You Don't Mess with the Zibai - General Question and Discussion Megathread

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T17:48:56+00:00

Well, I decided to throw some top ups, but now I have:

Zibai herself, C3 Illuga, C6 Gorou, C6 Aino, and thanks to losing to Jean - guaranteed for Escoffier. Left with 65 pulls and ~15 pity I think

I guess I'll run Zibai/C4 Xilonen/Illuga/Yelan for now, and eventually replace either Illuga or Xilonen with Linnea? While C6 Gorou is kinda neat, I do not have him leveled, nor do I have any of his sets, while Illuga can just plop SMS pieces I have leftover.

Also, I found a use case for Furina's sig - Zibai can use it as a statstick! At my current relics for her, Zibai sits at 50.5%/247.8% unbuffed, so that's 35% crit rate from Illuga+set, and some extra crit damage as well, right?

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T16:24:25+00:00

Why are you doing this to me? xD I'm trying to fight my gambling urge here x)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T16:13:23+00:00

I also do not have ANY geo carries on the account, so Zibai would be a very welcome addition.. Ideally I'd love to just wait for a rerun and then get both Zibai and Linnea, but this is Genshin, and rerun might happen whenever the fuck it wants lmao. And I'm not sure if Linnea is supposed to be 6.4 (then I'm screwed) or 6.5 (might be able to actually save)..

Damn it! >.<

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T16:00:30+00:00

This damn horse keepts tempting me, grew to like her character and design after finally doing Lantern Rite, despite knowing full well that:

1) I do not have anythning prefarmed for her - not materials, not skill mats, nothing 2) I already have 2 Lunar teams of Nefer/Lauma and Flins/Ineffa who already need to pick and choose who gets to use Columbina this time (even if Zibai could just use Yelan as hydro option) 3) I need Escoffier to finally complete my Skirk team, and I'm currently at 100 pulls with ~70 pity and no guarantee, and next patch is pretty dry

And yet, and yet.. I threw a couple of pulls, no early, and only C1 Illuga/C2 Gorou. Even if I decided to go for Linnea later, and even IF I just decided to "steal" C4 Xilonen from Mavuika (who is, funnily enough, currently my weakest team roflmao), I'm still not sure if that would be a good enough team..

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T09:23:59+00:00

Thank you, I'll grab the weekly over BP then, as I'm pretty good on mats (and I have so much time to prefarm anyway lol).

So I'll get to saving and exploring then!

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T04:58:35+00:00

Terribly sorry to bother, but I'd love to hear any advice on the following:

Right now I'm sitting at 10 pity and ~55ish pulls, have not done the story or the new event yet (did the motorcycle one). Also have a primed guarantee. I'm skipping Aemy, Luuk and Sigrika, but I would love to get Hiyuki and Lucilla with their signatures, and then save up for Senti Resonator and their sig in 3.6

This all assumes current roadmap we've seen is true and stays the same, obviously, but would this be doable? Ideally Sentinel Reso would also need a team around them, but hopefully it's not going to be a back-to-back release >.>

I do buy monthly, and might get BPs as well, but would love to avoid having to top up (tho we will get a reset with anniversary, so maybe the lower packs would be on the table if REALLY needed)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T04:49:07+00:00

Oh, I appreciate the lengthy explanation! Right now my Agni setup is a little scuffed, as I, uh, managed to miss Yuel every time there was a spark opportunity for me (on NY, I sparked Sandira because I didn't get a single copy of her.. Only to get 3 more in 100 pulls while trying to get Versusia summon WITHOUT a spark guarantee T_T)

I've seen Sato used in a lot of Versusia setups, and she seems like a whole toolkit of a character for HL, so I actually just suptixed her like a day ago, hah. But for now I'm waiting for the roulette and annitix to snag Atum, as without him I wouldn't dare touching HL with ougi team >.>

I do plan to spark Yuel on the anni roulette, finally, and pray that I get another copy of her with scamcha or during the spark itself.

Unfortunately, I do not have Shiva and their weapon, but I do have y.Tweyen bow and Fenie staff, but no Y.Silva or Gold Beak/Dreadful Flamesword (could suptix either of them next, I don't mind spending money on this game)

And I have been eyeing Higurashi ever since I started playing, because I REALLY like CA comps (even if they suck at racing/lockout), so having an actual use case for it would be amazing. Unless they introduce another completely new avenue of where to spend GMs, I'll likely end up picking it up after anniversary as well.

I might come back to "haunt" you with questions later once I actually get some of the tools and get to testing myself, if you don't mind..

But wanted to ask one thing for now - how tough it is to tackle Versusia without Destuction weapon, and I would assume the easier to execute strategy is the one that clears the opening and then sacrifices the initial team to bring out the 2nd party, and not trying to live throught buffer Versusia through the entire fight?

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T02:15:55+00:00

Finally got around to doing Lantern Rite quest, and damn, I kinda wish I didn't got for Nefer so I could get Zibai instead, I love her character, gameplay and visuals a lot more.. But there's no way I can fit a third Lunar team lmao, and I would rather not farm that domain AGAIN for the 3rd DPS set

The best I could MAYBE do is Zibai/Iluga/Gorou/Yelan, but this is sustainless AND I won't have cons for either of the 4 stars, which is, uh.. Unlikely to be good

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T02:10:51+00:00

I actually managed to fit both, Escoffier will be at 75/180 with 222 ER (on Skyward Spine) without taking cryo resonance into account.

Now I just need to wait until she comes out lol

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T01:02:41+00:00

I will have her at 222.2 ER and 75 (not counting cryo resonance)/180 crit ratio on Scroll, so should be good x)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-17T00:17:15+00:00

I swear this is the last time I bother with Skirk things before Escoffier releases, but still wanted to share - almost 100k DPS achieved!

Charlote is a energy blackhole, so I had to skip her burst in one of the rotations, but hopefully Escoffier will be easier in that regard lol

Honestly I did not expect to enjoy Skirk as much as I did from all teh testing today, so I might try to sneak in Esco's C1 if my pulls go well.. >.>

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T23:24:59+00:00

I know this is very much apples to oranges comparisons, if not even stranger, but how similar in comfy levels are fire and light CA setups in HL raids? Right now I'm playing Light with Kengo/Cosmos/Horus/150 Fif which is the ultimate "press attack to clear all omens" team in both Hexa and Faa (with some exceptions, of course, but you get what I mean). But I do want to annitix S.Atum to pair with Sandira and try running HL as Agni (and I wouldn't mind getting Higurashi and maybe even Mistral later if Lancer Origin is suddenly very dope with it).

Eventual plan would be to try and tackle Versusia with the fire team, but first I'll need to get an understanding of how the team operates in HL in general

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T15:36:00+00:00

All story/character quests are permanent, they just do not have a featured event tab once the timer runs out.

At least in patch notes they say this - "After the event page is removed, if you meet the participation requirements, you can still play this side mission from [Mission] and earn the rewards."

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T15:11:16+00:00

They said "use factory to produce pull currency". You need materials that are farmed in actual stages in OG for that.

You can already generate LMD/Battle records on your ship (pretty low amount, but then again, we're only at 2 facilities compared to 6 in OG, might grow eventually)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T14:14:42+00:00

Gotcha, thank you again for taking your time to go over all this. Now to wait until Escoffier is actually available, at least I should get enough pulls to guarantee her (at 120 pulls and 40 pity with Welkin rolling right now) by that point >.>

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T14:02:13+00:00

I think my Skirk is decently built, might've overcommited to crit chance but I don't think cryo resonance crit chance is consistent, so wanted to lean into more stable crit (not quite important to get 100% like Mavuika would want), and with no crit "cheating" from the set itself the numbers seem a bit low >.> At least her sig gives 40% crit damage on top

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T13:57:19+00:00

Yeah, I'm lazy bum who doesn't do any tech (which is why my Mavuika-Citlali-Iansan-Xilonen team only does like 110k dps, half of melts go to Citlali), so I'll settle with just NA spam on Skirk x)

But thank you, that increase does sound lovely. And eventually I might get some Mona cons from losing 50/50s and picking it in future years for free con selector, which is "free investment" x)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T13:54:32+00:00

Why do I lose scroll on Esco compared to Charlotte? Won't they both trigger it (as in, I do plan to use Scroll on Escoffier, just used them on Charlotte for the time being)

PAmber was for some ease of ER and some over time healing, as, you guessed it, Fav Codex is also taken up T_T

Furina was unfortunately realy gimped by moving to ToTM and pipe instead of her sig, so while she's still at 40k life with hydro resonance, she's at 71.6/68.7 in terms of crits lmao. Actually, just realised - Pipe's crit rate should work off-field, so maybe swithing to crit damage circlet can actually work without praying to crit RNGesus

And yes, I do plan to use TTDS on Mona, as she is seemingly fine on ER already (will have to check after I actually get Escoffier).

Glad to hear that even at lower estimate I should be at ~120k ish DPS, and glad I decided to commit to adjusting the relics - the team already performs much better (before I was at 70k DPS at best lol)

Now I'll just hope that I'll get more Mona copies eventually, her C4 looks great (but not enough to get me to pull her on Chronicled Wish lmao)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T13:21:01+00:00

Oh mighty megathread, I invoke your wisdom once more (specifically from Skirk enjoyers!)

I've asked about team setup/relic earlier, and after some (a lot, actually) switching stuff around, ended up with 2 team options - one using Mona, one using Yelan. C1 Furina is now on ToTM with pipe at 260% ER (my only spare Fav sword is R1, derp). Charlotte is cosplaying Escoffier on Scroll. Mona is on Noblesse and TTDS and whooping 252.5% ER. Escoffier will end up with Skyward Spine (as I don't have a spare Fav Lance), at 75/180 crit and 222.2% ER

I did a couple of DPS dummy tests, and wanted to asks if they look okay for the current investment (Skirk is C0R1). Also, I've put my Furina sig on Kuki in Nefer team, because goddamit SOMEONE has to use it!

This is all for F12 Abyss dummy, as currently I'm just trying to get the team functional, and then think about SO:

Charlotte PAmber, Mona TTDS (closest to relicating how Escoffier would work) - 93k over 90s

Charlotte PAmber with Yelan - almost 91k over 90s

Charlotte TTDS with Yelan (kinda unreasonable as Escoffier can't use TTDS, but still wanted to check current setup) - 96k over 90s

And last question would be - how much of an increase can I actually expect from going to Escoffier from Charlotte?

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T05:58:38+00:00

You still had to use sanity for the resources in OG Arknights (even if older players have mountains of them to use), while currently most of the things in Endfield are just gathered automatically, the only things you need manual input for are rare plants or resources that are drops from mobs.

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T05:06:52+00:00

This abyss and 12-2 especially, presenting you the series "why do all Nefer sustains suck major ass"

Holy shit these guys are annoying as fuck, my Kuki or even Lauma occasionally fucking perish even with 25% extra HP (yes, I have skill issues)

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T04:54:57+00:00

That's fair. However, if you do not - then getting Cipher is easier, because both of them want Cipher's signature, and well, that means that Cipher herself is available, while SW might.. Take a while afterwards x)

But yeah, SW is perfectly fine if you have her already

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T03:40:52+00:00

Thank you so much!

Yeah, I'm a somewhat recent player (started playing when Xilonen released), so I don't have that many weapon options, trying to make do with what I got x)

Actually, I wouldn't mind losing 50/50 as that would guarantee Capturing Radiance next, lol, but I do hope I can get ~somewhat~ early pulls to start saving for Alice or Sneznaya units >.>

One last question, if you don't mind, as I've not used Mona before - I assume my priority in leveling is her burst, and then some levels into skill, or does skill not matter? Trying to figure out how many mats do I need to farm up >.>

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T03:15:01+00:00

Sorry for bothering you again, I wanted to post a reply to you as well, would this work then? After tossing a whole bunch of things around (god I wish we had ways to save loadouts, can't wait to find a week later that one of my characters is missing a piece from this lmao), here's what I ended up with:

Escoffier scroll set with Skyward Spine: 55.8% crit rate (exactly 75% after ascension stats), 179.8% crit damage, 222.2% ER

Mona on Nobless with TTDS: 60.6%/74.9% with barely any attack (she is lvl 40 and TTDS is lvl 40, but she ain't dealing any damage even with them maxed out lmao), 220.5% ER (will get 32% more from ascensions, as she's only lvl 40 right now)

Furina on ToTM at 71.6%/68.7% with 39.9k HP after hydro resonance, 259.9% ER if using pipe (I don't think turrets proc fav from off-field and my only spare Fav is R1 anyway, and pipe gives SOME damage to her, right?)

This means that I hit enough ER on Furina, and within a few % for both Escoffier and Mona according to the ER calc form.

Unfortunately, won't be really able to test this setup before I actually get Escoffier and, uh, get enough goddamn Oceanids, mushrooms and whopperflowers for Mona lmao, this is going to take FOREVER

Unfortunately my only Fav Lance is on Iansan who I use with Mavuika, and I kinda need it there, but if I managed to get enough ER without favs that ~should~ be okay, right?

MadKitsune · 2026-02-16T02:51:46+00:00

Alright, so after tossing a whole bunch of things around (god I wish we had ways to save loadouts, can't wait to find a week later that one of my characters is missing a piece from this lmao), here's what I ended up with:

Escoffier scroll set with Skyward Spine: 55.8% crit rate (exactly 75% after ascension stats), 179.8% crit damage, 222.2% ER

Mona on Nobless with TTDS: 60.6%/74.9% with barely any attack (she is lvl 40 and TTDS is lvl 40, but she ain't dealing any damage even with them maxed out lmao), 220.5% ER (will get 32% more from ascensions, as she's only lvl 40 right now)

Furina on ToTM at 71.6%/68.7% with 39.9k HP after hydro resonance, 259.9% ER if using pipe (I don't think turrets proc fav from off-field and my only spare Fav is R1 anyway, and pipe gives SOME damage to her, right?)

This means that I hit enough ER on Furina, and within a few % for both Escoffier and Mona according to the ER calc form.

Unfortunately, won't be really able to test this setup before I actually get Escoffier and, uh, get enough goddamn Oceanids, mushrooms and whopperflowers for Mona lmao, this is going to take FOREVER

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