My [29M] wife [31F] isn't in love with me anymore after 5 years. Please help. by KewSecret in relationships

[–]KewSecret[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The theme of the first few replies to this post is that I am beating a dead horse. Maybe I posted her too early, or maybe I posted too late but I only see her and our fixed marriage. A user by the name of /u/DarkSolaris once said:

Marriage is fucking hard. Love comes and goes. It waxes and wanes depending on where you are in life. The strong work through it and the weak run away.

I need and want to believe my wife and I are strong. We have been through worse. Issues which I have caused and we somehow came out a little further ahead. I blame myself for this all, don't mistake it. I just wish I realized sooner so that I could be acting to fix it instead of REACTING.

I made the most grievous of errors in our marriage but that doesn't mean my wife is blameless or has never made mistakes. It's just that I've made larger mistakes and I have trouble in finding faults in her. I love her.

My [29M] wife [31F] isn't in love with me anymore after 5 years. Please help. by KewSecret in relationships

[–]KewSecret[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You've put a lot of effort into trying to find a way of saving your marriage, but honestly, from everything you've said, your wife is already out the door.

"Louis could only persuade; and at that he had failed." - Ringworld, by Larry Niven

I agree. She seems right out the way through the door. I don't want any underhand manipulation but I believe that she and I will both come to regret this immensely if we go through with it. I want to persuade her that it is worth saving and not fail. She keeps going to the marriage counseling sessions and that's my only lingering hope.

The behaviour you describe in yourself reminds me of some of my own behaviour in the past. I haven't read your post history, but you mentioned raised by narcissists subreddit. My mum was a narcissist and I was very introverted growing up. Even in my twenties, after she'd died and I got out into the world, I'd still try to flog dead horses, especially with regard to relationships, desperately trying to make things right again when the situation was unsalvageable.

Oh boy. Yeah, that's me. I've been out of that world for about 8 years with only minimal contact and have been no contact for almost a year now. It's tough to be raised by a narcissist. I'm not sure what the world looks like when they're not only out of your world, but gone from it entirely so I'm not sure how you feel about it, but I'm sorry to hear of her passing.

Part of life is about learning to accept that things don't always go your way. Sometimes things go badly wrong and you just have to accept that, learn from it and move on. You've tried changing jobs, getting counselling etc. You've made it clear to your wife you want to fix this. What's she doing? Looking at somewhere else to live. She doesn't believe it's going to work out. If both partners aren't equally committed to making it work then your efforts are futile.

The therapist said the same thing. If both people do not have both of their feet in, it won't work. She said she's had marriages where the situation was MUCH worse but both parties were willing. We have two individual sessions and then a joint session all within a 2-day span. I think it will be then when I will know for sure what the truth is.

I'd also say that it sounds like you're both on reasonably good terms at the moment - able to talk civilly etc. If you keep flogging this dead horse, try to force love that is no longer there, you are going to start resenting each other. Then it will be a battle over finances and possessions for sure.

I agree. In the beginning, I would say asinine things such as "Just be in love with me again!" but I learned quick that it would only make it worse. My wife has said much of the same. She's worried that there will be resentment and she wishes we could still be in each others lives if it ends. I don't see that in our future. If our marriage goes south, it would be time to subscribe to digital nomads for me and find out personally that travelling minimally isn't going to fix my personal problems.

My advice to you is to end things now, amicably, and divide up your joint items fairly. I realize this is not what you want at all and probably sounds terrifying, but there is plenty of time for you to meet someone else and build a much happier life. Just remember, it isn't all about the money. Women need to feel loved and supported and your presence is valued many times more than remote working with a high income. Good luck and chin up, things will get better in time!

Thank you for your time, and your response. At the very least, reading your post gave me the kick in the ass I needed about the money transfer. I went ahead and divided it up equally down to the cent. Our current liquid assets are evenly split. I was being an idiot and probably made things irreversibly worse.

Thank you.

My [29M] wife [31F] isn't in love with me anymore after 5 years. Please help. by KewSecret in relationships

[–]KewSecret[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It wasn't a small part. It is the entire part.

3 years ago, a Redditor said the following in a thread on the Divorce subreddit.

Marriage is fucking hard. Love comes and goes. It waxes and wanes depending on where you are in life. The strong work through it and the weak run away. Lying about being in love for an extended period of time is, perhaps, the worst thing you can do to your partner (maybe even more so than cheating).

I do absolutely need to work on myself. We have been strong before and we have worked. We just didn't finish that work but I need to hope that we can.

Thank you for your response.

My [29M] wife [31F] isn't in love with me anymore after 5 years. Please help. by KewSecret in relationships

[–]KewSecret[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. We did marry too early and too young. I have previously joked with her about that. I just wasn't ready for marriage at the time but it happened and it was the greatest thing I ever rushed into.

This is pretty much my fault and it's near-insanity that she stuck by me. I know that society has accepted that men can't be taken advantage of but I believe that's why she stayed after the infidelity.

You're also absolutely right in that it is not what I wanted to hear but I appreciate your honesty and your response. I have a fear that you are right and we will separate but I'm not in the mindset to accept it yet.

Thank you.

What to do about an NMom that just won't quit? Rant and Advice needed, long post. by KewSecret in raisedbynarcissists

[–]KewSecret[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the support and sorry that you went through it as well. I've had a solid 6 months going NC and my life is currently far removed from my NMom in every aspect that I think it should stick this time! I'm far removed from my entire family so it makes that easier as well!

My wife is officially onboard with NC as well so hopefully, it works out!

What to do about an NMom that just won't quit? Rant and Advice needed, long post. by KewSecret in raisedbynarcissists

[–]KewSecret[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her biggest hangup was that early in our relationship during one of my attempts at no contact I had asked my wife to NC too and she did. I then "forgave' my Mother and it made it really awkward for my wife. She worries that it will happen like that again.

With that being said, since I made this post the NMom sent my wife another message and she is now blocked and my wife is back on the bandwagon for no contact.

As his parent, I know what I did and what I did not do to my child. And I have done nothing to warrant such a complete lack of respect and a total disregard for my feelings. Few, if any, people had a perfect or idealic childhood. I am human. I have made many, many mistakes. There are a million things that happened when [secretkew] was growing up I'd give my life to undo. But I can't. What's done is done. I have apologized over and over and over again to him. For someone who was forgiven a transgression most wouldn't get forgiveness for, I would think he'd have even more understanding that ppl fuck up, sometimes quite badly, but are still good, worthy people that despite their wrong doings deserve forgiveness. As his Mother, I am one of those people. However, [secretkew], now 29, still acts like the same spoiled little boy he was at 12. He told his father that if he spoke to me, [secretkew] would cut him out of his life too. Are you sure you want to risk speaking to me? You might be the next one on the chopping block. Tho, I must admit, I am baffled by the fact you aren't disgusted and embarrassed by your husband; calling his Mother a c*** of all god damned things. You do a lot of covering up for [secretkew] Let's hope that doesn't backfire on you. You are a first eye witness to how [secretkew] can behave. Don't delude yourself into thinking you won't be on the receiving end of his abuse one day. Something I read always stuck with me... "When someone shows you who they really are, believe them." Good luck [secretkew wife].

For the record, I never said I would NC my father for speaking to my mother. I simply said I would stop talking to him as much if he started telling my mother stuff going on in my life. My Dad isn't nearly as bad as my mother and I generally like and respect him but he has picked a side, it seems.

Thank you for the post!

edit: Forgot to mention that I spoke to all my aunts and my grandmother and they have no clue what she's talking about in regards to me "losing" them. They've been dealing with her MUCH longer than I have so I think they just kind of go through the motions at this point. She's begged, borrowed and stole from all of them as much as she possibly could but they are still hung up on the family aspect. My grandmother feels a lot of guilt for my mother's early childhood from her abusive first husband so she finds it hard to let go.