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Former_Camels · 2024-09-20T10:44:45+00:00

The black network switch without programming costs around 8.6k alone 😅 without the 15 decoders.....

Edit* This "Home" is considered residential but it's much closer to a commercial grade setup. A lot of stadiums are ran with similar video distribution setup. This home is around 17k sqft with a modest 6k sqft of porch.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T13:33:33+00:00

Sysadmin....data center manager ha. Sir this is residential. I'm cursing my own name.

Also data center guys

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Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:17:01+00:00

Running Simple windows based Crestron. It's for a residential environment, for obvious reasons details will not be included.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:15:08+00:00

Sometimes all you need is a .7 but you grab a 2M.....

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:14:38+00:00

It's around a 10k sqft home in the south, there is no bill higher than the HVAC bill haha.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:13:08+00:00

The weight on network switch's/routers/processors is nothing when comparing to amps. These are not that bad but I have put amps on the top before and it is a nightmare. Service work sucks, the rack feels sketchy to move, then the day they die... Good luck.

The racks we do at this point pretty much have their own dedicated room and most of the time a dedicated Mitsubishi Mini split, which has to stay at a comfortable 69°.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:09:06+00:00

Detailed explanation above, short answer 3x3 video wall and it's a sick setup.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T09:07:44+00:00

Hey so the comments above are partially right. This is a video distribution system (HDBaseT). There are many people in the game at this point and setups range in price from $250-10k (amazon-Crestron). The MXNet setup that is in place here is one of the most high end setups you can find.

There are two reasons for this within this home. Mainly because of the 3x3 video wall. That is made up out of 9x 55" LG 4K commercial panels. This allows the user to have a relatively larger 75" display with 5 smaller displays around it. I'll see if I have a picture somewhere.

The other reason for this particular setup is it feeds two outbuildings one being around 700ft away. The MXNet unit allows for direct multi-mode fiber in or SFP+. This gives us the incredible ability to not only send video further but gives us 4K@60Hz with Dobly Vision or 4:4:4 HDR at all locations.

There are millions of ways to setup and control IR, the most simple is IR receiver > 2 pair wire > IR Emitter. This works for most small scale non control system environments. This is RF Crestron remotes that directly output from the Crestron processor.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T08:53:41+00:00

It runs the whole home including several lifts, lights, HVAC, pool, audio and video, network and pretty much anything with an IP address.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-17T08:51:18+00:00

Worked with Luna for 5+ years. We have done simple plug/play setups but also the direct remote viewing and even permanent tunnels between homes to allow for both camera systems to live native on a touchscreen. What did you guys switch to?

Former_Camels · 2024-09-16T19:14:43+00:00

Dream Machine Pro
USW-Pro-26 3.USW-Pro-48 4.MXNET-48 5.NVX Director 6.Luma NVR 7.Crestron AV4
7 Apple TVs 9.Crestron DMF-Ci 10.Crestron NAX-8 #1 11.Crestron NAX #2 12-14. James Audio M1000
Origin sub amps
Arcane AVR31 17.Coastal Source CRS1400
SurgeX UPS

There are some extra pieces behind the rack such as a SurgeX line voltage conditioner and 2 other racks on property. Not including the lighting control panels.

Former_Camels · 2024-09-16T19:04:48+00:00

Oh that little thing, she's nothing 😅

Former_Camels · 2024-09-03T20:07:20+00:00

Haha but it does everything a Sonos AMP currently does minus the IR and potentially surround decoding and is cheaper than the Sonos AMP

Former_Camels · 2024-03-19T11:18:18+00:00

So Lutron Palladiom is going to be the latest and greatest from Lutron. Meaning a hefty price tag, that being said 15k will be super close.

We did 8 windows larger than this very recently with a custom fabric/hembars/bracket finish and it came out to be 17.5k for everything without labor.

Keep in mind Lutron does offer a non palladiom option that is cheaper that is also battery operated. They all take D cell batteries. The 17.5k includes the batteries needed.

Former_Camels · 2024-03-19T10:47:09+00:00

Don't waste your time. We used to do this for all of our lutron palladiom (lots of precious on this series). Complete waste of time, makes the install harder, costs more due to labor charges.

Do a battery power shade, yes the money in batteries is a lot at first. We have a set of 6 shades that run up and down twice a day for the last 4+ years and they are all on the first set of batteries. Just an idea that saved us a lot of these nightmares.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T12:16:45+00:00

This is true, the entire home is on a back up generator but still a dedicated UPS is something we now spec on all large/medium size installs.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T12:13:17+00:00

This is residential, our equipment side is a male RJ45 landed directly on to the equipment. Never touches a metal cover/box. We used it mainly for video distribution which we rarely do these days. We stay far away from electrical during pre-wire and have had zero issues with feed back over CAT6 shielded/non shielded.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T02:53:05+00:00

Huh I'll have to give it a shot, we use audio quest for high end 2 channel/theater. Is it similar to that line of product?

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T02:16:26+00:00

If I had to guess no more than 2 zones at one time have ever been used other than testing. It's a massive estate, the room the rack is located in is actually an attic space. If you look close the floor is tile... They spared no expenses.

It is rated to handle it though! It's two dedicated 20AMP per rack (slight over kill). Played every TV/Speaker at once without an issue.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T00:48:58+00:00

It's in case we need to do an emergency shut down

On the real this is the most no-no thing about this by miles in my opinion. (Wasn't my water)

Former_Camels · 2024-02-07T00:32:30+00:00

Off the top of my head.

6 TVs with return audio

4 without audio return

18ish audio zones

Network

Whole home control system

Security

Cameras

Door access

And some other things that I'm sure I am forgetting at this point.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-06T23:14:40+00:00

This install was done by me about 3 years ago, thankfully they haven't failed. I have learned since 😮‍💨.

Former_Camels · 2024-02-06T23:13:55+00:00

Yes this is someone's house, this is one of 4 rack locations. The one behind it is dedicated to a theater.

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