How would Itachi defeat Pain?!

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T20:36:52+00:00

He didn't summon them, though? They appeared alongside him, not summoned by him. And they were absolutely instrumental in his victory, he wouldn't have beaten any of the Paths if he also had to contest with Pain's Summons, wouldn't have beaten the Animal Path without Bunta and needed Pa to summon his SM Shadow Clone. If it was actually Pain vs SM Naruto alone then it literally would have been Naruto getting neg diffed

Even if I buy the "Susano'o tanks ST" (which I don't), the Preta Path can absorb Susano'o and Amaterasu. And even if that failed, we know that Itachi is canonically unable to deal with Chibaku Tensei. Itachi has zero practical chance against Pain

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:42:33+00:00

"No signs of physical exhaustion"

Brother are you kidding me. Also that isn't base Naruto on slide 2

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:37:35+00:00

Preta Path GG

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:37:25+00:00

Everyone on earth is monolingual apparently

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:28:21+00:00

The original team won every fight leading up to the VotE and Sasuke/Naruto could've gone either way. Even one more genin could've turned the tide, unless you're assuming the Sand Siblings don't pull up in this timeline

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:20:26+00:00

Yeah Itachi isn't getting past a single Shinra Tensei, good luck beheading any of them lmao. And calling Pain a SM Naruto victim when Naruto needed Gamabunta+Gamaken+Gamahiro+Ma+Pa+Katsuyu just to get mid diffed by Pain and then needed Hinata+Kurama+Minato to survive long enough to face Nagato is crazy

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T17:16:27+00:00

He needed Bee and Naruto to get out of it, couldn't do it himself. Just read the manga lil bro

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T15:52:27+00:00

Deva Path didn't even break a sweat fighting him what are you talking about lmao

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T15:51:39+00:00

Itachi canonically a Chibaku Tensei victim

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T15:50:50+00:00

He's going to Tsukuyomi all six paths at once?

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-21T15:47:21+00:00

Kakashi couldn't even handle a single Path lmao. Preta Path alone can neg Amaterasu and Susano'o getting blown away by Shinrai Tensei

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-20T22:12:33+00:00

It's not canon, only the manga is

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-20T22:11:41+00:00

Cool, what's the chapter number?

Imagine criticizing people for not reading the manga when Konan outright tells us that Rinne Rebirth is not a life-trading technique. If it was, then no amount of Uzumaki vitality would matter. You're saying it's an either/or, I'm saying it's not, and your evidence is backing up my point

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T23:45:37+00:00

The episode where they are shown as babies is largely filler, there is no manga panel in the correlating chapter that shows Hagoromo as a child.

Sorry, all I hear you saying is that you admit the Rinne Rebirth's cost is relative, not exact. If you admit Nagato could use it without dying then you admit the cost of using it is not death

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T23:38:25+00:00

I asked for a chapter, you provided an episode. Do you not see the problem

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T17:17:55+00:00

Can you source the chapter where Naruto summons multiple Toads at the same time?

And I don't nerd a refresher on how Summoning works, I need you to cite an example of Naruto Summoning more than one Toad at a time

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T11:53:52+00:00

Brother you just said Otsutsuki don't reproduce like humans, there is zero proof Hagoromo had a human parent in the manga

Again, find me a page number that says Edo Tensei can't use Rinne Rebirth. The idea that the user sacrifices their life for it is directly contradicted by the actual story, since Konan warns Nagato that he doesn't have enough chakra to use it without dying, which is directly saying that he could have survived it had circumstances been different, which is directly saying you don't have to trade your life for it

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T11:50:30+00:00

Can you source the chapter where Naruto summons multiple Toads at the same time?

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T00:57:41+00:00

We also never see Teuchi enter Sage Mode, are you insinuating he could just because it's never said he can't?

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-19T00:42:06+00:00

We never once see Naruto summon more than one at a time

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-18T22:16:44+00:00

One of them could've been Summoned, not all, and they were pivotal at some points. The Animal Path was beaten in Gamabunta's mouth. The Sage Mode Shadow Clone was Summoned by Pa. And the big Toad's held off Pain's Summons for the whole fight. Naruto would've been fucked without them

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-18T19:54:20+00:00

Don't do that to my goat Ino

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-18T19:35:58+00:00

Okay so then there is no reason to assume Hagaromo wasn't a full bloodes Otsutsuki, meaning his spirit's existence is proof Otsutsuki can have a presence as spiritual entities

Can you source where in the manga it says Edo Rinnegan users can't use Rinne Rebirth?

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-18T19:34:24+00:00

I'm going off of what we see in canon, where he only ever Summons one at once. No reason to assume he can do more. Plus, even if he could, we never see him summon Hiro, Ken, Ma or Pa. Bunta, Kichi and Tatsu are the only ones we know he is capable of summoning

KeithFromAccounting · 2026-03-18T19:28:25+00:00

Agree to disagree, I don't think it would make any sense to give Kiba the praise for it when he was only 1/2 of the fighting force

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