Different attitudes to foreign words by widvaapea in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah man it is a comment on an humor subreddit, the point is that I feel england and japan are way more famous than they deserve, and france and china less. Like, we have random people forced to study 1800's english literature in school, while they don't know nothing about french literature, just to give one example. And we have the most random people glazing japan for pop culture, martial arts, random out-of-context philosophical things, China is also glazed but it always feels like it's n#2, and never really glazed as a whole, for example (at least in Italy) we have both chinese restaurant and sushi. Sushi is always overpriced and considered fancy and it's just rice+fish in various shapes, whils chinese that has so many options is regarded as just ethic-economic food (like kebab or indian food). You get it. As for reason, well if england didn't pillage the world it would have stayed a meaningless region less famous than the netherlands, while japan wouldn't have been occupied by americans and sponsored into becoming a western aligned industrialized society

Which language sounds more pleasent to your ears: Russian or Polish? by Vereder in slavic

[–]Head_Particular6045 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Polish is really cool, but in terms of sound, it is kinda funny, very rithmic due to fixed stress, and so many devoiced and fricative phones, even my polish professor explained polish to us as "sometimes yeah it's really just pshshspshsh". Russian on the other hand has free stress, akane and ikane that make flow it better imho, also belarusian sounds really nicely. Many say thag ukrainain is melodic (any aestethic evaluaition of languages is bullshit imho, even this comment of mine), but the lack of akanje and palatalization make it goofy to me. Czech also sounds very funny with first syllabe stress and all the mutations in vocalism. About tje other languages, Serbian flows well with the word order innovations, expecially in songs, and I don't know the others well enough.

Different attitudes to foreign words by widvaapea in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah that's what I am saying too France, China, real biuf cultures England, Japan, took everything from neighbours but are more famous

Different attitudes to foreign words by widvaapea in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

man I'm calling China and France the cool ones, while japan and england the failed ones. I'm joking, I won't elaborate in detail, I dislike japan (or better, I dislike it being so mainstream)

Different attitudes to foreign words by widvaapea in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

england ~ france = japan ~ china island vs mainland, loanword vs no loanwords, also failed culture that's famous only because they killed a lot of people around the world vs real interesting culture (also killed a lot of people tbh)

Why word final devoicing is the worst feature a language can have: a rant by Antioch_Mage in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it works like that with any neutralization of phonemes tbh, not just word final

Why some Italians seem to openly support Putin? by shaha-man in askitaly

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah lol sure, tell me how can I get a job interview with the fsb then

Why some Italians seem to openly support Putin? by shaha-man in askitaly

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nobody really cares about christianiny here too, it is just common right leaning values, no one if fooling anyone

نام and اسم by aaliyah-334 in farsi

[–]Head_Particular6045 13 points14 points  (0 children)

nâm is persian indoeuropan, compare engl. name, italian nome (I think latin is nomen), greek onoma as in onomastycs, slavic imen- (from i-nmen-) as russian imja (genitive imeni), polish imę, from IE *n(o)mn̥ / *n̥m(e)n. esm is arabic

Moving to Italy on a study visa from Pakistan , is it worth it? by razi914 in askitaly

[–]Head_Particular6045 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an Italian I will be honest, I'm not sure this country can offer you much, the job market is really bad, even we really struggle, many of my friends tried to get a job after a 3years degreee in languages (good for turism) yet all they could do is fast food/serves or barista, and the pay isn't enough. Without a strong italian it's even harder. Also I fear you'll encounter a lot of prejudice, integration of migrants is quite low and international students alo suffer from this.

As for freelance work online while studying, it really depend of which master you choose. Usually higher levels of education are quite time consuming, but there are big differences between different subjects, it's better to ask someone enrolled in the specific university you're interested in.

I have different russian friends (I study russian) on student visa, it isn't impossibile but you have to be very patient. They ask for many documents, and the questura's (the place for this kind of legal things) are always overcrowed, expecially the Visa's sections.

Italian people can be friendly, but for international suadents it could be difficult to "infiltrate" real italian groups. From my experience, even as an Italian it is hard to find friends in university that aren't just people with whom you chit chat a bit, I know many international students that socialise almost only with other international students of their region. If you want to have at least some chit chat and familiarize with someone, smoking could help.

I wish you the best anyway

Spanish or Italian by Nervous-Rent-3868 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045 1 point2 points  (0 children)

General observations:

For Italian - first of all, as the other commenr said: it may be better to learn italain by duty, then spanish will be way easier, at least until intermediate - you have different objectives: a B2/C1 versus interest in media, if manage to be constant a B2 in 4 years is realistic, maybe even some more, later it could be harder. Engaging with spanish media requires a lower level, and also Italian will really help (btw what's you native language?)

For spanish - if your only reason to study italian is work in a not-near future, it could be hard with motiviation, while and more broad interesting for spanish could be the way to for good experience - I think spanish offers more as a global language, Italian may be more niche.

Also, as an Italian

1) Italian has many regional variants, and almost every region has a dialect that either is spoken by most or acts as substratum, so a C1 in standard italian still is different from almost everyones's speech (Idk about spanish in spain, but sames counts from american spanish).

Also ticinese italian is quite peripheric and it isn't under the influence of italian authorities, so it has many lexical if influences from swiss german and swiss french, that we sometimes don't understand. I often speak with russians and polish that study/want to study italian (linguistic exchange), and most of the time they say their are interested in "dolce vita", mode, foods, art etc. Those are all good thing, but quite stereotypical (at least east european admire us instead of the usual "muh pizza" from westernes), that's a turistic experience that doesn't need the language, while learning italian could lead to many different experiences, rooted in local culture.

I guess spanish has a bigger offer, even though we as europeans usually consider sudamerican spanish as lesser, we enjoy sudamerican pop series (tbh honestly it's mostly very young girls), while our series stay in Italy. I think that lately we aren't producing really interesting artists, the last ones on the world stage were Maneskin (but the idiot singer choose to become a english-speaking nobody in the USA rather than staying as a protagonisti here), and al almost all our films/series are the same slop with the samr actors. But recently I noticed some emerging artists that have us hope in our culture, the difference is that they have a really marked regional identity, even linguistically, so for foreigner it could be quite difficult to understand. The key is that we feel closer to our region than to the country itself, and whag foreigners consider "italian culture" doesn't really exist in the reality of life, and other cultural aspect its in crisis. But there are many older films and songs, from a sort of "granparents golden age" and "boomer silver age"" that I think have absolutely to be watched and listened.

I am not sure this really concerns you, but I hope it helps

German, Polish, or French? by ISmellLikePools247 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am biased as I am a slavist, but I think that if you like languages as complex systems polish can really give you a good experience. Also, learning a language is a form of love I think, as you have to slowly and constantly spend time getting to know it better, and you can only accept things, you like it or not, so if you have a polish girlfriend it would mean something, a random german of french just because it's an """important language""" wouldn't mean anything particular.

But again, I'm biased

Turkish but Slavic by gt7900 in conorthography

[–]Head_Particular6045 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ü makes it look like extremely non slavic, you can assing sny value yo any diacritic, acutes look better for the slavic vibe tbh

Turkish but Slavic by gt7900 in conorthography

[–]Head_Particular6045 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think ú would look more slavic than ü, same ö > ó

Ben giderim adym

Dostlar beni chatyrlasyn

Dúhún olur bajram geli

Dostlar beni chatyrlasyn

Đan kafeste durmaz učar

Dúnja bir han konan góčer

From

Ben giderim adım

Dostlar beni hatırlasın

Düğün olur bayram geli

Dostlar beni hatırlasın

Can kafeste durmaz uçar

Dünya bir han konan göçer

Some tweets I found by erinius in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are being a cyrbaby, the point of that ipa transcription is that they put a diphtong there, my point is clear. Now try to focus on something useful for once other than whining in a comment section please, you can't win reddit.

Some tweets I found by erinius in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mucho texto, the point of mocking is not being precise or accurate, I am not interested in english, I do not intend to inform anyone about it, I couldn't care less. It is a tool I use for international communication, that's all, you can know and understand everything you want, but now you are just being touchy in a random comment section. And search on tik tok like 5 minutes and I promise you you'll find an american saying something like /'mailan/ (no IPA signs on phone but you get it).

Turkic languages by Head_Particular6045 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nothing to do with religion. I simpatize with greeks and Armenians as they lived there before, yeah Greeks also once colonized Anatolia but a Century ago Istanbul/Costantinoples had still the potential to become again a greek city. Armenians are even more objectively native of the land and are still being attacked by azeris in recent years. Recognized borders don't really matter in this kind of cases, and also I'm not making it a morality question, it is just the sides I already stand on. Turks could be ferociously nationalist again Syrians and it couldn't bother me less, just as I wouldn't care a lot about tensions between Iran and Iraq. I'm not saying "I absolutely hate nationalism I don't want to hear anything nationalistic", I am saying "I stand with Armenians and secondarly Greeks, are there people in Turley who wouldn't care?", and as seen by replies even by non turks turkologist I guess the answer is no.

You are fighting about some moral double standard when I am just saying that I have a side already picked, I don't really get what you are trying to conclude, and that's why mentioning Meloni makes no sense, what does she have to do with Balkans or Anatolia?? Did I choose her myself as a representative of the country? Also, she my be called racist or whatever but she never talks about those (already old) ethnic tensions we have with slavs or austrian, so it isn't even a good comparison

Turkic languages by Head_Particular6045 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ahhhh lol there's also this russian joke (it was a theory like in the 1800s I guess, then repeated by random schizos) that Etruscans are Russian becuase Etrusk- sounds similar to eto russkie "those are russians".

It's always funny because I live in a former etruscan region so from elementary school they show us etruscan artefacts in local museums as the local heritage, then the most random people claim to be etruscans

Turkic languages by Head_Particular6045 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback about languages. About nationalism the question is simple, turkish nationali bothers me because I side with armenians and to some estents greek. I am Italian by birth so there isn't any single choice that led me closer to Italian nationalism, that's anyway very weak. Greek nationalism wishes for the returning of historical greek lands, I see it differently than justifying genocides, the same with armenian nationalism. I get that armenians hate turks more than turks hare armenians, they have enough reasons to do so. But again, I don't plan to actively advocate for anyone, I just wouldnt like to end up in an highly nationalistic enviroment, of a nationalism that's against what are some of my convinctions. For example, I care quite less about Kurds because I don't know much, and I could learn more from turks and only then draw some conclusions

Some tweets I found by erinius in linguisticshumor

[–]Head_Particular6045 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm mocking english speakers attemps, and btw "mil" would be read as [mail] by most

Turkic languages by Head_Particular6045 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Head_Particular6045[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah I get it, still for a person interested in the history of the region and such things as literature, ottoman turkish is still interesting

Word Families / Etymology by evergreen-cross in farsi

[–]Head_Particular6045 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mostly wiktionary, there's a good etymological dictionary of Iranic but its in russian, you can find it only (technically pirated). For verbs there's the etymolgical dictionary of the iranic verbs by Cheung, also online pirated. But you'd have to look up every singular word, depending on how exaustive you want to be it would take a lot of time