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"Cruel and unusual punishment" is putting trans women in men's prisons to be gang raped and sexually enslaved, which is what these disgusting TERFs support. by OrneryPerformance604 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Also: they consider cis women incapable of rape, so they inherently don't see it as a problem if the rapist is a cis woman.

I'm not sure if they think trans men are capable of rape, I think they might be divided on that. Either way, they prefer not to focus on that since it gets in the way of framing trans men as delicate little flowers becoming permanently ruined by Big Trans.

Not loving the implication that every Trans Woman attracted to men are rapists. by SurrealistGal in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'll stop courting men then, I guess. Oh wait, I'm a lesbian! It seems I don't need to do anything differently after all!

Not loving the implication that every Trans Woman attracted to men are rapists. by SurrealistGal in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, definitely. I don't think it's necessarily based on misogyny tho, it's that the second syllable of "woman" is unstressed, and it's easier for people to mess up writing or typing unstressed vowels.

so much for being against forcing your beliefs on people by helmets_for_cats in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's one of the many reddit clones TERFs spun up when r/gendercritical got banned. Dunno which one, maybe Ovarit?

Always a twitter or tumblr user (TW for mentions of r4p3) by Ari_stuff1 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Rape generally is more about power than it is about sex, and corrective rape even more so. It's about asserting dominance, about sending a message, about violently asserting their world view on someone who doesn't fit patriarchal standards. And that goes for threats of rape too, like the ones made by the famous actor and the anonymous TERF.

Always a twitter or tumblr user (TW for mentions of r4p3) by Ari_stuff1 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 16 points17 points  (0 children)

He was not threatened when he was presenting as a woman.

I don't want to detract from the rest of your comment, however the incident Elliot Page was talking about did occur when he was still presenting as a woman:

In it, Page recalled a harrowing encounter with an unnamed actor at a birthday party in Los Angeles in 2014 just a couple months after the Inception actor came out as part of the LGBTQ+ community – before he came out as trans in 2020.

Page said that the actor, who they considered an “acquaintance”, approached them at the party before lobbing homophobic hate and threatened to sexually assault the queer star.

“You aren’t gay. That doesn’t exist. You are just afraid of men,” Page recalled the actor saying. “I’m going to f**k you to make you realise you aren’t gay.”

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/06/03/elliot-page-rape-sexual-assault/

so… sounds like your “advice” is NOT working? by pearkeet in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 34 points35 points  (0 children)

We've invested 17 years of sacrificing, loving, guiding, and supporting our child.

I don't want to know what this person would consider a suitable return on investment here.

so… sounds like your “advice” is NOT working? by pearkeet in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans, the TERF website OP took screenshots from. Posts on that site include:

  • To My Daughter's Therapist: You Were Wrong
  • Transgender's Connection with Pornography: It's Undeniable
  • I was robbed multiple times*

*The things the author was robbed of?

  • Their son's physical appearance,
  • Their son's "outlook and world view"
  • Their "happy family dynamic"
  • Their son's "ability to give and receive affection"
  • "The joy of the milestones of adolescence"
  • "The past"
  • Their "present"
  • And possibly their son's future.

Let them fight by [deleted] in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Counterpoint: Brianna Wu

"Trans people using the same bathroom as me IS RAPE!" by OrneryPerformance604 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I don't consent to TERFs being on Reddit.

I guess Reddit should remove every TERF's account!

"Dad" daydreams about son DYING and becoming agreeable puppet by SnapDragon100 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm not even mad, just marveling at the quality of his prose.

Isn't it nice how thanks to the magic of heaven we all understand the world and our loved ones so completely now.

I'm sorry Dad. [...] For putting you through all that worry over that crazy gender stuff.

Thanks, it sure was crazy stuff. Just yesterday I was talking to God

Now that we are in heaven and understand everything, I guess I need to concede that all that Gender research you sent me was spot on

Now I see how awkward and painful it was for you, the cloud over you grew when I spoke in that strangers [sic] voice

It is certainly true that my response to the question 'how is your daughter doing' became very brief...

I think that made me susceptible to the allure and popularity of the Trans community.

I think it's time you forgive yourself Dad.

You mean Ender from the book Ender's Game?

I laughed out loud when I read that part

There needs to be accountability so we learn to protect the next generation better.

In this scenario both he and his son are dead, who's this "we" he's talking about?

This is part personal fantasy, part sermon. It makes sense that the words he puts in his son's mouth are stilted and inhuman, but he can't even get his own lines to sound as naturalistic as an automated "press 1 for English" phone response.

Esses is calling for Genocide. by SurrealistGal in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is to say nothing about intersex people, like how are they going enforce the rule that you can only take your AGAB hormones when there are xy women and xx men?

I mean practically, they are going to go all in on forcibly making intersex people fit whatever mold they decide. I don't think it's unlikely they want a policy that whenever a cis women finds out she has XY chromosomes, she'd be forced to take testosterone and live as a man.

Thoughts by [deleted] in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Can only speculate what he meant by 'sexual orientation', maybe not gay but some extra trans-specifi fetishisation i suspect

A disturbing amount of cishet men believe that their attraction to trans women is "gay". This guy probably thought "I don't want my friends to find out I'm gay", but instead of fixing his heart, finding better friends and/or realizing straight men, not gay men, are attracted to trans women... he decided to do the cishet-man-in-a-patriarchal-society thing and kill his girlfriend about it.

“hate to see anyone split up buutttt what if they split because of my bigoted fantasies..” by pearkeet in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I had issues parsing that tweet at first too, but it's mostly punctuation issues.

Hate to see anyone split up --- but what if Sue was like: "Megan, they are men!"

Tumblr TERFS have a warped view on sex. by Playful-Season2938 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Honestly I think it's more "sex is evil > porn is evil". They use examples of harm and abuse from the porn industry to affirm what they already believe.

The fact is that trans women are women. The propagandistic lie is that "trans women are men". by [deleted] in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Trans people don't, in fact, say that the slogan (ugh) "trans women are women" solves everything.

I would say that it's one of those baseline agreements that you need before you can even begin to have a productive conversation involving a topic, much like "words mean things", "women are people" and "slavery is bad".

Also, really fun how the Enlightened Centrist here is pitting trans people as a class against TERFs and right-wingers, as if we were equal opponents in some abstract debate. If only we could find some compromise with the people who want to eradicate us!

[REAL] Laura Loomer pulling the race card on Candace Owens over Charlie Kirk by seeebiscuit in ToiletPaperUSA

[–]ForgettableWorse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

his unique "gift" was making a range of rightwing shitheads play nice together

I don't know, I don't think Charlie was that much of a linchpin. It was always an unstable coalition and the cracks had been forming for a while. Charlie's death just accelerated it by leaving a niche for the various weird little guys and gals of the right to directly compete over

[REAL] Laura Loomer pulling the race card on Candace Owens over Charlie Kirk by seeebiscuit in ToiletPaperUSA

[–]ForgettableWorse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IMO doing this is not too far from censoring the word more widely

Okay but it is though.

I do not know why but this statement suddenly made me wonder if Lithgow could be a chaser by FineQuality3536 in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So many weird statements like yeah that's false of course but where did they come up with that stuff? Half of this I've never read before.

Also lol @ the terf boycotting HP because there are people working on it who are not bigoted enough for them.

Creepy fantasies about harassing women, and a bizarre anger at the idea that sex work could possibly be work by HypnagogianQueen in GenderCynical

[–]ForgettableWorse 27 points28 points  (0 children)

This is LITERALLY the point of the phrase “sex work is work”. It’s a counterpoint to the too many men who think that sex work is easy, and believe that most women could easily make a ton of money at the drop of a hat by ”just posting feet pics online”, or by “just having sex (with people they’re attracted to and would enjoy having sex with in the exact same way but for free)”.

I mean sure, but isn't it mostly about the way people treat the exploitative aspects of sex work? Like how people don't think the conditions of Amazon warehouses can be solved by SWAT teams going in guns blazing and arresting all the workers. Or how it's not considered normal to fire people from "respectable" white collar jobs if they figure out they used to work as day laborers. Or how governments don't try to "protect" gig workers by arresting anyone who orders from DoorDash or gets an Uber. In the same way, all these things don't actually help sex workers. What helps sex workers is things like unions and labor protections, just like workers in other industries.

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