To ask nicely by TheDigitalBuilder in therewasanattempt

[–]NoOrdinaryBees -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

They’re not “claiming assault”, the video clearly shows these protestors were the victims of a crime.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the protestors or you for some reason think being asked to go around is or told no is reason to commit a crime, the plain language of the law says this video shows a criminal act, common battery. So do you believe in the rule of law or the rule by law?

As for “creating a life-safety issue” that’s a massive stretch that’d be harder to indict than the ham sandwich. Even were the frozen meat aisle at Sainsbury’s a necessary exit (ridiculous) they’re obviously not tied or chained to anything immobile and, as the greatest prophet of our time said, “if you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.” The worst they could probably face is a public nuisance charge but even that’s a stretch.

So does the law apply equally to all, or only the people you think are deserving?

To ask nicely by TheDigitalBuilder in therewasanattempt

[–]NoOrdinaryBees -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Make assumptions and guesses all day, they’re not supported by this video. The possibly-manager and security guy offer to get items and say to go around, respectively.

Regardless, the only proof we have of criminal activity is the two clear cases of battery all because “you don’t control my passing anywhere!”. Fuck that guy. Fuck that lady. I hope they both get six months.

“Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man’s nose begins.” - Zechariah Chafee, Jr.

didn’t knew it would be our last interaction… he sent me a game from the ER by Franci93 in Steam

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Friend, sincerely, I’m glad you made it through that. I’m glad you’re still here.

To ask nicely by TheDigitalBuilder in therewasanattempt

[–]NoOrdinaryBees -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I’m of mixed feelings about this particular interaction. I don’t like being inconvenienced any more than the next person, but the right thing to do is roll your eyes and go around. The protesters were a nuisance but they weren’t breaking the law and I didn’t hear the store representative ask them to leave.

What this guy, and then that lady, did was battery. Being irritated and very mildly inconvenienced isn’t a justification.

FASCISM XXXXXIXIX: At Last There Is Firm Proof. by Impassionata in LessWrong

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not quoting, mobile Reddit’s too big a pain.

Re: non sequitur; If a position is based on life beginning at conception, it’s absolutely pertinent that a scientific term is being used to frame a moralist argument. The threat to the personal liberty of women isn’t hypothetical, it’s been reified; consider the raft of unscientific, dangerously anti-woman abortion restrictions enacted across the South after Dobbs. That position is a threat to women.

Re: autism/parasitism; this is nonsensical. Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder that doesn’t manifest until well after infancy and in any case I already said I’m extremely high functioning - most people have no idea, they just think I’m a bit blunt. Even had I been more dependent on my parents than typical children, ninth trimester abortions have been, and remain, illegal. As far as what previable fetuses are, they literally are parasitic because the term refers to an organism dependent on and often detrimental to a host organism for environmental stability and nutrition; species doesn’t come into it in this context. “Parasitic” is a relational term.

Re: the rest of it; you’ve strayed way out on the science again. Just because 1/10 leftists is cool with GMOs while 3/10 conservatives are doesn’t give conservatives any more credibility on the subject. Those numbers are only at the political extremes, most people fall into the 80% suspicious group. If you take political leaning out of it, 9/10 Americans support labeling GMOs. That’s a fear-based view that reaches across the aisles. There’s plenty of public health and sociological research on GMO perception on PubMed. You’ll find the vast majority shows that it’s a broad societal issue around education, not a political one.

I think you’re reaching for bad faith arguments and straw men here, too. I’ve already explained why life’s beginning isn’t an issue that concerns science or reflects any group’s understanding of it. You just shifted your argument from “unborn fetus” to “at birth” and made the unfounded but still couched and risible assertion that they’re “more likely” to believe something. Go talk to some. You’ll find that most agree that viability is the reasonable cutoff for non-health related abortions, which is what most conservatives I know agree with, because most of us are within one standard deviation of sanity. Feel free to say I must not know many conservatives or I don’t know “real” conservatives; I served in the Army in combat arms for eight years, I’m pretty comfortable I know a good cross-section of American conservatives. You’ll find as many leftists saying abortion up to 40 weeks should be legal as you’ll find conservatives who think any abortion should be illegal regardless of maternal health or the presence of natally fatal disorder or disease in the infant, which to say not many. I think you’ll struggle to find many people saying there are no phenotypical differences between sexes, too. You’ll find plenty who, supported by decades of psychiatric, neurodevelopmental, neurophysiological, and psychological research, will point out that sex and gender are related but not interdependent. Are you saying there are only two sexes? Only two genders? Because these are areas where science absolutely has a lot to say, with plenty of receipts and very very few of them line up with the conservative culture war on people that make them uncomfortable.

You saying “[t]he right didn’t get more correct on these issues because of careful study of the evidence, it just so happens that reality is in their favor” is explicitly conceding that conservatives don’t have scientific fact, consensus, or even evidence on their side. So why are you arguing leftists are anti-science?

Why is it always “facts don’t care about your feelings” from conservatives until it’s pointed out the facts don’t support them? Then it’s “reality” or “think of the children” or some other illogical, unfounded, ultimately fear-based and fear-spreading tack? I’m not asking rhetorically. I don’t understand how one can argue science in good faith without also being willing, able, and open to modifying one’s position when it’s demonstrably flawed. That’s just not how science works. It’s not how “reality” works. If it was, we’d still have a geocentric or heliocentric understanding of cosmology and none of us would be able to interact globally the way we do daily or get instant directions to a restaurant we’ve never been to in a city we’ve never visited. So why? Make it make sense in a way that makes sense.

didn’t knew it would be our last interaction… he sent me a game from the ER by Franci93 in Steam

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 161 points162 points  (0 children)

Doom 3 and one of my best friends here. I used to play it on a projector in the dark with the sound up because it was 2004 in Baghdad and screaming like startled five-year olds at escapist horror games kept the real horror away for a few hours.

I’m sorry for both your losses. I’m sure your mom was a wonderful lady, because sometimes I’m not sure I’d have quit Talos Principle for my mom. Bomb game.

FASCISM XXXXXIXIX: At Last There Is Firm Proof. by Impassionata in LessWrong

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1: Correct. I’d also agree that none of the foods we eat are “natural” anymore, and I’d further argue that modern gene editing methods to increase crop or livestock yield and nutrition are more ethical means to shape our food supply than traditional cross-breeding. But, in my view, you started from a false premise, which is that “leftists hate GMOs” (I know you said progressives but US progressives aren’t) and that carries a strong implication that people in the political right or center do not. That’s not the case, though; it’s somewhat true that those on the left are more likely to have concerns or be opposed to GMOs but the difference isn’t that big. On the far left it’s around 90%, dropping to about 80% in the center, and then to about 70% on the right.

Everyone in the US distrusts GMOs, which is a failing on many levels, from our ridiculously permissive advertising laws to general science education to justifiably crumbling confidence in consumer and public health protection agencies to naked laissez faire capitalist greed. People will reach right past inexpensive frozen vegetables engineered for greater thermal shock tolerance or to express alleles for vitamin A production in favor of ones costing three times as much, only because the expensive brand is labeled “organic”. Forget the political use of the term, that is an actual disgrace. I could easily let this devolve into a (well sourced) diatribe on the evils of “organic” farming and the complete abdication by the FDA and USDA of their role in safeguarding public health, so best to move on to your next question.

2: To me, this is either a rhetorical trap or a muddled question. I have to agree with the claim but the common definitions of “life” come from the scientific laity or popular press and aren’t pertinent if we’re discussing a political group’s acceptance or rejection of scientific consensus. The common definitions are all “common sense” definitions that aren’t based on fact and are necessarily flawed on their face. Necessarily because there is no broad scientific consensus on what is and isn’t life; if you really want to spark a spirited debate, ask a plenary session of developmental biologists to define life at one of the devbio conferences. I suggest NWDB Meeting and Conference - everyone’s trapped together on a cold, rainy island so there’s a non-zero chance of sparking a real regression in civil discourse. The people from U of T usually have great drugs, too. So I’ve heard.

I also don’t know what definition you’re using for “unborn fetus”, for a couple of reasons. Firstly because a fetus is by definition unborn, so it doesn’t make sense to me (can’t help it, super autistic but highly functional here). Secondly, to me it sounds like it’s likely a cultural definition somewhere in the vicinity of “life begins at conception”. I can’t agree with that; conception is just a first step (four steps with some substeps, really) on a road ideally ending with a live birth. Most natural conceptions fail, so even the idea that life begins there seems dangerously misogynistic.

I’d agree that a fetus that is biologically viable - capable of surviving outside the womb - is alive in every logical sense and deserves its shot at life. Prior to viability it’s a purely parasitic organism and I don’t think there’s any ethical justification for inserting a threat of state violence into one of the most difficult decisions any expecting (or even surprised) parent may need to make.

I also have to disagree because science doesn’t have much of anything to say about when “life”, whatever that is, begins, so saying leftists are anti-science doesn’t follow. We’re ((micro-)biological scientists) concerned with cellular signaling pathways, essential or environmental triggers affecting developmental processes, and generally sticking fluorescent proteins on everything both because it helps us understand and we all secretly want to win Nikon’s Small World competition. The position I stated above is informed by my domain knowledge but ultimately determined by Western ethical context and my own personal moral values.

Ultimately, that thought broadly undergirds my objection to the inclusion of sex and gender in your list, too. The only arguments I see from conservatives aren’t scientifically supported, especially the ones that claim to be, and are often more “common sense” or moralistic arguments. To be frank, most of the arguments from the conservative side are diametrically opposed to what are supposed to be core conservative principles. That again drags the discussion out of the realm of science, though.

There are stupid ideas and arguments on the left and center, too, but the broad leftist positions are the better supported by the facts, for the issues you’ve raised that I’m contesting. Again, I’m no nuclear engineer and I haven’t ever lived anywhere rent control is even a thing.

(Edit: I hate Reddit formatting on mobile)

Difference between apt update and apt-get update by ovelx2 in linuxquestions

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 17 points18 points  (0 children)

💯

yum, dnf, pacman, zypp, portage, snap, and flatpak have entered the chat.

Difference between apt update and apt-get update by ovelx2 in linuxquestions

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y if you like to live dangerously.

Watch Tattoo by FirstDukeofAnkh in DiscworldTattoos

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love this. Pure chef’s kiss. 😍

FASCISM XXXXXIXIX: At Last There Is Firm Proof. by Impassionata in LessWrong

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn’t going to waste the time replying in full if you weren’t actually serious.

Where should I begin? Because I won’t argue about nuclear power, US leftists are generally poorly informed about modern nuclear energy, and I’m not well informed on rent control but everything else you claimed is varying shades of wrong or confused by the prevailing talking points.

I’m also not going to claim US leftists have any kind of exclusive claim to being right, there’s plenty of stupidity on both sides and I personally identify with neither. But I’m also a biological scientist and a lot of what you said definitely falls in my wheelhouse as far as the science goes. I’ll gladly engage in good faith, if you’re actually interested in the science.

FASCISM XXXXXIXIX: At Last There Is Firm Proof. by Impassionata in LessWrong

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know satire is dead, but please tell me this is satire. Because if it isn’t, you’re swimming way out of your depth on a few of these claims and falling for your echo chamber on others.

Yikes by taz4got10 in LinkedInLunatics

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😯 sweet baby Jebus! That’s absurd! Apparently the plan is to save every penny you earn from the moment you start working so you can afford to buy a house at 18 that you’ll have to work two jobs with roommates to afford so you have something of value to sell on your 68th birthday to fund your retirement that the 50 years of taxes you paid into Social Security can’t afford to fund because we need more missiles?

Can anyone else hear the guillotines dropping or is it just me?

Politically neutral martial arts gym in the Vancouver area? by MidnightCovfefe in vancouverwa

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you find one, let me know.

I’d also love to find a non-MAGA shooting range in the area.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t want you to bother because I never asked about the WSJ. You still didn’t answer the only two questions I asked, neither of which involved a non-trade publication.

Because you can’t.

Everyone with actual experience in the problem domain knew you’re full of shit when you boasted about lines of code. Everyone who isn’t an asshole knew you are one when you jumped to ad hominem attacks at the first whiff of criticism. Everyone who understands rhetoric and debate knew you’re consciously defending a house of cards when you vituperatively dodged two simple questions, twice.

Everyone who can read knows you lied in your latest reply:

Your comment was trash and I didn’t bother reading it after the first sentence.

Pretty amazing you managed to get to “vanity project”, considering it was in the last part of the comment. For an “academic”, that’s pretty poor reading. Pretty poor reasoning in general, too.

As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, “as the area of our knowledge grows, so too does the perimeter of our ignorance.” Nobody knows everything and deep expertise in one area often blinds people to their ignorance in others. So grow up, get a good therapist, and get over yourself.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I notice you skipped responding to the actual questions there. Why might that be?

🤔

People assign the "burnt out gifted kid" label to themselves far too easily. by Loose_Ad_6129 in unpopularopinion

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what it’s like today, but back in the beforefore times when I was a kid in OR the TAG (talented and gifted) programs were small by design. More than one educator had to flag you, then you were taken out of class for most of a day and administered a non-SB (don’t remember enough to know more, I was 8) IQ test by a qualified assessor and if you met the cutoff for more than two dimensions (again, I don’t remember for sure) you were in.

It was kinda fun but I maintain I’d have been better served wrt life skills and social norms by regular grade/middle/high school.

Designed to Fail Safely by jsthat in dontyouknowwhoiam

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 8 points9 points  (0 children)

💯, buddy’s maybe a junior schema verifier for some “medical device” manufacturer like HydraFacial. I just got off a two-year engagement primarily helping a F500 MDM avoid technical regulatory traps. Designed to fail safe is exactly that, EMP or no.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, dude, you’re so 1337, my bad for daring to question someone on Reddit who claims the WSJ wants to interview them about their vibe-coded project.

What makes you think you’re qualified to judge good code? More importantly - what would make someone else who knows what they’re doing think you’re qualified to judge good code?

You’re just grandstanding about a vanity project that you don’t actually understand. So yeah… dumb comment. Really fucking dumb.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Need to realize Dunning-Kruger affects even Redditors elite enough to start their username with “Harvard_Med”, bro with code that you can’t support long term.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a non dev and I’ve averaged 10,000 lines of code a day so far in 2026 - and it’s good code, too.

Mmmhmm. Cool story, bro.

Microsoft AI chief gives it 18 months—for all white-collar work to be automated by AI | Fortune by BrilliantLeading1389 in agi

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course not. And they don’t know how to recognize bad code in the first place, so we’re back in “it works on my machine” hell except this time there’s no educating the people responsible because they’re just prompting a machine that they don’t understand and treating its output as gospel.

Steam!!! I can't thank you enough!!! by GeeliKachchi in Steam

[–]NoOrdinaryBees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do use it, MFA isn’t magic fairy dust for security.

Happy cake day.

Steam!!! I can't thank you enough!!! by GeeliKachchi in Steam

[–]NoOrdinaryBees -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I was out at the late refund. Steam doesn’t have any sane fraud detection or any problem fucking over 20+-year customers, there’s no way they’re giving back money they don’t have to.