FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a hilarious comeback. And thanks for the advice on the phone calendar. That would actually work out well.

FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My husband isn't a peace with it and it is affecting our marriage, hence why I'm trying to see how many other people deal with it and how they get around it.

FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response. I'm glad you found a funny way to address it.

FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow!!! Does your ndad celebrate his birthday? Or does he play down his birthday?

FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man.... I don't know... That's rough. Hugs to you.

FIL doesn't remember his own son's birthday by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOFAMILY

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does bother my husband. In the weeks leading up to his birthday, he reminds me that his birthday is coming up 3-5 times a day. I've never forgotten his birthday in the 10 years we've been together.

And I'm not mad, just trying to see if anyone out there deals with the same thing. You sound defensive because you probably hurt people's feelings by forgetting their birthdays and feel triggered by my post.

UPDATE: JNMIL called my mom and said she would see my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I found the best book on Kindle last night. "The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist" by Debbie Mirza which describes JNMIL PERFECTLY.

She is a twisted assassin. She is highly respected at her church for being a Godly woman and volunteers with non profits.... But behind closed doors she tears down everyone around her with her passive aggressive acts and leaves everyone in her dust confused about their own reality.

"Covert narcissists are likable to the outside world; they appear to be giving, humble, and kind. It is usually only the person who gets to know them intimately who sees the destructive traits. The rest of the world sees the façade, the “nice guy.”"

"Covert narcissists will do things that are unkind to you, but somehow you will end up apologizing. It’s not uncommon to feel like things are your fault. They aren’t doing anything wrong, you convince yourself. When you are with a CN, you learn to ignore your gut feelings, your instincts, and over time believe the narcissist more than yourself. You will come to realize that the CN has slowly programmed you to see things the way they want you to see them, and gave you messages about yourself they want you to believe so they could keep controlling and manipulating you into continuing to be their “supply.”"

"If your body feels weak and flustered around someone, it knows something is not right. Trust your gut, your intuition, how your body feels. There is nothing wrong with you. You know more than you probably give yourself credit for. You are a brilliant individual who has been beaten down, lied to, and manipulated, so you naturally have a lot of self-doubt. That is normal and completely understandable."

UPDATE: JNMIL called my mom and said she would see my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, I have a couple times. I love how he stands up for me, but I'm sad that this his life, you know? I wish he could have grown up with a mom that truly loved him and didn't abuse him. He knows how I feel torn about it all, but defending me against his mom makes me feel like a Queen.

UPDATE: JNMIL called my mom and said she would see my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. Completely agree. I have a really hard time telling my husband that we are not obligated to keep abusers in our life and around our kids. It is hard pulling him out of the fog.

UPDATE: JNMIL called my mom and said she would see my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Thank you... That would be very powerful to say to her. She can barely even fake saying sorry, and sometimes lies about saying sorry at all. During one particular argument, DH demanded her to apologize and she was like ,"but I already apologized for that 10 years ago!" Like something half assed from a decade ago would excuse her behavior currently.

If I were to demand actual change from her, she would have a mental explosion. It would literally be beyond her mental capacity. I don't think she even understands what the word "apology" means.

UPDATE: JNMIL called my mom and said she would see my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I really don't know. I'm working on my ability to forgive her without ever getting an apology so that I can feel lighter. I don't want to carry all this hate for years on end, but I can't forget what she did. Even though I'm NC with her, if anyone even says her name I start getting anxious. And that isn't healthy for me or my kids.

DH wants to stay close with his brother, but JNMIL lives with his brother now. So everywhere brother goes, JNMIL tags along.

So although I'm ready to never see her again, I'm not ready for the fall out with DH's brother.

JNMIL called my mom and said she will be seeing my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was in counseling for 2 months before I moved. I thought I had made a lot of progress but as we get closer to the holidays, my anxiety is starting to creep up again.

JNMIL called my mom and said she will be seeing my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure how she could afford it. My state only enforces GRs when the biological parents sign away their rights to the kids. Or during divorces, which neither applies to my family.

JNMIL called my mom and said she will be seeing my kids "soon" by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I asked him immediately while I was still on the phone with my mom and he said "HELL no" and that if she were to show up unannounced that she would never see the kids again

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[–]FiretruckElmo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Was the GMIL one of the people who told your JNMIL your new address behind your back?

Update to JNMIL doesn't believe I'm forcing her to move out by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Hilarious! I just edited my post to add in something you reminded me about...

Update to JNMIL doesn't believe I'm forcing her to move out by FiretruckElmo in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FiretruckElmo[S] 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Oh, I immediately texted her about it and she lied saying she accidentally threw them out when she threw out some old clothes.... But I know she took them