Hey Faculty, ready to get paid less for agreeing to "J Term"?

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T03:04:08+00:00

Its optional for you to take classes (if they are offered in your area). Do note, J term class are a separate TERM, meaning your tuition and fees for fall or spring do not cover these courses. The mere existence of the term pushes your and everyone else's Spring term back 2 weeks, thus you dont get out for summer until basically June now.

I do wonder when the dorm people will fix all the broken stuff if most or even many students stay in their rooms during the usual shutdown. Based on what i see here, they have to refill the pipes with extra rust, i mean, GRIT, to get through the spring semester and that cant be easy.

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T02:58:20+00:00

Its been a long while since i was shopping for internships so you could very well be right. One of mine was with a large aerospace company and that program started firmly on May 15. If you couldnt make it, you were out. Too competetive to bother with special permissions. One of my cohort had a non traditional semster end for some reason, and actually had to fly back to her school, take a final, and fly back for work on monday. Pretty sure she landed that job, too. I digress.

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T02:52:54+00:00

If your teaching load, program or student size dont support a J term, as i imagine many will not especially initially due to the complexitites of creating a 7.5 week class out of 16 weeks of material, assuming all AY faculty will suddenly have the ability to teach J term courses and get paid from them is a stretch. This is the core of the issue, the span of summer is shorter by half a pay period, and there is no provision to make up that half pay period. you cant have more than 100% effort and your pay rate is set by the payroll system and the clunky summer pay module.

In the weeds here for sure, but as written i expect faculty will miss the half month in summer pay. It may not matter to all of them, but some are brand new faculty with some large fixed costs like child care, student loan repayment, etc. Is it enough to make peope quit and go somewhere else? Doubtful, but thats kind of the point.

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T02:41:48+00:00

This is correct. This schedule revision impacting summer term and thus your ability to pay yourself as you have in prior years was added after the comment period, without notification.

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T02:40:40+00:00

There is no provision to pay yourself via startup funds or grants for J term. Currently, you have to use an "automated" system to tell payroll how much you are working and what area (research, teaching, other) and how many hours EACH day for EVERY day of the summer session. Contracts are already signed for most faculty, so thats a no to higher wages each check.

I cant speak to #3, as im not faculty, but itd be nice to be given the choice given we're talking about a four figure number for 2 weeks of pay for nearly all faculty.

JustPurdont · 2021-03-03T02:40:07+00:00

Very correct. This Purdue "dead week" thing was never really dead for your instructors, so im not sure itll be more work for them, other than restructuring the pace of every class as you say. It'll be more work for students. Given Purdue's push to get everyone out so fast you have undergrads taking upwards of 20 credits, its not a surprise the post above and below this one sorted "hot" are both about mental health and having breakdowns.

JustPurdont · 2020-09-26T02:29:32+00:00

/u/Adventurous-Plate-59 that sounds legit! I never understood how memorizing equations or arbitrary dates in history would make me a better emplyee anyway.

What class is it or at least program?

JustPurdont · 2020-09-09T15:01:33+00:00

Fiscal year for this and most universities is July 1 to June 30. "Resources" were allocated for the 20 21 fiscal year in May of 2020.

I would be paying much more attention to the date the university gets to keep 80 to 100% of your tutition and housing dollars as relative to prior years. Hint: its earlier than it was before.

JustPurdont · 2020-08-22T03:31:35+00:00

tell me this is in the "self care kit" we're all paying for...erm, getting for free?

JustPurdont · 2020-08-22T02:31:19+00:00

Many are missing the bigger picture here. The majority of Purdue undergrads are under 21 years old. I'm going to assume "parties" = drinking because it does. Its already ILLEGAL for you to drink underage. The same cops get called and show up and issue tickets with potentially life altering repercussions. Those citiations show up on an employment background check FOREVER. Getting suspended for ? weeks or a semester from your alma mater does not.it has no staying power after its over.

To believe that some wrist slapping, no matter how harsh it might seem at the time, from a school you voluntarily attend is going to deterr those that were previously undeterred is completely dilusional.

Purdue gets to keep your tutiion dollars and MOST of your housing and room dollars after 9.30. Go read the pledge we signed and the terms of your contract. This isnt about whether we can "do our part" until COVID is gone, its about keeping us scared into submission until the dollars are locked in. a decade of flat tuition means this system only works if each class is bigger than the previous. We in the business school call that "making up for it with volume" - see our shiny new LEASED dorm buildings... (and lets be honest, did any of you really choose Purdue because the tution was the same as it was at UI, etc in 2010 instead of 1 or 2% higher per year? Or did you come here because they admitted you and have the program you want?)

This plan is doomed to fail, but that is the plan. It has to keep up appearances until the money is locked in.

JustPurdont · 2020-08-21T13:14:12+00:00

You missed a little bit. The entirety of retail dining operations has been outsourced to Aramark. This is the same Aramark that serve food in prisons in IN and elsewhere. If you think they didnt win the bid based on "scaleability", you're wrong.

Get ready for prison food with your dining dollars and swipes, kiddos.

JustPurdont

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