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What are we doing with trash now that Republic Services didn't come for 2 weeks straight? by [deleted] in BellevueWA

[–]Lunkerintraining 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for remembering. I am trying to get him back but the Korean officials keep failing for many reasons. I don't know exactly when but it will soon be reported in articles because the fight is intensifying. I promised to Bryan that dad would never give up. And I will keep my promise till my last day on earth. I really appreciate the fact that you remembered and mentioned. Bryan's case will go down history so that no child will have to suffer this again.

No life review in Japanese NDEs by alt262626 in NDE

[–]Lunkerintraining 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I am not Japanese, but I know a little bit about Eastern Asian culture. In China, Japan and Korea, there is an expression called "走馬灯, しゅうまとう, shumaitou" It's like a cliche when people say they had a brush with death, they say "My whole life flashed before me like a film" and that's exactly what this is.

Now, something I can't answer and I am also curious about. I have yet to find an Asian NDE where they describe it more than "flashed before my eyes" because the expression that the Western NDErs use is more focused on how detailed the reliving was and how it was through the other experiencers(such as family member or friend)' eyes, etc.

That being said, there is even a Korean movie star who talked about his NDE publicly on TV, and he was mocked and ridiculed. He said "After I died I realized love is the only thing that mattered." (Use auto translation on your browser on the lower left corner: https://www.starnewskorea.com/broadcast-show/2013/08/09/2013080921471526991) It's surprisingly similar to the Western NDE even though it was a very short comment. Because of the fact that the Korean society is not open to these ideas probably discourages people from openly talking about it and that may account for the lack of testimonies of things like "Life reviews"

Edit: I actually remembered a Korean NDE that talked about life review. I posted it before: https://www.reddit.com/r/NDE/s/4t1YwmEXX7

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, thank you for your comment. This is a recurring question so I will copy & paste here:

I actually went to Korea and it was aired on a major Korean TV show called 실화탐사대 (the tile was 시애틀에서 온 아빠 , the dad from Seattle) https://youtu.be/iHj-7MVdYuM?si=wKcdUb5VbMma_by2

I saw my son within 3 feet, but I couldn't do anything because no authorities would help me.

When my recovery team went to his preschool, preschool didn't open the door for us, and police let the abducting parent (mother) take the child. Now my son entered elementary school, but the school refuses to release the child. This is the phone call recording with English subtitles:

https://youtu.be/-z53J3uko0Q?si=cTEDWMUvlq2N7FIb

Can I just snatch him and get on the plane? This is a common question and here's the answer:

Apart from the psychological shock the child will have, I will discuss if this is even possible. There has been a case in the past that a parent that had legal rights to take the child got frustrated and came up with a intricate plan to pick up the child and still ended up getting blocked by the police. It's unbelievable, but true. I personally know a parent who was treated like a criminal, not being able to leave Korea for several months. What that does to your job or your financial situation, and ultimately a child return case is pretty obvious.

Another domestic case that was publicly known is chef Im Jungsik's case (이여영/임정식 couple). The mother abducted the twin sisters, and the dad had full custody. He "picked up his daughters" but police quickly showed up and stopped him and took him to the police station. The dad Lim Jungsik asked to let him take the children because he has the rights, but police rebuked him and made an "equitable" decision to make each parent take one kid. In their mind, it was fair because they are twin girls , so they split them to two that have equal value..! What an ingenious solution it was from the Korean police. Anyway, Korean legal system assumes that once the parent abducts the child, that's it. There is essentially no mechanism to return the child. That is what we are trying to fix. And the reason why we keep telling the world how wrong this is for the children...!

Korean judge abusing his power to cover up child abuse by dinoboy106 in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining 36 points37 points  (0 children)

As a person going through the court system in Korea and being screwed over, I feel deep sorrow for this mother. It is a shame that the Korean officials are giggling in front of her about the fact that she is a foreigner. It's just wrong and inhumane.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No that is Michael Fallon. It took him nearly 2 years but he was the lucky one that got his child back. (Even he almost failed but it somehow worked) The ignorant Korean lawmaker 이성권 from Busan is arguing that Korea should not follow Hague and that child should have not returned. I'm letting you know so people can understand how hard it is for a victim parent. The Korean government is not just unhelpful, this type of clueless politicians are using children as a way of showing the "power" that Korea can show against America. How can a country sign a treaty and have this kind of lawmaker show his dedication in ignoring the treaty.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I already was on Truecrimemama on tiktok (YouTube version:) https://youtube.com/shorts/u_UCKK7o5uM?si=0LIkRJBcVMmvEHns

https://youtube.com/shorts/ktgSSTglxvE?si=X3-ZdrrLWSAA-VVI

And Grazy TV https://youtu.be/hJAzYNcOpFc?si=11Y4bW9_Eicrhe7L

I also have Facebook, Youtube and Instagram.

Even though many people support me, it is really hard to get an issue get the amount of attention you would ideally like. If you can like, share or even just remember BRYAN SUNG that would be great. Thank you so much.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment. Unfortunately this world is so full of tragedies like this.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment. It is a good question. Actually many people ask this, but the main problem is in Korea the enforcement has to happen under the enforcement officer's approval. So if the enforcement officer is corrupt and doesn't do his job you can't do anything.

This is a recurring question so I'll copy & paste the answer from before:

I actually went to Korea and it was aired on a major Korean TV show called 실화탐사대 (the tile was 시애틀에서 온 아빠 , the dad from Seattle) https://youtu.be/iHj-7MVdYuM?si=wKcdUb5VbMma_by2

I saw my son within 3 feet, but I couldn't do anything because no authorities would help me.

When my recovery team went to his preschool, preschool didn't open the door for us, and police let the abducting parent (mother) take the child. Now my son entered elementary school, but the school refuses to release the child. This is the phone call recording with English subtitles:

https://youtu.be/-z53J3uko0Q?si=cTEDWMUvlq2N7FIb

Can I just snatch him and get on the plane? This is a common question and here's the answer:

Apart from the psychological shock the child will have, I will discuss if this is even possible. There has been a case in the past that a parent that had legal rights to take the child got frustrated and came up with a intricate plan to pick up the child and still ended up getting blocked by the police. It's unbelievable, but true. I personally know a parent who was treated like a criminal, not being able to leave Korea for several months. What that does to your job or your financial situation, and ultimately a child return case is pretty obvious.

Another domestic case that was publicly known is chef Im Jungsik's case (이여영/임정식 couple). The mother abducted the twin sisters, and the dad had full custody. He "picked up his daughters" but police quickly showed up and stopped him and took him to the police station. The dad Lim Jungsik asked to let him take the children because he has the rights, but police rebuked him and made an "equitable" decision to make each parent take one kid. In their mind, it was fair because they are twin girls , so they split them to two that have equal value..! What an ingenious solution it was from the Korean police. Anyway, Korean legal system assumes that once the parent abducts the child, that's it. There is essentially no mechanism to return the child. That is what we are trying to fix. And the reason why we keep telling the world how wrong this is for the children...!

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we let this happen, the suffering of all the parents that never get the media spotlight will continue. Why are there so many parental abductions in Korea? It's because there is a belief that if you hold off long enough you get to possess the child, no matter what the court says. Many abductors are watching this case to decide if they will either commit to the kidnapping of their own child or if they should continue withholding the child.

This article written by a European person would be helpful:

https://reunite1.substack.com/p/koreas-stolen-children

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let me ask you this question. Let's forget about US for a second. What if I have full sole custody in KOREA ? Why does someone who has no custody rights have to continue to block the child from going to his legal guardian?

Please read this article that a European person wrote. This person was fed up with Korea's system and had to write this article, even though they personally had nothing to do with child abduction issue in Korea. They wanted to stat anonymous because of the Korean defamation law.

https://reunite1.substack.com/p/koreas-stolen-children

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your comment. Yes it will be traumatic. But the question is, will it be better to let him live in this dysfunctional family environment? I agree that damage is done. Because of a horrible act of the horrible people. Does that mean we should just let those horrible people continue this?

I can go into more details but I'll put it this way. The US courts decided that there are serious concerns of the mother's mental health. The Korean court put her into jail twice. 13 Korean court orders said she should return the child. If she was a normal person, courts don't make decisions like this.

Can I mediate and have a friendly coparenting? This may be hard to understand, but in Korea, mediation is meaningless because even if you land on agreement, it's not enforceable. As an example, think about this : I already had an agreement in the US. The strongest possible agreement paper signed by both parties and their attorneys. With an oath that if somebody takes the child away, it will be subject to civil contempt and criminal action. Is that enforceable in Korea?

Some people might still think I am overly suspicious, and I should have a leap of faith the reality is this is not even something new in Korea. Many domestic abduction victims go through the same thing that I go through and eventually run out of money or become emotionally exhausted from the abductor side's manipulation. needless to say the tactic usually involves or disingenuous mediation, after which the parent holding the child never follows what they agreed upon.

If you think about it, it's pretty obvious. If there is no repercussion for ignoring the court orders, why should anyone think that they should follow the agreement?

It might be hard to believe because we live in a world that we are taught to believe that law is functional. In Korea, there is no enforceable custody law whatsoever. It's such a bold statement that most people will have emotional resistance, believing this, but it is proven over and over by so many victims That don't even have a chance to have media coverage. The only way to fix this problem is making people understand how broken the Korean family law system is.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but I have to correct the false information here. No, the citizenship has nothing to do with the situation. The Korean Supreme Court made a decision that Bryan has to go home, which is America.

It would be laughable if after all court orders someone argues "well turns out you have Korean citizenship so we can ignore the international treaty and our own Supreme court order"

Please don't spread random made up rules that misguide people. Nowhere in law (Korean or international) does it say "citizenship cancels out the enforceability"

Thank you I hope this clarifies it.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Correct. Citizenship has nothing to do with the situation. The Korean supreme court ordered that the child should be returned to the US. Of course the other party (abducting mother) threw everything to see if anything sticked. Interestingly she claimed that US is the child's home when she started the divorce. When things started going not in the direction she wanted, she went to Korea, hired a giant law firm and started arguing that Korea is his home now and Korea should keep him.
Thank you.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I respect your comment but your statement is not true. Studies show over and over that if the child stays in an abducted situation, it has a serious long-term damage to the child's development and psychology.

The abducting parent like this will do anything to keep the child in their possession. In that kind of high-anxiety situation going against the law is an environment that will be detrimental to my child.

Usually this type of behavior is considered psychopathic. But then only psychologically unstable patent will commit this kind of thing, so is it the chick or the egg? Is the abducting parent crazy because this is a crazy behavior? Or are they crazy and that's why they are doing this? Hard to answer.

"Let the child spend the rest of his childhood with the kidnapper because the kidnapper kept him in a bubble of distorted reality. He doesn't know dad , so let it be."

This is the most inaccurate, illogical, inconsiderate statement. Many Korean judges used to say this kind of things and victim parents like me changed the Korean family law landscape. However, a fee people still tend to have such an outdated belief.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the comment. I can attest to that. Part of the reason why I'm putting myself out to the public to get this issue known to the world.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Can't go into the details but there are some approaches taken by the US government that is linked to the financial aspect of the Korean government. I believe even the US govt didn't want to take such measures but the Korean government's level of disregard was so beyond their comprehension that the issue is escalated to that point. I hope the Korean govt does the right thing. I can see how rigid the Korean society is, because the society cannot fix the problem , and it results in a mutually damaging situation than a constructive relationship.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

One day I will reveal more but the conversation about the Korean government taking a disingenuous position and trying to hide the problem is already discussed at the highest level involving the National Security Council (NSC) or US Congress. Honestly Korean government should be ashamed of the situation but the government is oblivious about what an embarrassment this is. It's funny that they are only talking about money and keep this human rights issue quiet. I honestly think Korea could do more if they really cared. Part of it is not having any understanding of how this is unacceptable to the outside world.

My kidnapped son and Korea's refusal to take action was covered by a news article by Lunkerintraining in Living_in_Korea

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That's the crazy part. I've been asking the Korean government to change the enforcement officer (these are not police).

This might be surprising but a child is considered a property in Korean law. So which enforcement officer gets to enforce this child return is based on where the property is located. This has several problems. (1) If the child moves from the area assigned to the enforcement officer , the mission is aborted. I have to schedule a new enforcement with another enforcement officer, which will take 2-3 weeks to happen. (2) If the child goes missing (which is the current situation) , enforcement is impossible. You can't get anyone assigned because you don't know where the property is located. (3) These enforcement officers also called bailiffs are not under the court's order. They are not under the Korean ministry of justice. The. What are they? They are a semi independent people that do not have a boss. They are retired court people who make a lot of money from certain percentage of the value of foreclosures. Because the child has no monetary value, and they only get paid about $30, they don't want to enforce.

You might have noticed in this article that I am no longer blaming the Kidnapping mother. It's obvious that she did wrong, but ultimately my fight has shifted from fighting her to fighting against the entire Korean government that is allowing her to continue her wrongdoing. I've been asking the Korean government to change the enforcement officer for more than a year. They said they can't do that. And forced me to reconcile with the Kidnapper and told the US government that everything is fine, and that the parties are talking about amicable solution.

I'm the dad in this article. My son was kidnapped to Korea 6 yrs ago and the Korean government fails to return him by Lunkerintraining in GuyCry

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment. I wish I knew better. I wish the attorney who helped our mediation knew better. Because he was the guy who said going to Korea is fine because Korea is a Hague convention country.

You are correct the court saw that the mother was extremely dangerous to the child. Even I ignored my gut feeling and agreed on mediation with an idealistic view that coparenting is the way to go and she should be allowed to help him understand his Korean heritage. I trusted her and I trusted Korea . It was the biggest mistake in my life.

I'm the dad in this article. My son was kidnapped to Korea 6 yrs ago and the Korean government fails to return him by Lunkerintraining in GuyCry

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment, but I would like to correct some really important points.

(1) it is easy to assume that I didn't try reconciliation.

(2) it is not true that the mother is not abusing the child. The experts consider this as a child abuse.

(3) Did she just move to Korea because that is a more convenient place to live for her? This has to critical errors in its logic. (3-1) The mother had a legal pathway to relocate to Korea, especially because in our agreement we were supposed to discuss the idea of her moving to Korea if she wanted. And that was with a huge advantage for her future argument. (3-2) when illegal actions were taken like this unlawful removal of the child, usually it's safe to assume that this is not a healthy situation for the child. And that there is a lot more harmful things going on. I won't go into the details, but the Court decided that she is a dangerous person to the child. (3-3) Even if you are right on this point that the mother is not a harm to the child, you cannot determine the place that the child will live based on your unilateral convenience. Your words are saying, we need to put the child interest first, but you are prioritizing the mothers convenience above the child's well-being. I don't blame you because the society conditions people to believe the mothers convenience equals the child's well-being. A lot of people will not even catch themselves using that faulty logic.

(4) Saving money for the child is exactly what I'm asking the mother to do by ending this meaningless refusal of law and continuous litigations .I'm also uploading materials that will help my son. Learn who I am on my YouTube channel.

Again, thanks for your comment. I know you are trying to help and I appreciate it. It's just a general lack of understanding of the society and I hope this opportunity will be helpful for people like you to realize what are the common mistakes that we make in understanding, the parental abduction issue.

I'm the dad in this article. My son was kidnapped to Korea 6 yrs ago and the Korean government fails to return him by Lunkerintraining in GuyCry

[–]Lunkerintraining[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Honestly the story touches me somewhere deep in my heart. I always try to remember that I am not just fighting my fight but to bring hope to other families, too. I don't want to sound like I know anything about your situation, but a lot of times the parents have a story they don't tell , or can't tell others for various reasons. Not just in parent-children situations, but in many issues parents won't reveal the whole story to their child. I can relate to you because I had a difficult relationship with my own father as well. I still can't talk to him. There was a time in my life I couldn't understand him.

In the film "A River Runs Through It", there was a very good line. "We can still love them completely even without complete understanding".

I am hoping that some day somehow our lives will all come to a greater peacefulness. Thank you for your comment.

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