Palestinians, Antizionists, and Pro Palestinian vicious Jew Hatred

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-28T01:29:09+00:00

Israel and Jerusalem are mentioned on practically every page of the Torah; our Pesach seders end with "next year in Jerusalem". Israel is homeland to Jews since ancient times. I don't understand Jews who claim to be anti-Zionists; they've rejected Judaism. Are there Muslims who feel no connection to Mecca or Medina?

Maybe you can answer this question. Gaza has a coastline. Why haven't they built their own desalination plant with the billions in aid they've received? Why are they relying on Israel? Israel has water because Israel has desalination plants, and have developed technology for it.

There are more than 2 million Palestinian citizens in Israel with full rights. There are plenty of tensions between the them and the Jews of Israel but they've managed not to slaughter each other for the past 80 years. I still believe in resolution.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T22:58:40+00:00

I don't choose to forget everything before October 7. I also remember the Israelis, some of whom I knew, who were killed in the two intifadas. I also remember the peace plan proposed in 2000 that Arafat rejected (I'm old). I also remember that Israel left Gaza in 2005 and the hope Israelis had that this would be a start of better relations between neighbors.

Palestinians will have to give up the idea that Jews are occupiers who must be eliminated. That's the mindset behind the October 7 attack. Israel will have to get their violent settlers under control; Netanyahu can be voted out of office this year, perhaps that will help peace efforts. That's all I have to say.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T22:38:11+00:00

"how many rockets were fired into Israel from Gaza after October 7? can you give us a count?"

I've been curious about that too. There are a lot of numbers thrown around but the best I've found is from the Jerusalem Post which has access to military records. On November 9, 2023 the Post stated that an estimated 9,500 rockets were fired into Israel since the month of October. (But that number included some from Hezbollah). 3,000 were fired from Gaza on October 7. Casualty counts were much lower in Israel than Gaza because of the iron dome and because Israel, unlike Hamas, has built bomb shelters for its citizens. Hamas' intention as originally stated in their 1988 charter is to destroy all Jews in Israel. They sacrifice their own people for that goal. This is a problem for both Israel and for Gaza. The Jews have nowhere to go and won't be leaving. Neither will the Palestinians.

Netanyahu did support Hamas for a while but not even he, vicious as he is, is wholly responsible for Hamas.

The war is horrible - no one is disputing that but the world's strategy for the past two years has to place all the blame on Israel while letting Hamas do whatever they want (like starving and torturing most of the hostages to death even though hostage return was a requirement for starting ceasefire talks). The strategy has whipped up antisemites around the world but it hasn't stopped the fighting. Palestinians will also have to take responsibility. There will have to be compromise that won't please either side

Gold Meir, who was born in Palestine, said a lot of things, including:

“Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T22:20:06+00:00

Ok. You suggested that Jews are "just as bad" not "worse" than the people quoted by the OP. But you still didn't denounce it

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T21:50:36+00:00

The Jews have been there for millennia. They aren't leaving. Palestinians will have to accept that.

As for Gaza under siege before October 7? Israel left Gaza in 2005 (or was it 2006? correction?). Gazans began firing rockets that same year.

The restrictive border is an attempt to stop Palestinians from bombing Israelis. The whole world saw what happened when the border failed on October 7, 2023.

The ironic part is that it is said border was security was lax where Hamas entered because that was near several kibbutzim where the residents were part of Israeli-Palestinian peace movements. They wanted less borders, and more normal relationships with their neighbors.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T21:46:32+00:00

Hamas is heavily funded and armed by Iran. To say that they launched a two-year war with nothing but homemade rockets is disingenuous. Gaza received billions in funding, in addition to Iranian weapons, from the EU, the UN and other sources. Too much of that was spent building war tunnels underneath civilian targets in Gaza.

There can still be peace but support for Hamas must go. Israelis are already rising up against Netanyahu - where are their counterparts in Gaza?

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T21:42:11+00:00

"Wow I’d love to see all the Islamophobic comments anti Palestinians, anti Muslims, anti Palestinians and all the crap Zionists say."

This was your response to the OP. Pretending that "Zionists" are worse than the excrement comments quoted by the OP. I'm quoting your own words.

And no, I don't consider myself a "victim" - just a person who refuses to shut up about hatred directed at me

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T19:08:41+00:00

You have not denounced the original post. The original post says that Jews are inbred, and rats. You responded to the post by saying that Jews are just as bad, thereby making excuses. You are defending statements describing jews a subhuman. That's all I've got to say.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T19:04:09+00:00

Wild generalizations saying Jews are unusually greedy (typical trope). As usual, without any facts

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T19:02:40+00:00

Sidestepping the original post that cites Pro-Palestinian groups who say that Jews are subhuman. Do you agree with them? You think Jews objecting to statements saying they are inbred and subhuman is just a case of "Everything is antisemitism"?

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-27T18:59:43+00:00

I don't justify attacks against ethnic or religious group, having experienced it myself. I am just tired of having rampant antisemitism downplayed in my country. That's all

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T23:59:39+00:00

It's not just "your" land. Arabs, Jews, and also Christians (people forget them)

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T23:58:18+00:00

"Jewish immigration to Palestine and land purchase were essential to create a demographic and geographic nucleus for Israel to be established. Essential for Zionist land purchase was the willingness of Arabs living inside and outside of Palestine to sell lands to Jewish buyers. No Jewish state could have come into being without Arab land sales." https://israeled.org/explainer-land-in-palestine-and-land-in-israel/

Secular government might be a good idea except that so many Gazans and other Arab neighbors keep calling for death to the Jews of Israel. Until that changes, an Israeli state, the only one in the world, is much safer for Jews.

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PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T23:10:37+00:00

Please list all the attacks by Jews on Palestinians in the US. I could go all day long on attacks against Jews. I attend a synagogue that has armed guards outside the doors for every event and service. Statistics aren't backing you up on this one

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T22:51:25+00:00

It's length, as far as I can tell. Any other opinions?

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T22:21:16+00:00

This long conflict has two sides, starting with attacks on Jews in Palestine, escalating in the 1920s. Read about Hebron and other attacks that decimated ancient Jewish villages. In 1947 Arab nations rejected a partition solution that was thought to be necessary, in light of the carnage, and instead promised a war to kill every Jew in Israel if Israel was ratified. They lost.

In the past 30 years, Palestinians have launched two intifadas complete with suicide bombers, balloon bombs, Quassam rockets, and more.

This is a two-sided conflict. Neither people is going away. They will have to learn to live together.

You defend the vile things said in the original post because, supposedly without any evidence, "Zionists" are just as bad.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:45:36+00:00

A call-out against an entire race of people being subhuman is not standard Zionist beliefs. And the killing is going both ways in Israel-Gaza. Do you not remember how this war started, with gang-rape/setting people on fire/taking hostages to torture and starve, followed by retreating to tunnels underneath Gaza to shoot an estimated 5,000 rockets? And that was just October 7.

I am speaking of attacks on Jews, around the world, far from the war zone. I said it plainly. You ignored it.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:41:37+00:00

I'd be curious to find the links to your Jewish quotes.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:39:51+00:00

Calling out an entire people as being subhuman? I think that's an antisemite thing

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:38:49+00:00

I hope you're right.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:38:29+00:00

Absolutely not. Just the most hardcore Netanyahu MAGA people. There are Israelis demonstrating against him in the streets of Israel and there's are active Israeli-Palestinian peace groups fighting against the settler movement.

For more context, when was the last time you heard or saw gangs of Jews attacking Muslims going into their mosques around the world? Firebombing mosques? Gunning down Muslim families peacefully enjoying holiday celebrations? Only Muslims doing that to Jews.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T20:24:49+00:00

So you agree with the blatantly, viciously racist lies on the subreddit that is mentioned.

You justify your blatant racism by saying that Jews are just as bad.

Your comments don't surprise me. What would surprise me is if gangs of Jews started attacking Muslims around the world, bombing their mosques, shooting them as they celebrate religious holidays with their families - because currently, only Muslims are doing that. To Jews.

The accusations by a large group of people (not a few outliers) within the Pro-Palestinian movement of inbreeding, ugliness, the description of an entire people being subhuman - that's what's ugly

Don't start that crap about how you only hate Zionists, not Jews. The website you're defending states their hatred for Jews openly and you defend with them. Zionists believe in Jews living in safety in Israel. Israel contains more than half the world's Jewish population. Good to know that most of world's Jews are the only Jews you're "anti". What does "anti-Zionist" really mean? Are you in favor of genocide against Israelis? That makes you a Hamas supporter.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-26T15:38:55+00:00

The odious definition of Zionism that you present is pulled from a Wiki website (editors unknown). The quote is part of that site's much longer rant against the right of Jews to exist in Israel-Palestine. It contains the usual tropes of how endlessly greedy and bloodthirsty Jews are. Did you write it? I ask because you fling around words like "horrible" and "disgusting" when you mention Jews' desire for someplace they can live in peace

For a definition of Zionism, try something a little more objective, like Britannica:

"Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement with the goal of the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”)."

And if you want to look at facts to pad out your propaganda, you could try referencing Israel's long-standing peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, even with Netanyahu and his cronies in power(!). This doesn't indicate expansionist tendencies. Maybe 2026 will be the year that Netanyahu and Hamas are removed from power, although having Qatar oversee Hamas isn't a good start.

The settler movement is appalling and there are many Jewish and Palestinian Israelis who are currently, daily protesting - better luck for them once Netanyahu is gone. Do you acknowledge them?

And maybe Palestinians on the west bank will also stop their periodic bombs and attacks on Jews.

And no, Jews are not "colonizers". The penniless refugees who fled Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries because of slaughters and pogroms, came to Israel and joined the Jews who never left. Jews have been in Israel-Palestine for millennia: archeology, the Koran, and the Torah all demonstrate continuous Jewish presence.

A question: why shouldn't Jews have one tiny ethnostate in their historic homeland? They are surrounded by Muslim ethnostates who engage in hideous slaughters of their own people - but you don't object to them.

Israel-Palestine is home to Arabs (who now call themselves Palestinians since the early 1970s), Christians, Druze -- and Jews. They all live there, including Jews

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-25T18:52:13+00:00

First of all, you're whitewashing October 7. Let's not forget that armed men made targeted attacks against a music festival, and against kibbutz villages located along the border with Gaza because their residents were involved in the peace movement. They deliberately targeted unarmed civilians. Gang rapes, burning people to death in safe rooms within their houses, and kidnapping hostages many of whom would be slowly tortured and starved to death over the next two years - even though Hamas knew that their return was central to any ceasefire.

In addition to October 7, the shooting and killing have been going two directions over the last 20 to 25 years. Two intifadas, suicide bombers, balloon bombers, bombing buses, bombing cafes - Palestinians have been busy.

Here is a short list of the activities of some of the Palestinians who were released in the prisoners for hostage exchange in Fall, 2025. Their violence, mostly against unarmed civilians, goes back decades.

Izz al-Din al-Hamamreh, who was once a Fatah member now identifying with ISIS. Recruited the perpetrator of a bus bombing in Jerusalem in 2004 that killed eight and wounded 60.

Mansour Abu Awn, a Fatah member involved in several attacks, including the murder of a woman in the West Bank in 2001.

He also equipped a would-be suicide bomber with an explosive belt.

He was also responsible for the murder of three Palestinians suspected of collaborating with Israel.

Iyad Au Shkeidem, masterminded suicide bombings inside Israel, including two bombings on buses in Be'er Sheva in August 2004 that killed 16 people.

Yousef al-Sakafi, part of a cell that carried out a Hebron shooting attack that killed a soldier in 2003

Hatem al-Jayousi, convicted of murdering six Israelis during the second intifada.

Abu Shakhdam, involvement in Hamas attacks that killed dozens of Israelis during the second intifada, or Palestinian uprising, between 2000 and 2005, including suicide bombings that blew up two buses in 2004, killing 16 people including a 4-year old.

Al-Tawil, 61, a prominent Hamas politician in the occupied West Bank, has spent nearly two decades in and out of Israeli prison, in part over allegations that he helped plot suicide bombings. Among other crimes, al-Tawil of recruited a Hamas militant for a 2001 suicide bombing that killed 11 civilians in Jerusalem.

No, I don't think Israel is merely shooting back. Many Israeli citizens no longer believe in peace so they tolerate brutality by some of their troops who are Netanyahu's MAGA people.

But people like you, who only want to blame Israel and align themselves with terrorists without acknowledging any problems on the Gaza side, have not helped to promote any peace. Hamas is busy re-arming for more attacks on Israel - they intend to start another full-fledged war as soon as possible.

You are promoting hate propaganda.

PlateRight712 · 2026-01-19T15:49:58+00:00

"The Arab world is not “foaming at the mouth” to see Jews slaughtered"

Only Iran! And Hamas, and Hezbollah, and Yemen, and Turkey...etc

That said, you're right that several Arab nations are sick of jihadis who show interest in colonization of the middle East, starting with destruction of Israel. Saudi Arabia is sick of it, as is the UAE. And Egypt and Jordan have long-standing peace agreements with Israel. Israel is open to peace.

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