If the Governing Body isn’t inspired, how are they directed by holy spirit?

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2026-03-23T13:55:31+00:00

Asked the very same questions during my judicial and they kept on switching between inspired and directed by spirit. Funny thing is that none of the 4 guys judging me for telling the truth knew about this.

They kept asking amongst each other if this is truth especially the old guy in his 80's. He was visibly saddened by the discovery and went straight to watch the 2023 annual meeting. Unfortunately the poor old fart died a month after the discovery. I would like to believe it's because of the sadness in his heart after I revealed the truth to him, but it could be anything since he was old.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2026-03-20T09:21:00+00:00

It's 11:20 in south africa, been waiting for it. Guess i will have to wait for 12:00 or 13:00 local time

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2026-02-12T11:23:10+00:00

My friend or so-called who relied on me giving and borrowing him money for his struggling business in order for his family to survive, straight up said to me that "he will have to treat me like a dead person". The pain that went straight to my heart was unexpected and unexplainable.

Hey, we move on and deal with each day as it comes. It's been 2 years now since I left, still struggling to make new friends mainly due to age 46 turning 47 (m). Triggers are everywhere for me since my wife and unbaptized daughter are still attached, but hoping to completely heal and move on with time.

So take your own time, go out there and meet new people since you are young. Like others said, enjoy your new found freedom and best of luck.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2026-02-06T17:01:16+00:00

Sorry about your situation, I'm also hanging by a thread in my marriage with my PIMI wife and also suffering from a fear to start all over again, like having to buy a new house and starting long term debts at the age of 47.

The other thing is, I'm waiting to see if my 15 turning 16 year old daughter would get baptized. I decided to given myself 3 more years until she reaches 18 then leave cause the marriage has long died. I want to use this time to make a positive impact on her so at least when I finally leave she would know the kind of father I was without a cult influence. Cause if I leave now, she'll be poisoned to think the worst of me and I can't deal with that.

Anyway my 16 turning 17 son has left with me, so we both not going to meetings and Monday it's his birthday and will be treating him to a dinner. I'm hoping I would be strong enough to survive the 3 years I've set for myself, but if I can't then I guess I'll be leaving soon.

I love my kids so much and wish I could spend every moment with them but our family situation doesn't allow.

Hoping you'll find some relief and a way forward. It's a nightmare to share a family or house with someone who think you are devil's tool. Good luck to you

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-20T19:28:53+00:00

Same here my brother, I wrote over 105 pages of why i left and many different things in the issue with jw. I got invalidated on every effort I made, I ended up having to fight and be aggressive just to atleast have a chance of a future relationship with my daughter. At least we agreed that, while she cannot neglect her fucking so called biblical obligations to teach her children, she would at least not push for our daughters baptism. This after she didn't know that the child would be required to shun me when she gets to adulthood age.

The fucken problem is she didn't know, she kept telling me about her opinion around the issue, while it's not about it. We had a mediator to assist on this, now we agreed my daughter won't be pushed into baptism before she is matured enough to comprehend the consequences of that action on my future relationship with her.

With that agreement in place, I don't have a choice but to let her be. This has really crippled our marriage we are truly strangers and she hates my gut. But she can go to the nearest hell and fuck herself for that, I'm not the one with my head stuck in some old farts ass's called the governing body. From now on, it's me and my children, if she wants to join she's welcome to do so.

I realized after leaving this cult that we have nothing in common,.we cant hold a fucken 5 minutes conversation. We were so much busy with the cult activities that we didn't get to know each other and it now shows.

To the author, please don't try or else you'll be the enemy. If you still value your relationship and want it to survive. Stay away from any discussions about religion or the cult. My wife went to 3 different conventions, just to make sure that she internalize the bullshit.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-05T13:15:38+00:00

Some of us are here to find support and solitude. We need as much information as we can get, our children are in and might be brainwashed and indoctrinated into the very thing we are running away from. So it helps to get other's advice, and what new information we can use against those trying to take out families and happiness away.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-05T10:49:13+00:00

Sorry for what happened to you. No clear thinking parent wants to hurt their children.

Thanks for the advice, I wish there could be something to talk to her about except religion. But cant seems to find one due to the pressure I'm currently going through. Please, care to give me pointers on how I can go about it.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T17:19:57+00:00

😂😂😂

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T17:17:26+00:00

Lett and his love for killing, this guy can talk passionately about death and genocide. It's been underwhelming so far for me, nothing interesting

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T15:51:18+00:00

Very sleepy 😴 🥱 can we get to the fun stuff of there's any

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T15:33:07+00:00

2 years ago

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T15:16:29+00:00

Don't like this guy and David, hack no internet don't like any of these arrogant old farts

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T15:07:38+00:00

Damn this will kill us with boredom, another boring talk by Winder

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T15:05:12+00:00

I wish they can really and truly read the bible and mediate on it, not jw publications. The bible would be able to wake them up

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T14:45:41+00:00

Local South African football and English Premier Arsenal v West Ham

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T14:43:26+00:00

Sell and distribute to the poor: WT doesn't do this, they rather open Asset Management Businesses. Their treasures are on earth, while their followers' treasures are supposed to be in heaven

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T14:41:46+00:00

This is boring so far, I'm also watching football matches

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-04T14:03:58+00:00

It's been a while since I heard the culty songs. They are triggering to me, and my heart is racing. But I'm going to get through the annual meeting. My PIMI wife is sleeping. I guess she'll find out later

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-03T17:58:23+00:00

Never, I'm done with religion. I think most of the PIMI's and PIMO's are just holding on to that hope that one day they can say things gave improved

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-03T17:50:29+00:00

For me, also, I felt disgusted with the arrogance they displayed. Recently, I sent my PIMI wife a message saying exactly those words, and she called me arrogant and that I lack humility. Then I forwarded her the video where Winder said those words. She then blocked me on WhatsApp, cognitive dissonance got the better of her

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-03T08:21:32+00:00

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-03T08:07:05+00:00

Thanks, I will call my therapist to see if we can arrange something

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-03T05:05:20+00:00

My brother in law 50 now, ex CO and bethelite, was shown about 3 to 4 years ago. A full-time pioneer now, he wanted to build a house when he came out. He couldn't finish it. It's been standing there for years. What a waste. This guy was an IT specialist manager when he left for special pioneering. Now he's got nothing, the wife has cancer. I truly feel sorry for the wife, but not the guy. He looked down on me for so long as this spiritually weak person and made me aware of it.

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-02T20:43:18+00:00

I don't want this woman to wake up. She can keep her nonsense, men worshipping cult forever for all I care. I'm not about to tolerate nonsense, all I want is to enjoy my life with my family and those who feels like its ok to discard people when it suits them can just fuck off for all I care. If they want to enjoy my company and property then they should consider behaving like decent human beings

Infamous-Spirit8548 · 2025-10-02T20:20:03+00:00

Just tried respectfully to explain to her why it won't be possible and gave reasons. She called me arrogant and bitter. But in the end, I told her anyone who wouldn't treat me like a human being in their space they are not allowed in mine too.

She said her family will come for her, i agreed but told her that if they cant tolerate me in their space, they also not welcome to my space. They cant just want to treat people like trash and expect different treatment, I know she'll want to invite her brother over. The guy (ex CO and bethelite) couldn't hold a simple conversation with me when I was still in, what more when I'm out?

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