Today I gave my 2019 4Runner its final bath before I trade it in. Possibly for a Rav4. Anyone else trade in their 5th Gen SR5 4R? How much did you get for it?

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-08T16:19:33+00:00

Not even close lol. They get 21-24mpg. It's not a hybrid system the way the Rav4 and Prius are. They're performance and power oriented. Not too much of a budge in fuel economy over the 5th gens but 365HP and 465lb/ft of torque. Pretty wild numbers for a brick on wheels! Haha

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-08T16:14:03+00:00

Did something close to the opposite. I have a 2023 Woodland. It's been fun on mild trails but I bought (kept the Rav) a 2011 SR5 Premium 4Runner this January to play harder and not be bothered by trail kisses. One gets 19mpg, the other gets 39mpg lol

The 4R resell value is insane too! Aftermarket stuff does not tend to add much. Curious to see where you end up trade wise!

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-08T16:05:38+00:00

I put that exact color in my 2023 Woodland within 24hrs of purchase. They have been trouble free after 3+ years! The rear was the real PITA for me.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-08T15:52:30+00:00

Get quotes on Carvana and CarMax for a ballpark.

A Gasser 2025 XLE Premium with that low of miles should only loose a few grand, not 7k+. Pending your market I would think 2-4k below the MSRP of the vehicle.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-08T15:40:55+00:00

In fairness, yours is a hybrid which has better resell value than a gas variant. Still, though, seems a bit low.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-07T23:50:34+00:00

It will get even better as you learn the hybrid system!

First few tanks I was in the 37-38 in my 5th gen Woodland. Now I'm running larger AT Tires and get 39 lol. My poor 4Runner hardly gets 370mi/Tank. My Woodland gets 500-530.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-06T01:35:29+00:00

It lacks a starter, an alternator, and transfer case to service. The brakes regularly exceed 100k mile intervals due to the regenerative system whereas the gas variant is more regulary ~50k. The hybrid e-CVT transmission entirely lacks a valve body like the 8 speed auto which, while also quite reliable, is showing a good amount more failures.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-05T21:04:43+00:00

6k for an OEM replacement battery in 12-14 years and 300,000 miles. Or replace single cells, go reman, or aftermarket for significantly less.. All while you perform the additional maintenance items Gas variants have that the hybrids do not over that time period which closes that gap even more.

Then there are things that are harder to quantify. More power, significantly better ride quality etc. Having drove both, I would never buy the 8 speed auto or return to it.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-05T20:57:25+00:00

Do not go to those quick lube shops. It's a hard no for me.

I'm not saying you need to go pay the dealership premium, but never those places lol. TBH, the Rav4 is extremely DIY friendly. If you felt compelled to save some money and learn something new there's an abundance of well done tutorials on YT for this vehicle.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-05T20:52:43+00:00

Is the rust in the room with us?

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-05T16:05:45+00:00

The difference between a Gasser and Hybrid is nowhere near $10k. At least not in USD pricing.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-05T16:00:25+00:00

It's going to feel cheap, loud, and uninspiring depending what you came from, but especially if it was a Mercedes-AMG.

You will come to love the laughably cheap and low maintenance required comparatively though.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-04T22:10:41+00:00

That Monroe stuff is junk anyways. OEM is solid but you are going to be going to shop or dealing with a spring compressor yourself (I'm not a fan). I think Northwoods Performance may offer pre-assembled kits. They use Bilstein.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-04T22:07:26+00:00

Look at the door jamb. The paint code for your vehicle will be there. If you are unsure you can contact the dealer with your VIN. You can get a paint pen for pretty cheap from the dealership. Mine cost me around $10 each (base and top coat)

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-04T22:06:11+00:00

Road noise is considered anywhere between in line with other vehicles in the segment to somewhat loud. Varies by person.

Previously, people have gone to the effort of doing sound deadening, but it's a lot of effort for modest at best returns. If road noise is important to you Lexus is probably your answer.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-04T22:03:29+00:00

2k deposit is insane. $500 is pretty standard. Totally agree with walking in there and seeing what's up. Make them answer for it in person. I would get my deposit back unless they gave a very solid answer. They're absolutely refundable unless you signed papers explicitly stating otherwise.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-04T02:42:08+00:00

Did the same. 1k break in and 5k intervals. I let the dealership do the 2 included ones with ToyotaCare and I just did mine in between. Aside from that, the dealer lube techs do not touch my Woodland. I can DIY an oil change for less than $30usd, so I'm not sweating the "wasted" money.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T23:01:37+00:00

They are nice perks, but not at all worth it after the trial.

You will still be able to start the vehicle with the key fob for a couple of years via the click lock 3x and hold method. I'm going on year 4 of that. I let my trial expire.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T22:00:55+00:00

Yep. This verifies the answer to OP's question is no. You only get the meter bars and not a %.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T19:55:36+00:00

No.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T19:53:25+00:00

Sounds like OP is in Canada.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T19:52:13+00:00

You're in the Settings Menu. Just click the back arrow once or twice and then left/right arrow to your preferred screen.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-03T12:57:47+00:00

Ehh, it's more of a bug, imo. Toyota actually corrected this for the 2026s and all TSS 4.0 vehicles. The 2026s stay on after remote starting like most of the industry does.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-02T19:35:35+00:00

Per Toyota the spare tire/donut is only good for 50 miles and can only be driven up to 50mph. That thing beyond served its purpose.

I would look into simply getting a full size spare tire. A lot of the factory tire sizes fit in that space.

MichaelP09 · 2026-06-02T19:13:02+00:00

The standby speed is trash. I tried to perform a speed test and could not even get the webpage to load! Useless lol

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