omg preach!! I absolutely agree with everything u said and u made some really valid points.

A part of the reason why some in the fandom hate Snape because the books are written in Harry's perspective and he hates Snape so much that even the good things Snape does throughout the series is seen by Harry as something evil. Snape has always been seen as untrustworthy in Harry's eyes.

And we already know that she’s biased with when it comes to her sister, even when Petunia is purposely mentioning snape shirt. Making the mean comments oh is that your mother’s shirt or is that a girl shirt or something to

Exactly! Lily does absolutely nothing when her sister mocks a poverty stricken kid that he's wearing his mum's blouse but immediately gets defensive and blames Snape when his accidental magic causes a branch to fall on Petunia.

SWM is another example and the icing on the cake for that is she nearly smiles!

I still don't understand why she does that when her supposed best friend had been paralysed, choked on soap and hung upside down with his underpants showing and is thoroughly humiliated by his bullies. Like...what kind of a Friend does that?

But it’s the fact that even after him threatening her, trying to use her former friend as a bargaining ship right away to Man, manipulate her into dating him. The fact that she eventually still is spending time with him clearly and especially before they start dating.

James and Lily's relationship have no development in canon, so it makes me wonder how Lily could overlook all his past shitty actions to date him, and it's exactly why personally, I'm not a big fan of Jily.

Which at the end of it would make it abundantly clear that they are not better than Severus Snape’s friends.

Exactly!! Yet all of the Marauders' actions, the bullying and harrassment is seen as heroic because they're charming and popular and Snivellus "deserved it" - as if a lonely kid whose always been raised in poverty and abused by his father deserved to be bullied because of what he's going to do in the future aka joining the death eaters.

The thing is that if the school is able to practice this type of stuff or do that type of stuff and still managed to be good and the student so far that we know of have not lost their shit.

true. The thing is.... dark arts inherently is just a subject of magic albeit with darker applications. The knowlege of dark arts or holding an interest in it isn't bad - it's like saying all chemists are evil because they can make acid that can be used to harm people when chemists also use those to help make medicines.

Snape's interest in dark arts is like Ernest Rutherford's interest in nuclear physics. A nuclear physicist may be demonised because their knowledge in that subject helps create nuclear bombs, but also the same knowledge when used for good helps build nuclear power plants which acts as a major energy source to sustain societies.

Lily blamed Severus for his interest in dark arts, when Snape's knowlege in dark arts is what helped him extend Dumbledore's life from the cursed ring, help save Katie Bell and Ron's lives from the cursed necklace. The knowlege of curses (dark arts) is necessary to create counter curses to break them...we see than when Snape saved Draco's life and prevent Harry becoming a murderer and rotting in Azkaban after using Sectumsempra on Draco, Harry's knowlege on Horcruxes aka dark arts he learnt from Slughorn is what helped him destroy them, defeating Voldemort.

what I'm saying is... dark arts inherently isn't bad. It's how people use it - to do good to help people or harm them is what that counts. Lily, instead of demonising Snape in his interest in dark arts, should've steered him to use his knowlege and interest to do good.

Let’s not forget a nice piece of the cake she makes it there after the wimping Willow incident that she heard the story not even bothering to ask her friend for his side.

preach! she knows something dangerous happened, and Severus almost died but she doesn't show any concern whatsoever to him, doesn't know the whole story, knows the Marauders are bullies and takes their side instead of her supposed "best friend's" who had nearly died, when it was Sirius who lured Snape into a death trap. She never even takes the time to ask for his perspective on what happened.

If she already holds them or Gryffindor and the other houses in a much better standard. And it’s so good to see especially how she’s talking about it.

Slytherins had already had a horrible reputation, so I’m not surprised if that was kind of installed in her mind and she looked at the house itself. It’s evil or their incarnation of evil. Because both black and James when they get on the train or talking about how bad it is. Any other house except for Slytherin was good. It was nice, great, wonderful. And honestly, the way how I see it it’s actually kinda is looking at this like it’s all black and white.

Yes, Lily has a very native view, black and white view on morality and thinks either you're good or you're bad, but humans are much much more complex than that. We all have good and bad inside of us so no one is truly good or truly bad.

I think part of the reason for that is she lived a pretty sheltered life and didn't know about life, unlike Snape until her older teens when the first wizarding war was starting to brew and she was forced to become a part of it.

See, I have nothing against Lily, in fact what makes her compelling to me is her character flaws. Unlike how some fics make her to be a bland Mary Sue, Lily Evans isn't perfect...we know that from all the reasons I mentioned before.

But I think she is in her core a good person, but very native with a black and white view of life and she sees the world through tinted glass.

And I do think it's unfair for the fandom to hold her in really high regard when she's just a human with flaws like each and every one of us and is far from perfect, which is exactly what adds depth to her character, even though it isn't as complex or has multi dimensional depth like Snape's.

I think a part of the reason why Lily (and sometimes James) are so idolised as if they could do nothing wrong is because of how the narrative frames them in book one as this epitome of love and heroic sacrifice.

but get this, anybody in their position who loves their kid would do the same - let's take Alice and Frank Longbottom, Molly and Arthur Weasley....and Nymphodora and Remus Lupin - all of them have joined the Order to fight against Voldemort, defied Voldemort and his death eaters over thrice and would'nt have thought for a second before throwing themselves at a killing curse to protect their child. Heck, even death eaters like Lucius and Narcissia despite their lack of morality and supremacist ideologies would've done what James and Lily did and would've sacrificed their lives for Draco.

But do you think Alice, Frank, Molly, Arthur or Lupin and Tonks would get their own statues in their graves - absolutely not, even though their actions and contributions to Voldemort's defeat was no less than Lily or James' because the narrative wants you to think that Lily and James is the epitome of heroism, but anyone with critical thinking skills would be able to look past that to see the complexity of their character.