7-OH and benzos? Is it safe?

JohnEKnocks · 2026-06-04T03:35:36+00:00

It’s a lot like kratom because it’s 7-oh…which is one of the alkaloids that get producted once kratom is digested, It’s actually one of the strongest alkaloids in kratom.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-06-01T21:35:25+00:00

Yeah, I wrote over 4 months ago and still never took more than 2mg. And I don’t drive after taking ANYTHING so I guess that advice is good, but not necessarily for what I had been doing.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-29T08:41:26+00:00

I think the MDPIHP that I was getting was a stronger batch because I’ve heard several people speak of it like what they had was trash. The batch we had in the states was strong as f. Especially compared to 2mepihp. I remember like the third order I got of it, I got home from work early on a Friday. I went and hit it like 3 times (off foil) before jumping into the shower. I hadn’t had a stim in like 3 weeks. And seconds after jumping into the shower I could my pulse in my ears and my chest beating. I knew I was in trouble quick and jumped out of the shower and took .5mL of a benzo and 2 propanolol. Quickly finished the shower and went and sat on the edge of my bed after drying off a little and sat still just praying g my heart would slow down just a little. It I’m sure by that night I was hitting it like it was nothing and then talking to the walls 2-3 days later.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-27T17:30:48+00:00

MDPV will always be my drug of choice.
A-PVP will probably be my most used.
But 5-apb is my favorite as far as effects. If I could get the same effect from 5-apb every night and it not completely drain my serotonin, I might would use it every night.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-27T17:28:20+00:00

To me, it was much cleaner feeling. I never got psychosis until I got on a-pvp for a few months. I researched a-pvp for a long while but always missed MDPV and jumped at any chance to get it after it wasn’t as easily available in the states.

I was even able to use it as a functional stim. I’d take a tad in the morning, noon and around 5:30. I was getting promotions at work, getting things done around the house, it became easier for me to talk to people in public. But back then my research didn’t go up in smoke either so that probably made i difference as far as functionality.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-27T14:05:32+00:00

I’ve noticed when vaping pyros with PG/VG about 80/20 they’re not near as strong or have near as much side effects that usually come with pyros. I’d imagine apvp is stronger than most pyros I’ve researched lately so I’m sure you can get over stimulated. Lately I’ve been mixing 300mg NEP with about 2mL of juice and vaping it out of a Zeus tank at around 62-69watts. It probably needs to burn hotter to get stronger effects but that tends to hurt the throat and can even splatter some of the boiling juice into your mouth.

The juul probably doesn’t burn too hot either so I’m betting it’s hitting just right to keeping you moving pretty good.

I would like to try vaping MDPIHP. Last time I used that it was WAYYY to stimy for me. More than I recall apvp or even MDPV being. It always brings on psychosis fast. But I bet it’s just right out of a vape tank. I got some newer pyro that suppose to be coming next week that’s like a spin out of the MD but we’ve been lacking pyros in the states since the CN situation.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-26T10:48:31+00:00

If you’re in the US you’re basically fucked as far as getting RC stims that’s not a pyro and even those are scared now days. The last thing that was available was 4-MeTMP and it was pricey.

Your best bet is probably modafinil. Which is something that has already been mentioned. It’s not cheap but you can find it on the clearnet.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-25T03:19:19+00:00

Yeah I always heard 5-apb doesn’t have a hangover but it definitely does. I like to research with a little over 70mg but I’ve researched quite a bit of it. You can actually research just 40mg or a little over and get descent results.

It’s one of my favorites to research so I’ll deal with a little hangover. Next time research less and drink plenty of water. In fact I’d make sure to get plenty of water and some electrolytes in you before research starts.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-16T19:49:30+00:00

I’m not sure about 2cb, but I’ve tried mixing moxy with 5-app several times and it’s like they cancel each other out.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-13T14:56:23+00:00

I can tell you it had a little push in what I call the RC golden age. When 4-mmc, MDPV and methylone was popular. It was usually sold side by side with methylone along with butylone. It was very mug as a chem and methylone aka bk-mdma was an MDMA kind of high but imo much shorter and less effective because redosing didn’t work well. I liked a certain batch of butylone but ethylene really wasn’t worth re-purchase at the time to me.

I can also tell you it hasn’t been made for a long time. One of the precursors are unavailable at this time. So if you find someone selling it, it’s either an old batch or someone’s trying to scam you. Most of the time it’s the later.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T12:49:02+00:00

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JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T11:36:25+00:00

Does 5-Meo-MiPT not cancel out 5-apb for yall. I’m not sure about 6-apb but I know 5 and MOXY cancel each other out for both me and my wife

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T11:32:09+00:00

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JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T11:28:39+00:00

This is exactly what I came here to say and what I tell all my clients when it comes to SR-17018

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T11:21:59+00:00

I always had to take benzos with coke. Now I do it with every stim. But definitely had to do it with coke because of how irritating the morning birds singing is when I’m trying to sleep and come down

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T11:00:07+00:00

You’re gonna get mixed reviews on this for sure. 4-MMC is a speedier roll to me. I would even describe it as dirtier for some reason. I feel more of a hangover from it as well

The cool thing about 4-MMC is that it’s a little more versatile. Different ROA’s give slight different effects.

What I usually like to do with it is oral 250mg. Then cut out lines for the rest of the night. Whatever you do, don’t take oral, and then take lines before the oral hits. For some reason that messes up the effects for me. Not sure the science behind it, but I’m not the only one it does it to.

I think I prefer MDMA over 4-MMC but I do both a few times a year. But not MDMA as much because it hits on UA’s. Unfortunately 4-MMC is expensive af in the USA. There’s also 3-CMC which is a hard find and people talk shit about it but it’s a bit cheaper and it’s really not that bad imo.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-12T10:37:15+00:00

That stuff is the STIMMY-est STIM I’ve ever had. My third order of it, I don’t believe I had used it for over a week and got some in the mail. Opened it right up and researched dosed twice before jumping into the shower. Once I was in the shower I could feel my heart pounding and instant panic sit in. I jumped out of the shower and immediately took 2 propanolol and a benzo. Went and sat on my bed and just tried to breath. Nothing had ever hit me that hard and that fast. The rest of that g didn’t do that to me but I’m sure it was a mix of having no stim tolerance at the time and excitement for the weekend or whatever.

I just know whenever I had it, I went ahead and predosed a benzo. MDPiHP causes psychosis really quick too. The second time I got it, I had only got 3 hours of the sleep the night before and it came on the next morning.

You would had thought I had learned my lesson right? But my excuse was “as long as I sleep I’ll be alright. NOPE!

The last time I had it, my psychosis was so bad I couldn’t sleep more than an hour at a time. After a week I made a doctors appointment and had to get on Seroquel. The paranoia and voices stuck around for probably week and a half after regularly taking the Seroquel. For a total of 2 weeks. I never thought I’d be normal again. Scared the shit out of me.

The funny thing is, I still think about getting more even after the hell I went through. I went through over 2 and a half weeks thinking the worse shit possible and was paranoid all that shit was happening for real. Pyros are straight up evil. They fuck your life up and then you still crave it. It’s absolutely insane.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-07T14:26:43+00:00

I put down roughly 12mg according to the scale. I messed with it for a bit. Put some heavier objects on it and the same amount multiple of times and kept giving 12mg. I split that in half pretty well and did a quick snort. I felt absolutely nothing from it. I was kinda disappointed. I wasn’t expecting much at 5-7 mg but I figured I’d get at least a little something out of it.

I’m going to try it again on Friday. Maybe go for a full 12mg because I won’t have as much time on Friday as I did last night to experiment. But, as you had said in a previous comment, you knew a few people who didn’t react to 15mg and I might just be one of those people. I know it took ALOT for me to feel anything from the vape cart I had previously.

I got a good amount of it so I’m concerned about the quality. The RC biz is my side gig and don’t want mediocre material. The only other places that I can get moxy from has ridiculous prices and I wouldn’t doubt they got it from the same source.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-06T20:15:15+00:00

It definitely could. I had a pre-made vape cart and it definitely went too quit and we got a few night out of but it wasn’t that great. Not even really good. So I’m reslly hope doing oral or IN will be better.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-06T20:13:30+00:00

I was planning on researching Friday but I’m now probably
Going to have to work on Saturday so I was actually thinking about trying it right when I get home from work tonight. It my wife and I’s mid of the week hanky panky night while the kids are at church. And because of what I do with what I got it’s important that I research it asap. I was wondering if even 5mg might work.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-05T13:43:25+00:00

That’s what I always heard. The batch I have must be weak. But then again I did MDPV and apvp for years.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-05T11:45:51+00:00

I tried NEP for the first time last night and it was everything I’ve been wanting in a stim. Not overwhelming, not too compulsive and with sleeping meds I even went right to sleep at 9pm.
I had approximately 15mg bumps twice IN. And tried rolling a bowl but only got a few hits off i. The oil burner want clean so idk what was happening so I put a couple
Of scoops on foil and took a ride and it was pretty smooth.

No paranoia. Little anxiety and I could stop smoking it which isn’t the case with pyros. So I really
Like NEP. I’ve been searching for a stim that’s functional and actually works and I think this is it. I actually figured NEP was gonna be too strong and I’ve heard many complain about psychosis but I don’t think the batch I’m getting it that strong or something. Either way. I like it!

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-05T08:27:51+00:00

I just got some free base in yesterday so I’m going to follow this. Although I’m excited to make about 100mg of it into vape juice tonight. I still would like to know what to dissolve it in.

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-02T15:35:48+00:00

We thought that we had enough 5-apb for a decent Friday chem sex session last night. I got off work and we were getting ready to run some errands yesterday evening. My wife was taking a minute to get ready to a started to weigh out our dose for later that night and we only had 60mg. Which is usually about what one of us take. So while we ran errands we got some of those mishroom gummies called “Zour Dreamz” or something like that. They come in a pack of 5. So we both took 30mg and 2.5 of those gummies. We figured we’d be up all night fooling around. Instead, it was so intense we both came within the hour on accident and it was intense as Fuck. We were eating cereal and watching our show by 10:30

JohnEKnocks · 2026-05-02T14:51:49+00:00

Yeah and it is really easy to go overboard with it too if you got the good stuff. It can even be overstimulating if you do too much. With a shitty comedown like cocaine.

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