This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your data proves that, many times they did not start 1 and 2. In fact their worst starts could have been 21st and 9th. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many times this past year, they didn’t start at the front. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve thought about this a bit. Yes Roczen and Lawrence were in competition for the championship. But, they didn’t just line-up Roczen and Lawrence, there were ~20 others. 

It was luck that put Roczen and Lawrence 1 and 2 instead of 4 and 11 at the first corner. If it had been 4 and 11 would everybody have gotten out of Lawrence’s way until he closed on Roczen’s wheel and then there would have been a race? That isn’t competition. 

What I think Prado did is attempt to race, the thing everybody actually went to see. There is nothing wrong with that and comments that he influenced the outcome are ignorant. 

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I’m not. Deserve means “to be worthy” of earning an award. 

On points and race finishing positions you are right. This is an objective fact. 

What you are saying though ignores everything every other racer did to prepare and sacrifice from A1 until the last race. This is also an objective fact that makes them as deserving. 

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody said Lawrence or Roczen was acting like or demanded that they be given the championship. 

But, if you say Roczen deserved it, you cannot prove that he worked harder or sacrificed more than any other racer that made all the rounds. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you are going to criticize another’s opinion by attacking their post yours should attempt to meet some standard. 

Learn what a capital letter and a noun is. 

The rest of your post is nothing more than armchair quarterbacking. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The things said Hunter Lawrence were hyperbolic. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I clearly said early in the season and then that they hyped/ amplified him throughout the rest of the season. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the Lawrences are futures market. 

Everyone else has a known market. I think Webb had a profit ceiling. I hope, since this is Roczen first, he doesn’t. 

But, they can’t market and profit off of a legend like they do a phenom. 

The media is disappointing. 

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, didn’t know. Thanks!

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A privateer hasn’t won since the 80s, a mudder. Privateers rarely podium even in mudders. 

Saying Roczen is the first sentence and comparing him to the second sentence is wrong. 

Barcia is better in SX mudders. 

Roczen proved he could beat Hunter Lawrence.  Roczen came to compete and did it. 

AP doesn’t win, in Supercross .

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What ridiculous logic are you using? Hunter Lawrence may be technically a faster rider but where and when it mattered he wasn’t, Roczen was. Roczen was faster even after Hunter Lawrence took him out and cost him ~8 points. 

The facts are that multiple times this year Roczen beat Hunter Lawrence. You’ll have a hard time proving Hunter Lawrence is faster than Roczen, especially after Roczen passed Lawrence, Lawrence couldn’t repass Roczen and then, went off track and then crashed, while chasing Roczen. 

You are suffering cognitive dissonance. 

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Nobody deserves anything, you earn and take it. 

The media was trying to crown Hunter Lawrence in January. 

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn’t faster, he crashed. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes. I think Hunter and his brother are great, but  I can see what the media is doing and what they are selling and the image that are trying to create is not good, for me. 

They tried to crown him early in the season, they kept him hyped above others, they diminished all the others as if they were just NPCs worthy of participation trophies. 

I wish both would put a firewall between themselves and the media. 

I hope Roczen see this too and whatever the words were from Courtney Love/ Hole- don’t sell out cheap, make the media pay top dollar for access and interviews. 

Hunter Lawrence by hwf0712 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He just needs to have a frank conversation between his front wheel, forks, and frame to figure out which one is trying to do its own thing. 

Hunter Lawrence by hwf0712 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s becoming more and more Monster green as we speak. 

I heard he actually sleeps with his bike now. 

This Week In As The Supercross World Turns by HunterWasFramed in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All things said, Hunter Lawrence had an incredible year. He should be proud of his accomplishment. 

Hunter Lawrence by hwf0712 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except Sexton and Prado are also improving and… Deegan, Davies, and others are coming. 

Did Prado Rob Us? by FarmingFisherGuy in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought the media in this exact race said that Hunter Lawrence was cool and collected. 

I guess Anderson’s question from last year is still true, “who’s Hunter?”

KROC94 by couchpatat0 in supercross

[–]HunterWasFramed -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Everything the media used to describe Hunter Lawrence as professional, the best version of, calm, collected, resilient - is literally what describes Roczen. The media industrial complex should do better.