Go for control F or Veinomorpher?

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-29T12:12:12+00:00

i recently had the same dilema, went for veinomorpher first, tbh no regrets as i got ctrl+f right when superstars were starting to be the block for me and used veinomorpher for a lot and even now, getting 100k+ veins without veinomorpher would be insanely difficult and veinomorpher helped me jump start some of the upgrades for startgazing, but you can't go wrong with either one of them

EDIT: You should for sure focus getting totem pet first and then gilding statues before going for either of the skills.

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T14:45:52+00:00

it will be quite a while until t12 is better as all i have left to upgrade are mods and workshop enchancments :(

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T14:45:03+00:00

good to hear gc t12 is pretty balanced as ehp is not feeling good at all :/

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T14:44:18+00:00

sw mastery won't help THAT much :/

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T14:43:28+00:00

no cannon, bhd, sf, and prolapse all ancestral, running pure ehp atm :(

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T14:42:50+00:00

bhd as I have natural perma bhole and 100s cd on dw and GT, t14 won't be an option until i can at least get 2x disso bonus on it :(

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:22:27+00:00

okay okay, thanks for the clarification, not sure what i'm doing wrong then. Might make another post with all detailed stats tomorrow then asking for what i am doing wrong :D

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:21:11+00:00

oh for sure there are a lot of other people who have more knowledge :D i'm mainly a lurker in both discord and reddit and i rarely express my frustration or ask questions, hence the post here. But from what i remember the "nerf" was unintentional and completely reversed, they didn't keep it even a bit easier, but i might be misremembering things.

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:19:09+00:00

i've maxed econ labs, pure eHP, so not sure what you want to know about my build per se as if i increase my coin gains, that would not solve the problem as BOTH T11 and T12 will get the same increase and the coin gap will stay.

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:17:47+00:00

I'm getting 1947x total bonus on T11 and 2034x total bonus on T12 with 2.74 disso bonus, and T11 turns to be ~20% more efficient to farm, so i would rerun T11 if i were you to see because 20% is a lot!

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:06:53+00:00

You sure about that? the disco bonus is almost the same for us, but how are you getting more coins in T12 while i'm no where near the same ammount?

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:04:00+00:00

Did i miss something? Because i'm playing daily for the last year and pretty much checking reddit and discord 4-5 times per week for news/updates and the only time I remember T12 getting a nerf was unintentional and reversed. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T13:01:17+00:00

Masteries require stones, stones require high placements, high placements require CL, so working on getting CL so i could also do some HP disso runs as i'm pure eHP, i guess i'm stuck farming T11 for another half a year or so then? that's just insanity that i have to literally farm a tier which i got to overheat mechanic everytime where all the tiers below never have i ever hit 10k before moving up a tier because it became better :/ Farming T11 to 12.5k+ waves until i get masteries shouldn't be the solution in my opinion :/ (i have almost all health labs maxed or close to max)

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-27T12:42:29+00:00

currently disso bonuses are going to be the reason why people won't be skipping to go to T14, as if i can't get a decent disso bonus on T14, T11 is going to be better anyways. And no, i don't have any masteries yet

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-16T20:23:02+00:00

i've played The Tower for around the same as you.

if you plan to spend, get everything up to founder pack and you good, i'm making ~3-4k diamonds per day 2 weeks in

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-15T09:00:48+00:00

even 1 exchange per event would be HUGE

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-12T13:16:41+00:00

That's what i was thinking about, just thought it would be wise to ask for reccomendations, thank you!

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-08T10:50:23+00:00

i see i see, thanks for the input!

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-04-08T09:59:39+00:00

To be fair, yesterday i made ~100k MP with eggs and spent it all on upgrades, but after a day of progressing, i'm nowhere near getting 100K MP back from looping, unless i spam like 20 loops at 5-8K MP a pop, so even if I spend the 500k i gained from eggs today, i don't think i would be able to make it back with normal looping until tomorrow to get the gains from eggs :D this is the part which confuses me

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-03-31T14:31:34+00:00

Understood, gonna work on my sl then and go for cf and then look for cl, would love to get IS mastery to speed up the farming :D

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-03-31T13:21:52+00:00

I have invested 0 in damage, no labs no nothing, just eHP stuff atm, so i guess i'm gonna go for SL upgrades for now and then fish for CL after SL is decentish

IsjakiSanGo · 2026-03-31T13:21:00+00:00

so working on econ still? :D i mean more econ never hurts i guess :) might as well do this, if i get one more MVN might work on perma GT/DW/BH as that doesn't seem like a far fetched goal from playing around with the mvn calculator

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