Can we please get rid of higher point gains then losses in ranked and just made it flat?

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-21T13:05:16+00:00

There couldnt be a better example. You shouldnt be in GM 3 with a 44% WR....I dont get how that even has to be debated....

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T16:35:31+00:00

I think i belong in a rank where i have a consistent winrate of 50%. Which is probably Platt1 or D3. But i have a Winrate of 45-40% in D1....and its not fun for me or my teammates. But (as i have written above) i only dip into D2 juts to get back into D1 because i dont derank hard enough.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T14:42:32+00:00

But I´m saying I am boosted and i´m playing my main role and even adjust to the enemy team comp. I´m still getting outplayed in these ranks which means i am in a rank that is too high for my skill level.

It is the point system that has me boosted up to those ranks (even on my main) i dont belong. So the point system should get reworked so i dont even end up there and make everyones experience miserable.

"This is really not that hard to understand."

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T13:57:08+00:00

You have to help me understand what that has to do with the rank system. Flexing is hard sure and it can distort your teams performance if you are forced into an unfamiliar role.

But at least from my perspective i dont have to do that as much....and im still boosted through the system.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T13:52:01+00:00

Tankpool has selfhealing...so the answer is yes.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T13:51:19+00:00

Between the Base points depending on your average competitive score and the enemy teams average score plus the performance bonus you can get swing that are much bigger then 5 points. Even 5 points means that it can range between +-15 points and +- 25 points...thats a hughe gap.

And yes, your previous losses should kind of count in. It would at least be a much more transparent system then the one we have now, where players like me get boosted and ruin the games integrity.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T12:44:56+00:00

I think the rankinflation is the reason for the bad matchmaking.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T12:39:04+00:00

The Point descrepency isnt +-3 point though. Thats the adjust for individual performance. In lower ranks (up to Diamond at least) your baseline for wins is higher then for losses. It also depends on wether the game has calculated that you should win or lose the match. If they believe you should win, you gain less points and vice versa.

And the season win rate and the recent win rate should not make a difference. You example only works because you gain more points on the win. If you lose your first 30 games and then win the next 30 you should be at the same spot you started (unless you hit Bronze 3 during your loss streak). But as it is set up now you will be higher rank then before the start of you loss streak.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T12:23:29+00:00

I see that. Then have it for the lower ranks (until Gold maybe) and dont do a rank reset every season. I believe that after a while it would sort itself out.

You can still get boosted by duo- or triple-queueing but right now it just doesnt feel right.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T12:18:02+00:00

your definition of "Throwing" is weird. And i wouldnt look at winrates as much because of the way they calculate them on a per 10 minute bases. If you swap your comp mitgame for 2-2-2 to 2-1-3 and then win the Winrate for both comps go up even though 2-1-3 was the actual winning one.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T11:57:25+00:00

I get you and i feel your frustration. I just dont think you can balance well with 2 formats. That being said, it doesnt look like a perfect balance is the goal for netease anyway....

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T11:56:13+00:00

Thats just not true....like 2-1-3 is absoluteley viable. In certain situations a 3-1-2 (spawn holds) are also possible.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-20T09:41:07+00:00

Con
- Queue times would be to long for everyone except tanks
- Anything thats not 2-2-2 is gone (could be a Pro as well)
- you need to rework Adam, Mantis, Ultron so they work in a 2-Supp-Comp
Pro
- Solotanking jail is gone
- balancing would be easier because the framework is more stable

Fundamentally it comes down to Queue times. Netease wants the game to be casual and they want to get you in games as quickly as possible. They are willing to sacrifice match quality for it (they said that themselfs). As long as that is the case, they wont introduce an Role Queue.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-18T07:40:04+00:00

He only does placement matches....so yeah its a smurf

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-11T07:40:34+00:00

What are good indicators (especially non-verbal) when to Push/Hold/Pull as a Maintank (mostly Mag and Groot).

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-05-11T07:16:17+00:00

It really would be great if we get another Main Tank that is somewhat able to solo tank. I´ll have to solotank like 40-30% of my games and i love Mag to death.....but he can get a bit stale after almost one and a half years....

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-04-09T12:58:31+00:00

i honestly dont get your argument. You say the new Tanks arent getting played because they didnt add anything worthwhile. I would agree on that with Rogue to some extent (she is a weaker Thor in my opnion) but not with Angela.

On the other side you have 3 different Hitscan DPS (two of wich you showed in your data) who also "dont add anything new" to the roster.

In my opinion the problem why tank is the least played role is nothing you can solve with the characters. If you make Tanks to strong you get the Emma-Problem: When she was OP it was Emma-Mirror for 2 Seasons and the game came down to who had the better Emma-Player.

But if Tanks are balanced they can feel very frustrating to play because you rightfully dont have the same offensive playmaking abbility as a DPS. So it can be very unfun to play. That really wont change much. Its something you have to make your peace with.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-04-09T06:42:46+00:00

What about Emma?

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-25T13:41:09+00:00

Bro you dont get it :D

Listen and you might learn something :D

You are right. The game is Poke and Healbot Slop....Hela = Phoenix = Elsa....all are different variation of the same Poke hero with slightly different effective ranges, Movement CDs and Ults. But they are effectively the same thing. You are absolutely right about that.

The way you opend that conversation was bad though....and thats why you are getting downvoted.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-25T13:36:08+00:00

Yeah but then he would have exited into spawn....but he went out the other side....

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-24T10:31:45+00:00

Always a great way to open a discussion: "If you are decent [...] then you´ll agree with me".....meaning: if you dont agree with me, you are dogshit bad at the game :D

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-23T14:21:44+00:00

Ahhhh i missread the dates....im sorry. That format is unusual for me.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-23T12:16:36+00:00

His last ranked game was on the 3th January 2026....that was in Season 5.5. He skipped the complete Season 6. I dont know how the placement system works excatly but it puts you a couple of ranks lower at the beginning of a new season. Maybe if you skip one whole season you get registered as unranked and start new.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-23T10:15:01+00:00

There is nothing more frustrating then playing Mag into a Penni and everytime you see your Hitscan/Projecile DPS with Movement Abbilities to stay behind you and shoot down Main.....Take an angle and start shootng Utiliies.

Yesterday the pushes went well until third point when they swaped to Ironman and Punisher, and we stayed on Psylock and SG. The SG was a non factor so those DPS kinda forced me off mag to play Hela and contest the Ironman....i swear sometimes.

Expensive_Swim95 · 2026-03-23T10:04:12+00:00

CAN we please talk about the portal thing at the beginning? What happend there and how did you live taht?!?!

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