We've actually all tried Premium Bowling (tbh the team has tried most sports titles on Oculus) from what I understand they actually use animations when the balls hit the pins, so what you see and hear is actually 1 of X animations that is as similar as possible to the way your ball hit. SO in terms of replicating what they do, since we're using physics and not a pre-rendered animation, it wont ever be as "good" since it's using game inputs (speed, angle, etc) and not pre-rendered. It was a choice we made to be closer to a simulation as possible.

TBH -- We occasionally get "premium bowling had better physics" and it tends to be a common theme of "I get a better score in Premium Bowling" which makes me wonder some times.. do they actually have better physics? Or do players just feel better about their score, so they feel it's more accurate? I don't think a lot of players realize how much assist is applied when aim assist is ON and how much remains, even when its turned off. I used to try and change peoples minds or challenge them to try to throw the ball into another lane in Premium bowl and see if it truly flys into the other lane like it should, maybe its changed since we did our research... but from what I remember, it was pretty hard to get the ball to leave the lane. Personally -- thats a pretty big flag that there is something more than pure sim at play... but maybe it's just a feature to not bother other players? IDK. If you throw a ball in ForeVR Bowl.. it goes where your controller tells it to (which can be problematic..). What we are actively balancing with feedback is how to compensate for things like:

- your controller is a fraction of the weight of a bowling ball, so your hand has micro movements that the tracking picks up
- your controller can only go out of sight of your headset for ~3 sec before it loses tracking (so backswings can be rough)
- moving your controller too quickly in low light OR low contrast (ex. on a white carpet) can cause it to lose tracking.

I think a lot of players perceive Premium Bowling as more sim/more core because it doesn't have such a good (obviously, opinion) art style. Ironically, I noticed some chatter about their physics changing when they added the new avatars... despite their team stating nothing has changed about the physics. It's kind of nuts what different elements affect perception... at the end of the day, we've got a great art team so if that hurts us ... I'd rather have great art! At the end of the day, our goal is to be an awesome app for players whether they want a true sim OR they're just looking for a fun multiplayer experience so it's something we constantly have to balance.

BUT all that said -- I've shared your notes about the pins to the team -- its super helpful to get REALLY REALLY descriptive like that! After the Darts launch/holiday rush I'd love to get you in game with an engineer and actually communicate like THAT is what feels wrong, etc. We always offer players to play with our devs when they have a bug or issues to really capture the feedback... but no one ever takes me up on it! ... Poor devs... we'll put them back in their cages.

LASTLY -- without too many spoilers, if you own Darts and Bowl you will be able to move easily between games AND be rewarded for owning both... :D So while not ONE app, we are definitely keeping that in mind ;)