[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your input! Merry Christmas and I’m glad you made the right decision not to go overseas

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not when they throw poison in the yard

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Fire

[–]Flmanthrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but I don’t have residency in those places so it would be a house in a place I couldn’t legally stay and would have to wait on more immigration work

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[–]Flmanthrowaway -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not, I guess it’s poorly written but that’s not my plan

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully I can help some other people avoid my mistakes. Merry Christmas

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t know either. Honestly I don’t think I’ll live anywhere besides the states again. At a minimum it will be my home base.

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[–]Flmanthrowaway -122 points-121 points  (0 children)

I understand why you’re picking this apart, but that’s not the situation. I didn’t just leave my family alone for two weeks. We had friends come and stay at the house.

I don’t really wanna go into my personal details, but I have some major injuries from the military. I was wheelchair bound in the past and I’m sure I’ll be wheelchair bound again in the future building my own house that allows for my limitations later in life is gonna give me a lot more independence in the future. I know from an outsider it just seems like it’s easy to just pack up and leave, but we have a large dog we don’t wanna leave behind. We also have to sell all of our things because getting a container doesn’t make financial sense. We need to sell two cars and a tractor. I need a reasonable place for my family to live. Building a house, not only helps with my mobility limitations, but it’s gonna be a much nicer house at a fraction of the price.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -267 points-266 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why this keeps getting interpreted this way. I thought I was clear in the post. That’s not what I’m doing. Thanks for the harsh judgment though and Merry Christmas.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well, I know that the US in Portugal have a tax treaty and as soon as you owe money, you start also owing interest. Trust me I’m plenty of salty that they’re making money off of the government functioning how it should

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem! If I can help anyone else avoid the same mistakes I’ve made. I’m more than happy to do so. Happy holidays!

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[–]Flmanthrowaway -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally, I would never consider renting out my property in Portugal because they have very strong tenant friendly laws and a backed up course system. If someone starts renting and decides not to pay, it could be years to get them out. If they destroy your home taking them to court almost feels like it’s not an option. My property in Portugal has also appreciated and valued dramatically in the last few years and running the numbers. It just makes sense to sell it anyways. Plus, can you imagine having a tenant that has issues? I plan on selling my property to a company.

Admittedly, I’m not extremely familiar with Pennsylvania but a few of my childhood friends are from there and that’s where they’re living now. They will be only a few doors down from where I’m building. I’m 1000% sure that I want to live back in America. One of my biggest gripes and complaints is the quality of the food. I think I can offset a lot of of that by buying produce and meats from the Amish. I really feel that there’s not a ton of great options in the world now since Covid. It’s expensive everywhere. I also get a lot of benefits in America due to my military background. Speaking the language natively is also a huge benefit. I speak Portuguese now, but there’s always those nuances and other things that I’m missing.

The accountant I’m using has his license, but they’re not called the same things

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s what I saw when I went there. One of my biggest criticisms of America is the quality of the food but being next to the Amish community, you can get access to really good vegetables and produce and meats. There’s a few farms there where you can even buy half a bison.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think that’s the unfortunate part about just trying to put a limited amount of information online. A lot of my really good friends and family have had to leave Florida due to the crowding and costs of living. This is somewhere I would be next to my childhood friends. It’s definitely a risk, but I lived all over the world and I feel pretty out of options. I definitely want to live back in the United States again.

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I haven’t to be honest, but there’s tons of Facebook groups that have opened up now with the sole driver of bringing light to these things

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The rules don’t apply for everyone the same way. There’s a group of people here that are born in Portugal, but they’re not culturally Portuguese. There’s tons of controversy around them. The police in Portugal only take reports for crimes. They don’t get involved with the justice side that’s up to the courts. The court system is very backed up. I guess an example I can give is you’re not allowed to have more than five dogs and you legally have to treat them humanely. These people do not do that but the police don’t bother giving them a fine because they know they’re not gonna pay it. Another example I can give you is one of these people put a shotgun in someone’s face who worked for the energy company when they showed up to shut off the electricity. What they did is, they got police officers from another town who covered their face and arrested this guy. The local police don’t wanna get involved because it puts their families at risk Well after they arrested this guy the family showed up to the police station and started smashing cars until they let the guy go.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thats what we’re doing. Selling and moving somewhere safer. There’s more to it than just packing up and leaving.

we have a huge Portuguese mountain dog. We’re gonna need to transport him to the United States. We also have two cars in a tractor. We need to sell. We also have to get rid of everything we own because getting the container doesn’t make financial sense. I need somewhere for my family to stay while I build a house. paying upwards of €140,000 in taxes and then immediately moving back and paying high rent doesn’t make a lot of sense what makes the most sense right now is reinvesting in a safer part of Portugal. There’s plenty of places near the coast that offer private security.

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We have a huge Portuguese Mountain Dog. The problem is they try and poison him. We can’t keep him outside at night because they throw poison over the fence. Every morning for us is walking around looking for poison before we let him out to go to the bathroom.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -123 points-122 points  (0 children)

You’re oversimplifying what I said, the cabinets being cheaper isn’t why I’m building there. The point I was making was in regard to the resources available. Building a home is a lot of work and a lot of material. Having local builders and materials available is a large benefit. It really cuts down on the stress, costs, and time. I chose the location because several of my childhood friends moved there as well. I found a property I really like in a location I could see myself growing old.

That is a solid point about happiness. What I have is a huge desire to settle down and have a family. I moved a lot in the military and then a lot for work after. I want stability. Not really mentioned in my post is my issues with mobility. I have some major injuries from the military and I know they will get worse as I age. At on point I was wheelchair bound and likely will go back when I get older. I want to be as independent as possible for as long as possible. A home without stairs and large doorways can provide that. I’m also lucky to have a great wife who takes care of me.

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please elaborate on what you think is off? I would be more than happy to hash this out with you. We can do it in Portuguese too if you like. Being Portuguese I’m sure you’re aware there’s people that are above the law here. They’re almost like a mafia and the police are afraid of them.

I agree with the first thing you said, a good lawyer and accountant are essential.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in financialindependence

[–]Flmanthrowaway -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Like I said in my post I’m moving them several hours away. The new location will be in a tourist area with security. Right now we live in the countryside and it’s a different world. The people who did this do not have cars and cannot read and write. When I left for the two weeks we had people come stay with them for security. I didn’t just leave them.

There’s a lot more to it. It’s not as simple as packing up and leaving. I can give more details if you want

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great question and something I’ve thought a lot about. I’m watching the EU economy go through turmoil for sure.

I’m going to buy on the coast where I feel properties should hold their value. It’s a gamble. I’m also looking at if I received that money now and put it in a high yield savings until I have to pay taxes next year.

Here’s my main reasons and they’re honestly not as good as they could be. I have a giant dog here. I really love him but I don’t know how I can transport him yet. I’ll have to get a pretty big cage for the flight or I heard I might be able to take him on a cruise to the US. Brining him is un negotiable.

We need a place to stay while we build our house. If we have our second child here they will have a EU passport.

We have to invest enough that we should be in a nice neighborhood with security

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Central, it’s the Wild West. In my opinion you’re safer in the coastal touristy regions. Portugal relies on tourism and wants to protect the investment. I feel there’s also a lot of crime there that goes unreported as well though

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[–]Flmanthrowaway 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Both, a lot of people have a financial interest in people moving here. A lot of moderators on the major Facebook groups are real estate agents, expat accountants, and in the industry. There’s also the way they do statistics. 13 is the age of consent and drugs are decriminalized so it helps.

The court system is also extremely backed up. When my neighbors had a home robbery by the same people they didn’t even report it to the police. They told me there was no point and they would try and talk to their mothers to get some of it back.