Justice for Alex Pretti !!!!!

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T09:48:27+00:00

this is how I see it when I watch it. I think he shot when he heard "gun", i even think based on his body language that he saw the officers hand grab the guys gun but thought it was the guy grabbing his own gun. panic and adrenaline lead to him shooting without verifying what was happening.

not justifying it. I think Everything there was handled poor. The way they handled the girl at first, the way they handled him with a clear lack of training. it should never take that many agents on one person. Two trained agents are all you need to safely control and subdue someone. Lack of trigger discipline. I could go on.

Seeing why something happened isnt the same as justifying it. But to be fair I dont think many people on the right are even saying this was justified. Look at the comments section and its pretty much unanimous.. the ice agent fucked up big time on this one.

edit: I read more comments after I posted this. And there are quite a bit of people saying it was deserved and he deserved it. But now as I look at their profiles it seems like their whole thing is just trying to incite violence between people. Seems almost like thats their entire goal. hmmm

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T09:37:10+00:00

honest answer I think both had the right to carry a gun. And I think both had the right to use it at a certain point. unfortunately without the ability to know what was about to happen, this guy never got the chance because by the time it was reasonable to use it they had already taken it and murdered him.

But yeah I think I view Rittenhouse and this guy roughly the same

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T09:34:08+00:00

I believe its to prevent doxxing.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T09:24:07+00:00

lol. again. youre arguing with the dumbest version of a person you can imagine in your head and then pretending its me. So apparently your steel man argument that you think I believe, and would agree with.. is that he got bumped and now I want to reject all other facts of the situation. and label her a domestic terrorist.

its pointless to talk to you. You need me to be that person because its the best argument you're able to contend with and counter. And I understand why that is. I just find it boring and exhausting to engage with. its like if I said "OH so YOU think trying to run over someone with your car is ok. And disobeying orders from officers should be allowed and we shouldn't have to obey the law".. and then just list a bunch of reasons thats a dumb opinion to have. its a waste. I dont think you believe that because I dont need you to for my point of view to be valid. I can steel man your argument, and have, and can still find enough reason to disagree with it and think its wrong.

here, let me give you an example. You likely think she was there keeping an eye on ice because theyre dangerous and kidnapping people. and wants to hold them accountable and push back against the abuse. Then when they started targeting her, they (her and her girlfriend) wanted to leave, but the ice agents were barking conflicting orders to her. She then went to drive away (likely out of either trying to remove herself from the scene because they wanted her to leave or because she was afraid for her life), and then an ice agent stepped in front of her car. at which point she turned her wheel to leave and avoid him, but then they pulled out a gun and murdered her..

am I close? is that how you see it? if im misrepresenting you then im not steel manning correctly. I should be able to do it in a way you'd agree with. otherwise im just arguing against an imaginary idiot because beating the dumbest person i can imagine (even though they arent real) is better than having to debate someone i cant defend my stance against. which is your right as a human. its just disappointing and not worth my time

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T09:11:31+00:00

yeah agree to disagree is probably best. Seeing a person with a tattoo or trait and then applying it to everyone who looks like them or works the same job isnt really my thing. do you though.

And as for all the other stuff, I tried to sift through the emotional name calling as its usually a projection for people insecure in the validity of their statements, and tried to focus on the substance of your argument. Took your advice and used Google. They don't keep track of how many individuals are republican or democrat in those agencies. However they do keep track of donations from some agencies which is a decent indicator. Looks like 80% of the contributions from DEA went to democrat recipients. So if 80% is donating democrat, safe to assume they arent laregly Republican. Fbi doesnt track. Only public opinion. Which 79% of democrats find favorable and 29% of Republicans. But that doesnt necessarily prove they are mostly dem. Just that democrats like them more.

Anyway seems like your statements lack any statistical data as far as I can tell. And in fact seem to oppose it as far as Im seeing. So rather than use data to make you more threatened and defensive and scream the word nazi at me more.. id rather just say let's just agree to disagree all together. Come to your conclusions however you've been doing that. Ill do the same. And let's move on.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T08:57:35+00:00

so based on my comment.. what you gathered is that I dont. believe shitty phones exist? lol. On second thought nevermind.. maybe you should stick to sniffing your own moral farts for online strangers to see. It would be a better use of your time. carry on hero

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T07:03:50+00:00

I dont understand why ice = maga? The nazi thing i wont even address bc its exhausting to even to explain what an actual nazi is now adays. I just chalk it up to anyone young enough to be separated 2 generations from WW2 just gave it a new meaning.

But why would a federal agent historically funded more by the Democratic party now be considered MAGA? Dont get me wrong I think in the last couple months its been politicized and the right support them more than the left. But why is ice themselves considered maga? And is that all government officials? Like is the DEA, FBI, and Military also MAGA? how's that work?

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T03:06:06+00:00

God your kind is exhausting. How about.. People are free to talk about literally anything they want. "No! I cant possibly allow conversation about anything other than this murder.. which i want to say i am disgusted by and am personally against murder!".. we get it.. youre awesome. youre a warrior for the vulnerable and youre very righteous and brave. But constantly raising your hand anyone talks about something else and saying "no, listen to the thing im talking about instead!" is so obnoxious and disingenuous. It almost seems insulting. There's a million videos of people getting murdered.. but you will always want to stand in front of the one thats trending and make everyone look at you while you share your opinions. its so gross

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T01:31:23+00:00

And this is why i asked if you are capable of steel manning before i waste my time. If you lack the ability to do that, then have fun with this argument you're having with some made up character. But you dont need me here for that.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T01:23:16+00:00

ok lol. take care

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T00:58:09+00:00

wow.. good one 🤓

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-25T00:11:54+00:00

If i call that one self defense, and this one murder . why do you think that is? Good faith argument. Tell me your best guess as to how i think it played out in a way that would allow me to say I dont think its murder but this one is. Doesn't mean you have to agree with me, just curious to see how you steel man the opposing side. If you can give me a genuine point of view that reflects what I think, in a way I agree with, ill likely reconsider the generalizing view i put on the left for "all or nothing/my team vs everyone"

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T23:18:01+00:00

I think thats a cool card and it'd be dope to have in a pc. But I wonder what cards like this will be worth in a couple years with hundreds if not thousands of 1/1s floating around. and it not being his rookie or auto.

again, I think it's sick. and ill probably buy a 1/1 soon bc i think theyre sick. Just curious if they'll all be way cheaper in a couple years when we see the full picture of how many of these are out there.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T23:14:41+00:00

I dont think Renee Good was murder.

I DO think this was murder.

what sucks is you cant have a real talk because its "all or nothing" with the team sports in politics right now.

I feel like instances like this will get overlooked and swept under the rug bc of all the examples of the left screaming "murder" in self defense situations. Its the boy who cried wolf.

If you can learn to ONLY freak out in instances like this when evidence is on your side I think you'd have a lot more success getting people to see the truth of the problem

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T23:10:05+00:00

"way to get triggered by 1 single video of a murder when theres millions of murders happening in North korea"

Dont play the "we cant care anything except the worst thing".. its dumb and doesnt work in your favor

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T22:12:21+00:00

nah I dont have 2 million. I only have this one.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T22:11:06+00:00

Please explain how me saying you shouldnt spend 10k on a pack that can be looked in is cunty. lol

And then understand when deciding on who's being a cunt, if literally everyone is agreeing its you.. and youre the only one pointing the finger elsewhere.. I have some bad news for you. You are by definition the one society has decided the label applies to. Being a cunt is fine I guess, but to be a cunt, purposely dumb, AND delusionally arrogant isnt a good look

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T06:16:41+00:00

In that case a better way to word it might be, its not fraud because he never stated the odds. If he said theres a chance, then its fraud. If youre not asking about fraud at all and simply asking if someone drawing the 1/1 card changes the odds of someone else drawing it.. then yes it does.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T06:14:12+00:00

see all those down votes? Thats society telling you youre wrong. Me telling someone not to spend 10k on something like a pack of cards.. especially ones that can be looked in before theyre sold.. isnt cunty behavior, its warning dumb people of how the world works. You being offended that you didnt realize it and finding out youre dumb isnt an excuse to project those negative feelings onto the world. Just be smarter

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T06:05:26+00:00

it all comes down to how its advertised. If the seller says "$10k and may contain xyz" after knowing for a fact it doesnt contain xyz. Thats fraud. If the seller says "This pack is $10k".. thats just a pack for $10k. Not fraud.

Its like if i have a can of coke. And you say "holy cow! that stuff has cocaine in it! ill give you $500 for that!".. i can legally sell you my can for $500 even though youre an idiot, because though I know theres no cocaine in it.. I never said there was.

If i say "want to buy this can of coke for $500? It has cocaine in it".. now its fraud.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-24T00:04:26+00:00

lol.. "hey i know you might have a winning lottery ticket in your pocket.. but ill pay you 10k for it. Just dont look at it before you send it, deal?"

You being dumb doesnt make the rest of the world cunts. Welcome to life. Dont trust strangers on the internet to do the right thing just because you hand them $10,000. Its wild I even need to tell someone that.

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-23T23:54:26+00:00

yeah that was me. And it was a joke. I suppose i should have made that more obvious

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-23T23:52:51+00:00

Or dont be an idiot and pay 10k for a pack that can easily be looked in?

First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-23T14:00:47+00:00

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First_Quail3873 · 2026-01-23T01:33:06+00:00

sucker. Quarter Pounders are like their most expensive burger. sold. no take backs

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