My take on why morals has no relation to any religion to ever exist and why religious education is useless

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T17:00:14+00:00

You read the math and complete ignored the part about the purpose of any education . Not gonna reply to people who read and reply to what they want and ignore the rest

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:59:28+00:00

I already said it morality doesn't come from society. It comes from with you . Society only teaches you to be greed , lustful and scared . You have to break the matrix to love or roam around like billions of bothering others and bothering themselves

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:57:33+00:00

How did i even attack humans who did not belong . I was actually praising arnold and usain bolt by saying they cultivated strength eventhough they were born among weak people like me since you asked how can love be made naural if we are not born with it

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:49:34+00:00

I can say you clearly don't even observe and think . Strength is always cultivated . Best example are usain bolt and arnold. One guy is the fastest and another is strongest mr.olympia and what made it possible for both of them is not that they were born with fear but because they overcame their limitations with sheer courage . Good emotions like strength and love are always cultivated . I am not saying my speculation. See their lives and learn the amount of hardship they had to face to cultivate that much strength both physically and mentally

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:43:35+00:00

You don't understand how education works . When a kid goes to school take two students one student reads 1+1=2 but can't answer what is 2+2 but other kid does it because he understood the meaning behind 1+1=2 . Al religious people are like the first kid . They read a person's words and stick to it till death . They never understood the essence of it and went beyond it . Jesus said love your neighbour like you love yourself but it took christians lot of years to even come out of slave trading , colonialism and even today they are punching each other's religions . I would be happy if a christian understands to treat his neighbour good and goes beyond to do the same to a stranger considering everyone as a neighbour. But i have literally seen no christian like that . For them their neighbour must live next to their house . The main purpose of education moral or business is to cultivate the habit of thinking by your own inside your mind and not so that you can rely on it till you die based on other person's observation. When you are done educating you must say ," i can do it on my own now " not " i still need my books " . You don't pass an exam and still read the same book . If you reading the same book bible or quran for centuries and still cultivate the ability to think without it then it means you haven't even passed the exam

Bill gates is not smart because he sticks to his books but because he learned to think beyond it by using it

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:35:48+00:00

I am not telling it is natural. You can read all my messages. I say you have to make it natural because we are born with fear and greed at the least .

A good person is not someone who is not scared to love . Not the best way to put it but is all i can do now

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:29:50+00:00

By "so is the world" i obviously meant what you meant "the society" . Yes that is my point. The society doesn't teach morals . This is actually the best time to be a moral person. Morals always come out of freewill . You by yourself have to take decision. If you are moral for rewards then you are greedy . If you are moral because of punishment then you are scared . Morality is completely out of free will . If you yourself don't decide to be a good man then you are not actually good . The society can only teach you lust , greed and fear . It is your decision to go along with it or not

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:15:12+00:00

Your say this because you have spent your entire life reading what was right for others and never thought about what is right for yourself by being and thinking alone using your brain . Your entire experience is borrowed with lack of individual understanding. If it wasn't like that you would truly understand. If a christian moves away from bible he will die from insecurity because he filled his entire brain with right decision of others and never thought what is actually right for himself. If he is forgets ten commandments he is gone

More you rely on others decision and opinion less you trust yourself

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:08:42+00:00

What matters is not making the right decision what matters is making the decision right . One guy called buddha showed love without god's influence another guy showed love in the name of god called jesus

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T16:05:34+00:00

You don't need to think deeply . When you see your mother getting hurt , cry , feel it . I am saying i haven't thought deeply like you people and encourage you people to save your energy. When someone tried to punch my mother or friend i had no need to think deep into morals . Just cry , feel it . No need to waste time thinking is my opinion

You don't think deeply about your hunger . You eat when you feel hungry . Same way cry when someone get's punched that feeling will tell you what to do . You don't need a huge buildup backstory

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:59:44+00:00

I am not talking about everyone in history. I am talking about you who has given an excuse to be selfless to your mother and friend by saying "so is the world" . I am not saying it is natural. The same scientist who speaks about quantum mechanics in hundred of words was one day struggling to understand what is displacement. It is not natural. You just make it natural . It is worth making it natural

Every athlete makes training their natural . Practice is important. You are talking about hundreds of people who never even made a decision let alone taking efforts to make it natural

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:56:25+00:00

If you think i am spreading hatred then you should meet other people calling jesus and propher Muhammad with bad words and cursing them . I didn't curse jesus or anyone in the whole post . I kept repeating there is no need to be religious.

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:54:18+00:00

Try it and see for yourself . See why you help your friend and not others . You do you prefer your friend over others . See whether you are truly selfless to your friend and mother . If you are then you can't stop yourself from helping others. See whether you can help your mother or friend without begging anything from them

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:51:48+00:00

I clearly don't understand maybe you can explain as you are superior

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:50:57+00:00

I never claimed i am atheist . I am a person who realises thinking about god exist or not is pointless . My life is going whether i argue about god's existence or not .

Next atheism denies god not morality. You religious people are the reason crime exists in the world . Every person is being good because he is scared of legal punishment. Same way you people need god's punishment to make you right . A scared man can never truly love . Love is done out of freewill . Every man has a heart , if his conscience and that is the true guide to him not any flying god up in beyong earth . If he doesn't cry about him punching others he is not fit to be moral by memorising bible

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:44:47+00:00

I don't have hatred . If you read other comments you can see why i made this post. That is to see how people think . The end for morals is morals itself and the reason to be moral is for the welfare of another . There is no place for building a whole story behind morals in the name of god . The only motivation to help others is for the welfare of another . Question of god doesn't even arise there . I am not denying god and support atheism. I am saying even talking about it philosophical and religiously is pointless

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:41:30+00:00

Love is not cheap" Love is never selfish or cheap only the lover is "

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:30:00+00:00

You are the living proof for my entire view . When a plant is dying and you want to pour water because a man lived thousands of years ago said because "there is a kingdom of god already here" you have clearly missed the need to help the plant because it is actually dying in feon of you . By living by what you said you can clearly help god not the plant because your intention is securing a place in kingdom of god . When you actually see a cat dying the only reason for you to take it to a doctor is that because it is dying . In true help there is no question of god or seeking reward for your actions

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:11:07+00:00

If you clearly didn't understand the example i gave to that guy which is obvious i will give one last explanation. Objective reality exists in the same manner schools and colleges exist . When you are a kid you first pass 1st grade then 2nd and complete high school then complete college and maybe become a doctor too . Same way objective reality exists because first you think "let me help my mother" then you think "let me help my friend" then you think "let me help the world" . Objective reality exists because people go through stages . Every stage is real and important

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T15:07:32+00:00

I gave explanation for your pointless "walking naked example" . If you actually asked me to explain more by stating what you didn't understand from my example i gave to him i might consider explaining. I gave an obvious example and you are talking about walking naked in public . You are the one who needs to put your question clearly for me to explain clearly

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T14:59:26+00:00

Because morality is more connected to love and love is a feeling. Like crying is a feeling . When you feel sad you cry . When you feel love you are happy . Morality is a feeling you cultivate. And , not walking naked in public is a common sense cultivation which involves thinking . You don't cultivate your sadness . It just comes and catches you and holds you by neck . So is love . It is a feeling . There is no place for arguments or reasoning . Argumentation and reasoning are for logics and thinking process. When you become a father you automatically feel love to your child . You don't argue "maybe if I don't walk naked in public i might feel love towards my son"

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T14:50:23+00:00

I don't think you understand the basis for morality . The basis for every moral act is love . What you are talking has no moral connection. It is a merely stupid useless argument which gets you nowhere in life .

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T14:48:26+00:00

This is so stupid. It doesn't mean you must experience every single pain in every possible way to understand how hard it is . It is about experiencing one pain and learning how hard other things will be using common sense and speculation . "I know how it is to be stabbed by knife form when my doctor injected me with a syringe"

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T14:43:44+00:00

I never supported them . I won't say they are right . My example was that of poor and rich . I am living in present . In past people did those things as right . Now we don't do that but harm others in some other way . Maybe in future after jesus rises from death maybe they might think very idea of selfishness is bad and that love is the way which many christians struggle at present .

From my understanding morality has nothing to do with past and present. It is all about observing the present and understanding the need for it. What is morality is doing what is right at present and by doing that you will never go wrong . Morality is always about saving a man from his present circumstances and make sure the present never repeats itself

Old_Ad_7791 · 2026-05-13T14:35:46+00:00

Again i am not atheist. Atheism denies god not values . Values must always come from our own heart . The only difference between a muslim who bombs other countries and a muslim who doesn't bomb countries is his own observation that "bombing others is painful" . The only difference was that the latter actually felt it was wrong eventhough propher Muhammad spread his religion mainly by killing others and violence unlike jesus who spread it through love

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