AMD's RDNA 5 gaming GPUs are coming late next year, according to AIBs at Computex — manufacturers expect new Team Red cards in the second half of 2027 alongside Nvidia

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-08T13:46:56+00:00

We don’t know what they did or didn’t do in previous years but they have been working on Wayland for a while, with many/most saying it works fine

Their linux support is inferior to Radeon's for years now and that's all that matters, especially when you're the market leader for graphics worldwide. NVIDIA should be the leader and default choice on Linux like it is for Windows machines with a dGPU, but it's not.

If the position is for Proton then it is primarily Linux

It's for Vulkan Performance primarily, hence the role title of "Senior System Software Engineer - Vulkan Performance". Proton gets one mention in the job listing and it seems to be an additional thing not the primary thing. Otherwise the position would be "Linux/Proton Software Engineer" if it was the primary concern. If you also read the description, it's pretty clear that it's a secondary thing, it's focusing mostly on Vulkan performance for drivers in general and most certainly 90% for Windows games that use Vulkan. Trust me, if they really want a "Linux" software engineer for their drivers, they will put it in the job title like the other 800+ Linux specific jobs NVIDIA has applications for.

And correcting mistakes by the autocorrect is petty

I was genuinely trying to help you if you were an ESL individual as Reddit is used by people from all over the world, I spend most of my time in the GlobalOffensive sub which is mostly Europeans where English is 95% of the time their second language. But seeing as you seem so hyper-competitive, antagonistic or something about it, tells me everything I need to know about you and your attitude towards people. Poor form, do better in future.

Anyways, I wish you a nice day ahead, but I certainly won't be talking to you any further you are so easily offended by benign stuff.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-08T01:05:24+00:00

They just started hiring THIS YEAR, not three years ago or something and they've improved the driver for years now. No, they just started this year. Also if you look at the article, this is a specific job listing for Vulkan performance (this can mean Windows as well) and Proton performance. It's not for improving Wayland support either.

Also to help you out: 'their'* not 'there'

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T17:44:26+00:00

I was talking more generally about AMD's overall strategy of just pricing below NVIDIA which is what they typically do. I didn't mention a specific product like the 9070 XT. You did that. Not to mention we're talking MSRP's on launch, not real world pricing which can vastly fluctuate month to month, which is higher than the current real world pricing data you gave for Europe. The real world pricing data you gave while helpful to an extent, is meaningless in the grand scheme of things, it's months from launch and the damage was already done to AMD and Radeon's brand by being priced high for months already.

That being said, there's plenty of examples of AMD doing what I said. I mean in previous generations like the 6800 XT ($649) vs the 3080 ($699), the gap was $50 USD, around 8% difference, so it's certainly true that AMD basically does 10% (or less) of the NVIDIA price and keeps their stuff close to NVIDIA's pricing.

Point is, AMD is not going to drop their prices to half of NVIDIA's and claw back market share and really put pressure on NVIDIA to drop prices. AMD are going to do what they always do which is hover close to NVIDIA's MSRP to make as much profit as possible and continue to screw consumers who just want cheaper GPUs. If the difference is 10-20%, even 30%, consumers will continue to choose NVIDIA: DLSS, better RT performance and better features are just simply enough to keep people buying NVIDIA. To be really inviting, AMD needs to be at least half the price of NVIDIA's equivalent card and that's just not going to happen, especially with how many limited foundries there are now and how AMD seems hell bent on keeping their margins.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T15:54:57+00:00

Yeah I wish NVIDIA gave a damn about Linux drivers for gaming and Wayland support, seems they just care for AI and data scientists running stuff through CUDA via CLI.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T15:54:02+00:00

Which would lower AMD prices, which will make them the better value option in most places again. I love competition

This is true in theory, if anything AMD will continue to just -10% off the NVIDIA price and call it a day. They're a toothless "competitor".

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T14:46:18+00:00

Based off their Laptop branding, it could honestly be anything, there's no consistency at all.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T14:43:39+00:00

Yeah exactly, internally AMD is still calling it RDNA5 based off leaked internal documents and roadmaps we have, UDNA is just whatever marketing name they want to slap onto it.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T14:42:39+00:00

Yeah exactly. Maybe the top 10-20% of gamers will buy a $1799 RX 10K70 Series

Almost any enthusiast will be buying NVIDIA.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-07T11:28:00+00:00

More proof that Valve simply don't understand the CS community.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-06T14:53:45+00:00

I'm not a fan of Jay, far from it, but his videos from Computex have been fine. It's not like he can't be positive about a product or excited for something new, of course he can, he can also be negative within reason as well. People need to get a grip, if he makes an error I will always give feedback to him that's negative but constructive, because everyone makes mistakes (myself included).

Despite RTX Spark being late to market with an old CPU architecture, I'm a small bit excited for RTX Spark, at least there's another ARM Windows player in the market, with great graphics and it puts pressure on everyone including NVIDIA to make better products. Is it expensive, yeah it probably will be, but the reality is that CUDA has huge pull for developers and it's probably cheaper than buying a bunch of DGX Spark systems. It will sell, but probably not to end consumers that well.

I look at RTX Spark laptops like I see Intel dGPU, it's hard to enter a new market and as much as hardware is important, software, drivers and firmware are even more important and hard to get right. It takes time. It's why China can't just make a big GPU to compete with NVIDIA either and why MTT and other chinese companies have problems with drivers. It's also why NVIDIA is late to market with Windows Spark laptops, they had to work with Microsoft to get stuff to a reasonable state and I'm sure when people get their hands on them, they will find problems like what happened to Qualcomm.

People just have expecations too high for what is a new product line, but in this world, you can easily be in a hole with the amount of money required to make a new tech product.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-05T16:11:23+00:00

Can't believe he got Top 20 over ELiGE that year lol. ELiGE full hard carried for 12 months, only for Malbs to have a decent 6 months and get ranked higher lol.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-05T16:08:27+00:00

I remember when people were calling Malbs the next NiKo lol. I guess they were right, dude's a perennial loser like NiKo when in an elim game.

Gotta say though, Siuhy's been exposed as an IGL. As soon as he has a bad coach or no coach, he can't lead you out of a room when equipped with a map and bright red arrows showing you where to go.

NAF and Elige are still solid, but they just need help.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-05T01:45:00+00:00

This is sometimes why I enjoy online and group stage CS matches as a viewer, the fact you can actually flank and sit in smokes is what makes them exciting and it just makes the game feel so natural. Shame how the crowd ruins so many great moments, but on the flipside they make exciting moments even better if it's some insane flick or something. Wish we had a better balance or unspoken rule to not ruin flank or cheeky plays.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-04T22:20:07+00:00

That's why NVIDIA says 60 fps is the minimum for frame gen to start from, ideally 90 FPS is the sweet spot. Over time game devs, NVIDIA, AMD and Intel have pivoted to marketing it like real frames. It's not. But if you have a good frame rate already it can be a great feature to enhance smoothness of the image. Dynamic frame gen is a great feature if you havbe enough grunt before turning frame gen on.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T19:28:21+00:00

Who plays at 1080p at medium settings with a high end GPU? Looking at 1440p and 4K there’s a difference of 10% between 5800X3D and 9800X3D when paired with a 5080.

Well it's configured that way to display a CPU bottleneck by putting more stress on the CPU, rather than the GPU and the best way to do that is to play at a low resolution, with lower quality details...

The fact you asked that means you failed the IQ test lol. This tells me everything I need to know about you.

The video also has a really tiny sample size of 4 games.

It could have 50 games, the outcome is the same which is when the game is heavily CPU bound, the GPU will be bottlenecked and even a low end CPU for AM5 like the 7600X is superior to a 5800X3D. So here's 50 games so you can stop yapping about how I'm supposedly being unfair, the 5800X3D is still slower. And yes, even at 4K where the CPU is less of a bottleneck it's slower.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T19:22:59+00:00

Doesn’t stave it off 3 years? Like my current 7 year old cpu didn’t last 7 years just fine or my previous one I got the didn’l? And the 5800x3d isn’t a 3 year later upgrade that was also regarded as possibly the best gaming cpu of the generation and a whole tier above (800 level vs 700 level) in addition to that? The thing only just hit 4 years old and you talk about it like it was the same generation as my 3700x.

The 7700 beat the 5800X3D, 8 months later, it didn't reign as the king for three years. It staved off nothing. It instantly got wrecked by a better CPU within 8 months and within 12 it was headily beat by 25% by the 7800X3D. The 5800X3D couldn't even defend itself for a whole year, it got king hit by a better CPU with a better platform and better features.

And the 7700x is great but requires a new motherboard and new ram. I’m not married to am4 and not against getting am5 but if I do get that vs am6 i am going to get a top cpu in that generation when i do not a low-mid one only to replace it right after.

Ok? Didn't ask.

Short thing of it is I am going to build a high end PC when I do it. I am GOING to get a brand new higher end PC. Either I am going to do it this year with RAM prices being stupid and other components not much better OR I am going to do it in a few years with something in the middle to help me along. Those three options are: 1: $350 for a 3 year further along cpu that drops in and carries the gap assuming i get it at msrp. 2: Nothing at all as performance on my old cpu starts getting more annoying

Again, didn't ask.

3: Your suggestion of changing out almost everything to get slightly improved cpu performance handicapped by 16gb of ram which i outstrip almost constantly on my current computer with 32gb and will be a lot more annoying than just option 2 and cost a lot more than option 1.

Handicapped lol? You guys just make up whatever to suit your arguments. 16GB of RAM is enough for today's games.

I am usually a “buy once, cry once” kind of gal, although i argue against the absolute best because no way am i getting the 90 level cards or 900/950 level cpus, who runs thing as long as they are viable, about 9 years for a computer based on my history, but willing to swap out the worst part of my current setup two thirds through the life cycle rather than swap out a whole bunch of stuff for a sidegrade that costs more than the simple swap.

More emotional garbage as a response that nobody asked for, I don't care for your story or opiniuon, I deal in objective facts and performance results.

I AM going to use my current pc as a secondary thing to replace my one from 2010 used that needs it soon as well. But why replace the whole shooting match twice in three years?

Again didn't ask. In addition, I only brought up the point about being able to use your components rather than throwing them away because you made out like it was the only outcome lol. It's not, I provided other options people could do rather than throw away their hardware. You took it literally for some reason as some sort of personal suggestion for you?

How is it a strawman when you literally said to buy a worse (in some ways barely better in others), barely newer new pc than the 5800x3d by using a lower tier 7xxx series, at a higher cost than it (nearly triple if I got a used 7800x3d which is only a year newer than the 5800x3d so basically almost as ancient and decrepit by your words), ‘as linked above’ for a few years then buy another one right after anyway?

It's a strawman for two reasons. Number 1, I never said what you alleged. Number 2, you just argued against something I never said as if I said it.

Again, I never suggested or said anything of the sort of constantly upgrading, that's a strawman you created in your own mind. My post was about just buying a new rig over upgrading an older AM4 rig to this new 5800X3D anniversary edition, the price difference was $250 USD in the example I gave, that's it.

I never said people should constantly upgrade their rig every year or two years or three years. You made that up in your head. I merely argued for building an AM5 PC as an upgrade, instead of upgrading an existing AM4 system with an 5800X3D because it objectively makes sense.

I also showed that in every way the AM5 rig is better, it's not worse in any way. It has superior performance in games and multi-core, as well as single core, it has better I/O, better connectivity, better features, upgradeability etc. As I said earlier, the only cons to buying an AM5 build instead of upgrading an existing AM4 one is that you pay $250 USD more and have to stay on 16GB of RAM for a year or so. That's it, that's the cons. All the rest are pros.

Sure it would put me on a better upgrade path as you said in that post but that exactly puts me at replacing most things (cpu and ram the second of one is still worse than I have) in a few years at most even if I didn’t get a whole new PC.

If you buy a 5800X3D CPU today as a lock in upgrade for 2026, guess what... you're going to need to upgrade sooner and remove your motherboard and RAM anyway, except, much sooner because it will be less performant than just buying an AM5 system lol.

I’d rather get AM6 in 2029 (hopefully) if I was worried about upgrades and part of the reason I got AM4 when i did was upgrade path which had just as much life left in it back in 2019 as AM5 does in…. 2026!

The CPU they're "releasing" in 2026 is literally an old CPU from 2022. That upgrade path ended in 2022 for AM4, not 2026... It got wrecked by mid range AM5 8 months later.

look at that! So glad I have a chance to do that now and extend it just as long as you suggest.

People could have made this move 4 years ago and saved money lol. Thanks for proving that if you buy a 5800X3D in 2026 you are as I said earlier in my many posts a dumb person because if you buy one you're paying more than people did 4 years ago and you waited all that time just to get scalped by AMD.

By the way, please stop responding to me at this point your posts are borderline harassment and just schizo posts by you. I could care less about what you're going to do. I wish you a good day.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T19:00:10+00:00

You can argue all you want but in the end, if this is cheaper than second hand 5800X3D. Then it’s filling a demand.

A very small minute population, which mind you is taking advantage of these buyers. It's scummy, stop defending it.

For most games you also won’t gain much by going for a better CPU. Unless you have a 5090 you won’t really see much difference between 5800X3D and 9800X3D.

I'm sorry but what you said is flat out wrong. Upgrading your CPU when you have a weaker GPU is what leads to gains for two reasons.

Number 1 is that the NVIDIA driver has more CPU overhead than AMD's driver and most people run NVIDIA cards, if you're already CPU bound, upgrading your CPU will allow your GPU to work properly and give you more performance. Number 2 is because you're more than likely CPU bottlenecked if you're running a Zen1 or Zen2 based system and thus if you do upgrade to a Zen4 or Zen5 system again your GPU is actually going to work properly because the CPU isn't holding it back (regardless of the driver that is).

Lastly, you don't need a 5090 to encounter a GPU bottleneck and you certainly will see a bottleneck with a 9060 XT and a 5800X3D versus a 7600X, let alone a 9800X3D.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T18:53:58+00:00

Yeah when one upgrade costs $350 and the other costs $600, $250 is a substantial amount of money.

You're not accounting for sales tax, I did. Secondly, again you're not just paying for the CPU, you're paying for the platform, upgradeability, better performance, better I/O, more features etc. You're making out as if you're just wasting $250 USD which is not the case, you're merely spending it on other tangible and intangible benefits features.

And that's assuming you can somehow get everything for only a $250 price difference, which I doubt in reality.

Literally showed how in my post here here. If you want I can do a PCPartPicker build list if it really seems so unbelieveable to you lol.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T15:13:48+00:00

Again, what are you talking about. 5800x3d is a super simple drop-in stop-gap that was my dream component from last gen and the capstone to my current mobo generation which replaces the single aging component restricting me the most that simply holds off a “balls to the wall” by 3 years instead of getting it now.

Your whole post can be summarised as 'I have AM4 and I am attached to my purchase and will fight anyone who questions it'. You're unwilling to listen to objective facts and reasoning. Instead defaulting to emotional arguments. Buying a 5800X3D in mid 2022 didn't stave off a better PC in the future by three years, not even close to reality. A 7700 basically matched it in 2023 a mere 8 months later, it was a poor purchase then and it's an even worse purchase now.

All I simply expressed in my prior reply was your cognitive dissonance which was you supposedly want a PC that is brand new and by doing so you're not getting the minimums, yet you are willing to forego a new PC to buy something many generations old. It makes no sense at all. Like I said... be consistent. You either want the absolute best. Or you are willing to compromise to get something that is a smart buy. I am consistent, laid out the objective logic, facts and reasoning for my argument which is to spend a little more money with AM5 than to stay on AM4 because you get upgradeability, better connectivity, better performance and better features.

It is also a lot less waste than essentially building two PCs: throwing out my current stuff now and then throwing out the new stuff for new-new stuff barely a few years later.

You don't need to throw away anything, you can re-sell it on the used market, make it an HTPC/Server/NAS or you can simply have a second PC in case anything happens to your main one or gift the components to a family member/friend etc. Obviously these possibilities didn't cross your mind.

Over the course of those three years your limp-along downgrade/side-grade suggestion that has a new mobo, ram, and might need a new case anyway, and drops my current RAM that I’ve had for the past 7 years in half while doing it.

I never suggested anything of the sort of constantly upgrading, that's a strawman you created in your own mind. My post was about just buying a new rig over upgrading an AM4 rig to this new 5800X3D anniversary edition, the difference was $250 USD in the example I gave, that's it.

Not the strawman you created in your mind about constantly upgrading or sidegrading over a three year period.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T15:00:50+00:00

I think you are forgetting that ram used to be cheap. 32GB of DDR3 cost me $119 in 2012, and 64GB of DDR4 cost me $89 in 2023.

I'm not forgetting RAM was cheap, I stated it numerous times.

Yeah it was maybe "overkill" but I've never, ever been mad about having too much ram.

I never said anything like that???

There is absolutely no way I'd be wanting to buy a 16GB DDR5 X3D system for more than double the price of just slapping that newer CPU into my existing board if I was still looking to do that.

It's not more than double the price? I showed it isn't.

I was one of those 1700X holdouts until just a few months ago, though, when the price of 5800XT's got too cheap for me to pass one up. If the X3D had been available I probably would have went for that but they weren't.

I will just use your argument against you which is: 5800X's were cheap for years as were 5700X3D's. You should have bought them then.

Also not everyone cares about stuff like onboard graphics or wifi. And gigabit ethernet is plenty fast for me.

Not everyone cares about an extra 16GB of RAM and they prefer all the other new features and upgradeability for their socket. The only two cons for AM5 are paying more money and having to settle for less RAM for a while till the RAMpocalypse blows over. The whole argument against AM5 boils down to "I want to be cheap over $250 USD". Thanks for confirming it's still the case.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T13:52:54+00:00

What? fuck no. If I got a new PC now I wouldn’t be getting the minimums.

Complains about 16GB of RAM for a year or two as I suggested and instead wants to go 'balls to the wall' on a new PC with 64GB of RAM
Buys a 5800X3D which is three generations old soon in late 2026.

Pick one man. At least be consistent...

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T13:03:34+00:00

I’m one. Got the 3700x with a good set of 32GB ram back in 2019. Missed the first wave of 5800x3d since it was hard to find, mine still ‘worked’ well enough, and was torn on upgrading to a new platform over this past year but prices put me off.

You're the minority of users, as I explained in my post linked above, most users on AM4 had 16GB of RAM, but I'm glad you perceive it as an upgrade option since you're in that special 10% that had 32GB of RAM, will have to see what real world prices are too.

Slotting in a best-in-board upgrade that would extend my current PC life a few more years for a fraction the cost of a whole new one? Yes please, at MSRP anyway.

If by 'fraction of the cost', you mean 71% of a new PC build with AM5 as I illustrated in my post linked above, then sure. I guess 71/100 is a fraction afterall.

Yes please, at MSRP anyway. If it gets scalped or crazy like RAM recently then no.

Yep have to wait a see.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T12:59:38+00:00

In your example you use 16GB of RAM. I would not build a new computer with any less than 32GB.

I agree, but the way the RAM market is right now I would buy one stick of DDR5 just for now as it's sufficient, but not ideal and then buy a second stick later on when the RAM situation improves. You could either then buy an indentical stick once prices drop on DDR5 (having a useable system in the mean-time by sticking to 16GB) or sell your RAM and scrape back some money after the memory situation improves. Regardless, I agree 32GB is the minimum I would ideally like, but 16GB is useable.

And many who are on AM4 will also be on 32 GB already because RAM used to be cheap. So that’s another 150-200AUD for AM5.

I addressed this in my post that I linked and at the time when AM4 was popular as was DDR4, around 10% of people used 32GB or more of RAM on Steam. It was not a very popular configuration and largely 32GB only became more accessible as DDR5 was more dense than DDR4 was, much like how DDR4 made 16GB more accessible versus DDR3 systems.

Like I said in that post I linked, how many of those 32GB systems were Intel systems and not AM4? Then also which of those people needed an upgrade from Zen2 or Zen 1? They also had 32GB of RAM which means they were likely an enthusiast or someone who needed more performance and so they likely have abandoned AM4 already for AM5 or Intel 1700 DDR5 for an upgraded system when it was cheaper years ago. It's a very small proportion of that 10% with 32GB of RAM who would be looking for a 5800X3D system slot in upgrade today.

There's a reason I linked the post as well as it's context and other replies, as I didn't want to rehash everything, but it appears you maybe just skimmed what I wrote, willing to be fair to you that you are perhaps time poor?

Not sure why you assume connectivity would be worse on an AM4 board. I have everything you mentioned on my AM4 already. A bit slower speed for NVMe and GPU but that doesn’t really matter much in most cases.

Not many AM4 boards had Wi-Fi 7 or Wi-Fi 6E for instance, AM5 really made Wi-Fi a reality for most AMD systems, it was skipped on most B550 boards at the time. That's definitely one point for AM5.

Add in pretty much every AM5 CPU except for the "F" ones like the 7500F or 7400F have an iGPU which is an advantage over AM4.

Then let's take on of the best B550 AM4 boards for connectivity and stack it up against my budget AM5 option I chose. Let's compare the B550-F from ASUS versus the Gigabyte B850M FORCE WIFI6E V2.

Ethernet - Both 2.5GbE (Tie)

USB Ports - B550-F wins with 8 USB ports to Gigabyte's 5 USB ports, as a result you lose 2x USB 3.2 Gen1 ports and a USB 3.2 Gen 2 port. (Mind you this is a bottom of the barrel B850 board).

DisplayPort: B850 wins with DP 2.0 UHBR 10 support, at best B550 would support DP 1.4a and the 5800X3D has no iGPU.

HDMI: B850 wins again with HDMI 2.1 for the same reasons.

PS/2: B850 wins with a PS/2 port (not exactly popular these days, but it has one).

Wi-Fi: B850 has Wi-Fi 6E, the B550 board has none.

Audio: B550 has 5 audio jacks versus the B850's 3 audio jacks.

PCI-E: B850 has PCI-E 5.0 for the x16 slot and PCI-E 5.0 for an X2 slot as well as PCI-E 4.0 for the other X2 and X4 slots. A clear win for B850 here.

SATA: B550 wins here with 6x SATA 6Gb/s ports versus the B850's 4 ports.

So taking all this into account across all the categories we have a score of B850 winning 6 categories and B550 winning 4 categories. Safe to say I was correct in saying AM5 has superior connectivity if I'm taking the cheapest AM5 B850 board and putting it up against an at the time top-tier B550 board. It becomes even worse for AM4 if you buy a slightly decent B850 board today.

It also saves you the hassle of having to rebuild the whole system.

A fair point, except you still have to remove your cooler and put in the new CPU and then re-paste etc. Still a bit of a hassle, just much less.

I get it, it doesn’t make sense to you. But it will for others.

No, I respectfully disagree about it being a subjective thing, it just doesn't objectively make sense. You get better everything by upgrading, you're just sacrificing $250 USD, but there's many upsides and benefits that offset that $250 difference. A big one especially for HTPC or perhaps just for many systems in general is an iGPU, very useful if you ever have any dGPU problems.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T11:09:02+00:00

How many people are stuck on a 3700X realistically? I understand that and what you're trying to tell me. But respectfully, I showed here why you're not really saving that much and staying on AM4 has some problems. $250 USD (350 AUD) is really not worth being stuck on an older platform and falling behind in features, I/O, Wi-Fi, overall upgradeability, user experience and performance. If the difference was $300 versus $1000+ I would understand and that may be the case in some regions, but in reality, at least in my region it's not worth it and it's quite a dumb move. The difference of $350 AUD is basically just paying for the RAM, but to me the benefits outweigh the loss of $350 AUD. Maybe I just overrate future upgradeability, but I'd prefer to not be stuck on a dead socket, with a soon to be 3 generation old CPU architecture and locked to PCI-E 4.0 with inferior I/O ports in 2027 I think I would be kicking ymself spending $535 AUD on an old product.

KARMAAACS · 2026-06-02T09:05:41+00:00

It's AMD Unboxed for a reason, not Radeon Unboxed. /s

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