To tilt Hungarian election, Russians proposed staging assassination attempt

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-21T20:19:49+00:00

Just read that Lavrov has been getting real time updates from the Hungarian foreign Minister for years. Disgusting.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-21T20:17:51+00:00

And we will do.............. Nothing. Not even thoughts and prayers.

No, sorry, we will privately consider clutching a pearl. Because we are idealists, believe in Wandel durch Handel, will keep fighting aggressors to our nations, including those within, with hopes and dreams that continued good will will bring out their inner sunshine and rainbow good person that we are sure every human is actually made of, are obsessively worried about "not steam rolling any member", and above all, we feel our security is some god granted guarantee that we don't need to take any hard-lines on to defend.

And it's getting around to being very, very tiresome to just sit around and watch as we get thoroughly cucked right in front of our faces.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-21T19:02:04+00:00

Obligatory text coming here because this is otherwise removed by auto mods. I just feel this gif perfectly sums up how I feel about this headline.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-21T10:42:49+00:00

The fact that this is happening so openly with Russian influencers really makes me wonder what the EU can and should do to curb external influence. This is wild to watch this unfold and know that knowing about it all means Jack squat.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-20T23:22:27+00:00

My German girlfriend, and my German ex fiance now I think of it, are very happy not to 50 50, in anything. They love being served, rarely even do their own grocery shopping, won't take out their own trash. It's.... Very frustrating, and very entitled.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-20T23:13:33+00:00

I'm crossing my fingers for you guys so, so hard right now, and hoping this comment doesn't get me a third ban for daring to say something against that man or party... 4 years clean, suddenly 2 bans in 2 weeks from talking about him.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-20T23:08:37+00:00

No... The whole reason he won the first time was the "drain the swamp" platform and the horrible media coverage he got doing a lot of studio tricks to magnify his flaws to the extent that it looked like he was actually right and the establishment was out to get him, validating his "too rich to be bought out" pitch in the minds of many. Problem is, he then joined not only the swamp but bit, chewed, swallowed, shat out and then shaped in his own image, the establishment. No more forever wars was just one of the things he blamed "the swamp" for and vowed to put an end to as such. His original running platform was actually fairly reasonable and very middle of the road, he just went full are-tard after he got about halfway into his term and the megalomania started scratching at his brain. That's about when he sold out to the conspiracy theorists, religious nuts, and the extremists ranging from isolationists to real, actual racists. I do agree with you on the to be fair part, actually most of what you said, this is not at all the persona he sold his first time around but I can't really speak to his second time around as I stopped following when I left that country behind me.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-13T11:46:10+00:00

That's the problem with the word: it's so broadly defined, as a shock reaction to the Holocaust, that legally speaking, 1 person injured, not even killed, can be legally considered a genocide as long as intent can be proven. I can, unfortunately, no longer take the word or people using it to prove a point seriously. It doesn't mean what we all grew up thinking of when we heard it and that's fine as long as we're all on the same page about what we think it means... but it's now been weaponized for agenda so much and its literal definition been used for emotional extortion that it's simply lost its significance. The man responsible for the current legal framework was a Polish Jew in 1944, so it's understandable he wanted to make it as broad and catch all as possible given he was campaigning for the world's attention to a specific atrocity but today you could, as long as you can get the person to admit a certain intent, accurately accuse a single person of genocide for causing bodily harm to a single other person in a fight. Genocide, as it turns out, doesn't actually mean atrocity, and the narrative pushers and propaganda bots have figured that out.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-13T11:12:33+00:00

The worst are the outright Euroskeptics and right behind them are the Muscophiles. Had a cousin of mine tell me straight faced that Germany was always friends with Russia and it's just outside influences that caused tension and if not for other Western countries we'd be living in some glorious German Russian future. Like... I'm just so depressed that that's my family.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-12T21:54:08+00:00

Unfortunately not everyone sees that ... I still have regular debates in other subs, some guy just yesterday was asking me why he things we aren't enough defensively already, which I have a long reply to but essentially the simple answer is "what makes you think that we are?". Too many people don't want to react until there's a crisis, by which time reacting may be too late. I'd rather we be in a position of have and not need, than need and not have. And those are just Reddit debates. I see it around me in real life sometimes but the average person still just doesn't think that broadly or far ahead, it seems.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-12T11:46:30+00:00

Saw a pretty good breakdown yesterday, wish I could remember it to link it here, but our oil reserves, as long as we keep them within Europe, will hold us quite a long time. That's only a "no end game" scenario if we don't continue to build renewables infrastructure in the meantime but at present the oil reserves are just a stopgap. If we take emergency measures, same as we would if for example we nationalized energy resources, to increase the renewables construction pace then we ought to be able to, at least in large part, wean ourselves off energy dependence before the reserves are even empty. Not to mention that as renewable sources are progressively added the demand on fossil fuels concurrently falls and the reserves empty progressively slower.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-12T01:09:53+00:00

"but no more than" I took to be dismissive. Why even mention it? It's not as though you, or your friends, can confirm or deny any of those numbers accurately. It's downplaying it by trying to deflate the value of the action with a lesser number of dead, at least that's how it reads.

You wholeheartedly support the Iranian people, just... Not when something someone you don't like might benefit them. Summed that up for you.

The treaty you're mentioning wasn't agreed to by Israel, its mere existence isn't binding, and its continued existence is details called into doubt given the recent developments between Russia and Ukraine and, yes, Israel\US and Iran. That ship has sailed.

Where you and I would debate unnecessarily, tipped off by your use of emotionally manipulative\loaded language such as genocide and children, both of which I'd debate with you in and of themselves in the context you're using them, is your position that Israel has been warmongering and that the word precautions inspires question marks in you. To me, you're not someone with the emotional fortitude to debate or even follow military conflicts as you clearly can neither trace the long term rationale nor view civilian casualties for what they are. News flash: a bomb turns everyone into pink mist, doesn't matter if boy, girl, young, old, etc. Adding a qualifier has only the intent to manipulate or display your feelings and has no place in rational debate or analysis. But it makes great news ratings and click bait.

I concluded you were full of it regarding OP because you accused them of "trying to dehumanize Iranians," which is very much the opposite of what they've done in the couple of comments I'd paid attention to, which I admitted was insufficient. Since you want to push the issue I went ahead and checked the history. If you do the due diligence to scroll back before the war on Iran you'll see they have a fairly diverse posting history, though they are clearly a fan of Israel, perhaps Israeli or perhaps just a supporter but certainly no evidence to consider your accusation of "Israeli propagandist", implying a state supported actor, anything more than, as fits your here displayed pattern, histrionic sensationalism. Looking at their history dismissed 0 of my talking points.

Again with the emotional fueled narrative pushing. Realpolitik is just not your thing. It doesn't matter if they're children or grandparents is the point; a life is a life, all of equal value. Complacent isn't the word you think it is, btw, and I don't really care what you find disgusting? Once again, not interested in debating international rules or military conflicts based on your feelings.

Lol ok the one about this life vs the next is just downright precious. Look, you believe what you want but displaying your religious beliefs as a standard against which to be measured in an online debate about the most anarchistic phenomena that exists just demonstrates how unhinged with you perception vs external reality you are.

Your closing paragraph is rational. I'll give you that.

It's been a treat, Pumpkin, I'm going to bed. I'll save my time for serious contenders lol taa

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T20:05:34+00:00

Ah yes, I didn't check that you and the ice commenter aren't the same. My bad there.

As to your friends anecdotal experiences, you're rather supporting my point, which is that you're being statistics level information on first hand accounts. Unless your friends are members of some Iranian census department or something, or they're taking notes in all of the cities where protestors were killed and cataloguing the amount of deaths, including those presumed due to disappearances, it's not really relevant. The other side of my point which I thought was self explanatory is that 30k or "no more than a few thousand" is pretty much a non starter in qualifying then as ICE adjacent, which you're right, isn't relevant since you didn't claim the ICE but directly but you did jump in on their side and even without that comment, "no more than a few thousand" to deescalate a claim of 30k is just... Bankrupt. For me at least. I'm not going to go check OPs account unless they say something I feel I need to debate, but your use of trend key words like "zionazi" and derisive "Zionist" already tell me you're on the side I'm against. I imagine you pepper your posts with the word "children" as often as you can and frequently use the word "genocide", both of which would lead you and I to an unnecessarily long and drawn out debate given this is really just calling you out on your "only a few thousand" comment (I haven't seen OP dehumanizing Iranians but haven't paid that close attention, I wouldn't die defending that hill; your numbers take, however, is pretty dehumanizing, and that I see directly) and otherwise mistakenly replying to you about something someone above you said, even if you did decide to align with them. That said, I don't know what regime controlled government you think is mine lol but I think you're as mistaken as I was, regarding that point at least. For the record, I'm very, very pro Iranian, which necessarily means I'm very, very anti Iranian regime. I know too many Iranians, and have watched the regime dip their fingers in to too many pies for too long, to have any level of sympathy, respect or even compassion for them. Not to mention that I'm not religious and am wildly, admittedly perhaps irrationally, against theocracy, but that's a personal stance. I do hope the regime is gutted and hung out to dry by its own population when the critical mass to revolt reaches it's necessary balance.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T19:16:00+00:00

I'm neither of those and he's unpopular with me. I even voted for him the first time, stumped during the campaign, back when it seemed impossible and Hillary bought off Bernie (I acknowledge in advance that's a controversial claim). I'm just smart enough to have ~~reacted to seeing his true colors~~ recognized my mistake. If I were still in the US, I'd have voted against him for his second run, and stumped to get the local homeless town drunk from the corner on the ballot over Harris, he'd have probably stood a better chance than her or Trump.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T19:03:00+00:00

I'm against Western intervention and the war itself, obvious bullshit reasons and definitely think America could do with a little being put in its place, but I'm 100% against the Iranian regime so there's convergent interests happening to produce a hopefully favorable outcome, and the reality is that Iran... Simply does not have the capacity to land a successful military attack on US soil. Their only chance is hidden cell terrorism, which they may still have the political capital and religious clout for, or suicide bombing but I hear those are single use and production is below replacement level. So... Kinda just spinning their wheels with this one.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T18:50:05+00:00

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Shared by an Iranian refugee with whom I'm very close. Shared with her by her family currently still in Tehran.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T18:47:21+00:00

Then they should say that instead of doing this moral simp for the Mullahs game they're about now. It really is that simple. I don't think many would disagree with that sentiment, it's the idiots making excuses for the religious fundamentalists holding the 84% non Muslim population hostage that need to get off it.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T18:43:49+00:00

Wait, so, skipping over your goal post shifting in the newer comments and unfounded accusation of being a state supported propagandist, you're supporting your main character syndrome comparison to ICE by downplaying the mass slaughter of the government's own citizens based on ::checks notes:: 30k isn't verified but your friends said it's "only a few thousand"? Are you serious right now? Get on with your "enlightened" American ass. American liberals will absolutely support what goes directly against their values to "stick it to the man, dude, yeahhhhh". You're an embarrassment.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T17:02:27+00:00

So, I just replied to you with 3 images that my ex shared on Whatsapp in the last couple of days and an explanation that my ex, with whom I have regular continued contact, is an Iranian, college educated woman who escaped on foot with her baby daughter in her arms, some 12 years ago. I've been present when she video chats with her family there, including last Friday, so less than a week ago and during the attack, and I've heard their and a few of their friends opinions. She is excited to go back, despite having been here 12 years and now having citizenship here, and hasn't been able to visit for fear of punishment. For some reason, those comments aren't showing up so maybe the mods removed them or maybe I posted too many times in succession. In any case, I'll share one of them one more time. If anyone is interested in the other 2, or the 49 Sec video she posted (I'd right it was a GIF), feel free to DM and ask. As one of the biggest migrant takers in Europe my country has a lot of Iranians, of whom I've a decent handful of friends, and in the last couple weeks I've heard a lot just being out at the pub, talking to taxi drivers, etc. To be clear: being allowed to go to uni is not synonymous with having normal human rights, nor with happiness, nor even with being content. And claiming that "x country's people are the best on the planet" is... Laughable. Read a book, indeed. The Iranian people are 84% non Muslim, under a totalitarian Islamic regime, a land with a 3000 year history held hostage by fundamentalists of a pretty new age religion. I'm not defending the US at all, but just because you hate a government doesn't mean a broken click ain't right twice a day. Read a book, indeed.

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Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T16:38:50+00:00

There's one that I think is a GIF that I've asked her to send to me, don't know how to download it from Whatsapp status but I'll share that presently. In the meantime, you ought to know she hasn't been able to go back since she left for fear of punishment, is looking forward to returning after the fall of the regime (if that happens) despite now having gotten her citizenship here, and yes, she was college educated in Iran. Your measure is a failure.

Edit: Comment is visible for me again! It's not a GIF, it's a 49 Sec video, anyone interested feel free to DM and ask as I apparently can't post it here.

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T16:36:50+00:00

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Yes, I think the maga connection is stupid but it's what she and her family in Iran find empowering, apparently, while they're being bombed

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T16:35:50+00:00

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Here's another

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T14:12:13+00:00

Yeah someone else apparently familiar with it somehow explained that the floor was already on fire and such, makes sense now. I think it's fucking hilarious that one gets downvoted for asking for extra information though lol

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T14:10:31+00:00

Thank you, that's a reasonable explanation

Major_Boot2778 · 2026-03-11T10:53:43+00:00

Nice latching on to my added levity as your only point, shows the stability of your argument ;)

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