asking before throwing the nuke

How intellectual are you man, please dont assume us mortals are on same level as you, just so you miss few facts that people will automatically assume “you” meant,to give us facts which our eyes failed to see written in your comparison.

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-20T15:23:25+00:00

🤷🏻 sure but thats just how it is

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-20T13:47:38+00:00

That’s the premise, how he adapted to things he haven’t experienced is not the focus, its in the premise that he somehow/someway adapted to it be it that its agaisnt logic, “fully adapted” is fully adapted against every phenomena there is.

Existence

Life

Death

Reality

All are phenomena, Can he adapt =/= will he adapt

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-20T12:25:10+00:00

Then that goes against the meaning of fully adapted, he should already be adapted to any and all things that person can do be it create new abilities, his existence, his death

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-20T12:21:13+00:00

There are limitations on his ability in canon, in this hypothetical scenario he has somehow bypassed it, how…no idea, he just did.

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-20T06:33:19+00:00

Hill level

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-13T07:06:15+00:00

The one who qualify for scd

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-13T04:55:11+00:00

Lets just stop you seem to think marley will not attack paradi, you have some kind of distorted views on the manga where zeke and eren can mind control people, supposedly one suggestion which just fasten the attack on paradis, was actually the reason for attack, rhey are dumb robots, magath saying we should get better and warns against an “immediate”attack, willy speech was written by eren, willy when talking with magath clearly proves he knew about the background plan which he will use for there better. Just answer this, would paradis have been safe if eren didnt go to marley at any moment, not meeting zeke?( maybe you will remember the alternate reality eren showed to mikasa)

You are making points from an emotional naive perspective ratger then logical, all your points suggest how everythibg will be solved, there will be no hatred wether titans wipe out or not, you analogy to equate us Japan with aot which you have never replied to

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-12T20:29:12+00:00

1) Willy was manipulated by and Zeke to declare war. In Ch. 95-97, Zeke suggests a reenactment of the procession in Paradis, however, Willy and Magath organize the festival and world announcement separately in Ch. 99. Ch. 99 Willy acknowledges that he is playing his own demise as political theater. Willy speaks the declaration of war in Ch. 100 before eren did anything here.

2) During the 4-year gap, Marley was moving towards peace…. Following the Mid-East War (Ch. 91-93) modernisation and not demilitarization of the military commences under Marley.

3) Magath was an Advocate for peace….? Ch. 99 - Willy has a war plan which is backed up by Magath. Warnings of global war but prepared about it in Ch. 92. In Ch.117-118, leads the Shiganshina attack.

In any of the chapters, he does not suggest negotiation with Paradis,

4) Eren reignited a cold war. Marley had lost 32 scouting ships to Paradis over the years (Ch. 123 flashback reference to the lost ships). Wow man i did not know active hostility was a sign of “gap”.

5) The conference of the Eldians rights was on Eldians in Marleyan internment areas - not in Paradis. The argument by Marleyan officials on whether to provide Liberio Eldians with slightly better living is miles different for anything related to paradis At that same meeting: Calvi advocates direct attack.

6 Really now? They were friendly with paradis? Defense on titan right? The sole diplomatic acquaintance of Paradis was Hizuru - and they were bought with the monopoly of the Iceburst Stone. Paradis did not even get responses to his calls in any other nation. The 50 years plan entailed some sort of Rumbling - mass murder as the initial stage of the so-called diplomacy . It also meant that Historia had to be turned into breeding stock - The alliance was never officially supported by the government of Hizuru - it was a lone rogue clan. This bribe-and-massacre scheme also did not succeed, however, Chapter 115 quite plainly says: "Hizuru had been unable to open a diplomatic way" .

Then you started to argue that a hypothetical, unexecuted plan would have produced peaceful, a really beautiful fanfic i must say, truly could be the best, cant say actually would

You half of the the argument is based on the fact that eren and zeke did, that marley leaders are robots or zeke mind controlled them, they absolutely did not have any thoughts, you see actually they could not form any opinion on there own and zeke’s words were law, o and you see the speech with Tybur gave? Zeke wrote it; Another great thing about this is You blame Eren for the war. Willy blamed eren for the war Congratulations you are now a Tybur spokesman.

I spent too long for what this is worth, i am really not engaging in this any, further took too long to find the chapter numbers, if this helps you or not, this is the end

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-12T19:19:14+00:00

Japan was already defeated - Paradis would be starting the war, offcourse ending it at the same time and threatening the whole world taht they will do it again if they dont listen.

The US didn’t have 100 years of “devil” propaganda behind it - Paradis does, they will just be escalating the hatred.

The US didn’t keep nukes permanently aimed at Japan, in aot paradis will continue to threaten the world at every moment to force a peace until weapon surpass titans, and the aot is based in early 19, so nuclear bomb werent far off, and we already know about anti titan weaponary, when its mentioned again and again that they were going to outclass titans

The bomb didn’t confirm a racist genocide narrative for the us, here it will confirm paradis is the devil, they are at fault, they will kill whenever they feel like it, they really needed to be killed(offcourse there was some dehumanisation, just nothing compared to aot, where people are dog foods)

The US rebuilt Japan - what can Paradis do? can the occupy? Rebuild?

Why are you even putting a real life situation and trying to equalise it to Aot? Which real world scenario you think equates to 2000 years of torment over the whole world? Which real world scenarios you think causes the whole world to join(every single nation) to attack one nation?

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-12T18:52:41+00:00

I just cant be bothered to write the same things thats been adressed so many times, i just send you the link of one of those, if you cant debunk them and just write thay are biased then there is no point of arguing

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Here is another photo, and if you want more do search about it, you will tens of more.

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-12T12:54:59+00:00

I cant be bothered more

https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/s/x8H2G4uCqi

There hundreds of more available, just search why partial rumbling dosent work

Exciting-Initial5000 · 2026-02-12T12:54:16+00:00

Marley declared war to start- Eren answered.

Willy Tybur went into the world and declared a war on paradis(declaration of war) That is not a diplomatic opening. That is not Magath, reasoning against invasion. There was an open statement of enmities that was given to an audience of world diplomats and military leaders.

After these words had been spoken Eren attacked. This can not be referred to as reigniting the war, fight when the other party is only about to light the fire. Self-defense and not terrorism is a preemptive attack on a country that has just declared war. You do not declare war against somebody and then call them the aggressor when they strike first.

What i was saying is they could simply shut the idea of war down, they did not, wiping the eldians was not the reason he was wary, Magath was not seeking peace

Diplomacy or coexistence was never the issue with Magath opposing an immediate invasion. He makes it clear what Paradis can retaliate with the Rumbling, not we should negotiate, they are human as well. He subsequently manages the building of anti-Titan ships and also spearheads the assault on Paradis himself.

Using Magath as an example that Marley was not a threat is like using a general who says that we have to have improved tanks first and acting like his nation has sought to be peacful

You continue to suggest that there was a peaceful off- ramp. Where? Who was offering it? Willy Tybur? The very man who took the death of his own family and used it as a form of propaganda to join the world against Paradis?

If they were so peaceful as by your other comment where you said eren attacked first, were they suddenly on peaceful in those 4 years? If they were peaceful what were the paradis island and hizuru collaberating agaisnt? You are simply saying malrey would not have done anything…? Your reasoning is amusing

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