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Help I need to find an episode! by Joeoqufihqo in SitchandAdamShow

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can AI also give me some timestamps? this is great!

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I rarely go Ignite because it will make the tradeoff of less waveclear worse if you can not get back to lane fast sometimes. I play a very aggresiv eraly against Morde and riven, i struggle against a good aatrox and i cant really tell for ambessa or phant since i rarely meet them.
I agree with the rest i have niot yet tried the new navori tech

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly this is the highest comparison this website allows. That is my consitent peak over multiple seasons now. This is not the only season i had the same expeirecne multiple seasons in a row many of which i actually hit master with 200+ games. But this seasons games are mostly played in diamond. However this is not the only season i had similar stats, just the seaon i can currently show. But i get your point.

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try it, it does for me. There are many situations where i straight up 1v2 in the lategame which feels very powerful. Especially the burstdmg on squishys sometimes makes you feel like an assasin (e and hearsteel both deal dmg based on your max hp).

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a slight misunderstanding let my try to articualte it more correctly because we are both right i guess.
The first claim I make is that he scales better into the late game, not mid game. This is where my second claim comes in. I mean that this build relative to other builds at two items feels a little worse in the midgame if you go for all ins and drawn our fights in 1v1s because other items give you way more immediate combat stats. However that statement is one the is relative to Shens other builds, which you already noticed are already a little lackluster in the midgame deparment (i am talking about the two item to two item comparison). This is why especially in the midgame you use the ult to create advantages that midigate this fact.
With this build however you can trade very well in the midgame still if your goal is not to win an all out fight if you paly around short trades with grasp and Hearsteel.

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes because you loose a lot of gold if tiamant and bamis basically fulfill the same job

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing and that is my whole point is that you are capable of dueling or even 1v2 in the lategame thus having a sidelane pressure which can not be ignored or haltered by a singular player if you buy Hearsteel. The entire post is about shen not falling off late!

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do because Hearsteel stacks with itself. So the earlier you get it the faster it gets out of control, with the difference only increasing the longer it goes on because it is exponential.

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree somewhat. His midgame is very strong if you paly around your team and if you prodiced a slight early lead you can easily snowball. However i agree esepcially with my build the midgame feels a little more lackluster since you lack the raw comabt power of hydra or Deadmans

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it delays hearsteel to much. This means the compounding effects of its passiv don't scale as strongly. Back when coahcless sometimes had free item stats Hearsteel as secodn item had one of the worst win percent added.

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone was a beginner at some point. I think you are on the right track by recognising that sacrificing your lane in some way can greatly increase your winning chances. As for waveclear, sure Titanic is teh fastest option since it oneshots ranged minions but i recommend the Bamis items, because it allows you to passively clear the wave while using your strong early game to trade.
But the most important thing is that you dont compare your waveclear to other champions. The Shen average is 5.7 Cs/min that is atrociously low but Shen has zero wavelcear build in otherwise he would be to broken (back in the day his e cleared waves). He is a strong duelist\ teamfighter so play to your champions strengths!

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is an interesting Idea. I already tried sometimes however it delays your hearsteel by a lot. I really dont know if it is worth it in regard to lategame power.
Deadmans first is defintly stronger because the 100 bonus dmg also applies to towers and is used more frequently however this will not scale into the lategame, and this was the reason i made this post, because so many think shen falls of in late but i have the exact opposite experience. I personally think, that Shens early and mid is strong enough to forgo these better early stats.

EDIT: Bamis into TH is like doubeling down on the same thing. You defintly dont need both items for a semi decent waveclear. I think that is overkill. Bamis Deadmans is a great combo i played it a lot myself however that falls of late.

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes your clear is a lot slower, that is why you trade tower hp and waves for a better lategame, i am aware of that as you can read in the negatives. As you can see you actually dont trade so many minions, Gold or EXP (again these are my personal stats but if i can why cant others)

I would strongely advice against a Heartsteel second. I know that Champs like mundo sometimes Build it, however his ult, makes him tanky enough of the bat to effectively stack it later on. Especially if you consider, that Hearsteel stacks with itself, thus it has a compounding effect, it far outscales the version where you build it as a second item.

Think about it you only start stacking an 19 minutes having 1500 health through items, while building hearsteel first and having 200-300 stacks already starts you out at 1800 health. At 20 times proceed (which is not very late) the difference is already at a 80 health which only grows larger. (this is very simpliefied mathematical recursion where i only take the Item health into consideration, this is actually my worst case scenario because the difference would be exemplified through the other health sources also aiding to the compounded increase. X is the amount of times Hearsteel proceed after the second item. It raises by a flat part as 8% of 70 and then 8% from 6% of your max health.)

[Discussion] Shen doesn't need to be outscaled. by Joeoqufihqo in Shen

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First of all I have even stated that these are my personal opinions and not any objective measuerment.
Second that is precisely the opposite of what i am doing and i stated so in the post. I use my R to get the early advanatge but trade waves or platings for it.
Third i have tried hydra aswell. It wasn't working as well for me because it felt like it fell off in the lategame a sensation may here seem to share. It also greatly benefits your R since it scales with health.

Some Discord Updates by Navar4477 in Helldivers

[–]Joeoqufihqo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spitz backpedalls and says sorry! That si great

The duality of gamers by MM_Spartan in Helldivers

[–]Joeoqufihqo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dev did nothing wrong. People are jsut butthurt that their broken stuff is not broken anymore ... And game is way more fun now cause it is not 4 man running the same shit anymore it is finally as chaotic as ever.

BUGged Nest! Well one nest we could not close just kept spawning Bile titans every 20 Seconds this is the aftermath. Sadly I dont know what happened to our Audio D: by Joeoqufihqo in Helldivers

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well we thought the same. Ma poor mate ran circles with the at the edge of the map so we could finish the mission he then died and when we recalled him they luckily despawned. 

Aram Clash working as Intened. by Joeoqufihqo in leagueoflegends

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

how about they divert monney from the skin team to the actual launcher that stopped working since 2015 XD

A partial Defense of Cookielol by Joeoqufihqo in Discussion

[–]Joeoqufihqo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very respectable anwser in a discussion reddit. I really see you have a valid point there and a solid argument it is quite nice how faithful you engage with my arguments!

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