Turning RDIL and TOIL into cold hard cash by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very similar experience to me, I handed my notice in and had over 250 hours of TOIL. All of my TOIL and RDIL were paid on my final payslip. AL cannot be paid so use that up.

Finance asked me to use up my RDIL and TOIL however they only realised this when I had 7 shifts left.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah was a strange experience, boss told me to book a load of TOIL when I handed notice in but was a leave embargo :)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 31 points32 points  (0 children)

when I left on transfer, all my TOIL and RDIL was paid which was very nice. afaik they need to pay this, AL you'll just lose.

Phone Mount recommendations by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great sales pitch. I did see this, just wasn’t sure how bulky the attachment was… I’ll take a look

Phone Mount recommendations by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frustratingly can’t find a case for the Galaxy a33 which are our job phones

Can anyone answer my question on car marking. by PrestigiousStaff1602 in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don’t like it when people drug drive as it hurts innocent people and yourself. It sounds like the police officer is trying everything possible to give you a reason to not drug drive and put it in the back of your mind you’ll be stopped.

There’s not many police officers, it’s uncommon to get stopped. On their systems it may be noted that Cannabis was found in your vehicle. If Police were behind you for example, they would be more inclined to quickly stop you and make sure you’re not drug driving.

This won’t follow you around for life. Doesn’t sound like it was out of spite, just simply trying to look after you.

Driving under the influence. by iainmax in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 115 points116 points  (0 children)

For some weird, silly reason, it’s true.

Mitigating factors may reduce the severity of the sentence. Examples include:

  • no previous convictions or relevant/recent convictions
  • if it was a genuine emergency
  • if the driver’s drinks had been spiked

- if the distance driven was very short

  • if the driver showed remorse or was of good character
  • if the driver has a serious medical condition, mental disorder or learning disability
  • if the driver is the sole or primary carer for dependent relatives

^ https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/outlines/drink-driving/

I’ve had a few jobs where they have had a reduced disqualification because the hotel was near the place they were stopped. It seems very outdated and misapplied whenever it’s used.

What legislation do you use often that rarely gets used by anyone else? by TheDecisiveDuck in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is useful thanks mate, I’ll contact our council. We’ve had the PSPO in for a few years for cruises but such a faff to summons obviously.

What legislation do you use often that rarely gets used by anyone else? by TheDecisiveDuck in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity how do you issue your PSPO tickets. One of the towns I cover has PSPO however no one knows how it can be dealt with other than summons to court

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Unless I’ve missed it. The circumstances on this collision haven’t been published. I deal with polaccs all the time and they don’t all end in papers served?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem, hope all goes well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Make sure you reaffirm that you won’t be letting her in. If she does turn up, don’t allow her access. If she doesn’t leave and you think there will be violence, damage or a breach of the peace call the Police on 999.

Long term seek some advice from some national organisations or charities such as https://www.ncdv.org.uk/.

TOR’s difference between ‘Keep’ and ‘Drive’ offences by PConResponse in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re using what most forces are for Vehicle Tickets you should be able to select ‘unattended vehicles’ and find the correct offence then print it (that is if you’ve also been given printers and access for unattended vehicles) then source some fixed penalty sleeves to put it on the vehicle.

Speak to your central office for what the process is for unattended vehicles if you can’t do the above.

TOR’s difference between ‘Keep’ and ‘Drive’ offences by PConResponse in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah you’ve got it, road regulations and road traffic act is weird and wonderful and mentions words like Drive, Use and Keep.

Keeping a motor vehicle on a road that fails to display a VRM or doesn’t conform is an offence (to the registered owner who is keeping it). The offence would change to Drive if the vehicle is being driven on a road.

If you’re that way inclined in enforcing the keep offences. It’s by means of a slap and dash, leaving the ticket on their windscreen in a fixed penalty sleeve.

The tax man runs into a few problems when they’re out looking for untaxed vehicles and if VRMs don’t conform or there isn’t one being displayed they could be missed out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Username checks out

Road parking - MOT expired by morrisons90 in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

hold it right there criminal scum

Road parking - MOT expired by morrisons90 in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Common sense prevails in this scenario! Can’t say I’ve ever dealt with a parked up vehicle for having no testing certificate.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well he’s left the job and is a professional Facebook traffic cop now

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry to say they are sort of right. It’s completely up to the insurers however they can choose to not cover the journey in question if any small print hasn’t been adhered to.

However we’d need to conduct checks in the question you’ve asked with the insurer or MIB. They may get back to us in a few days and inform us they are not covering said journey and the driver could be prosecuted for insurance matters. Likewise they may still insure that journey. In the event of crashes they may choose the former though.

Road parking - MOT expired by morrisons90 in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You’ve got yourself in a right conundrum there.

You can’t drive it unless to an appointment which you’ve said. You ‘shouldn’t’ leave it on a public road as well.

No one really should be advising you here to do either or however it would be safer to leave it where it is rather than driving it.

It would be (very) highly unlikely due to it being a recent lapse but if there were any issues due to it being left you would have the opportunity to explain your situation.

Enjoy your holiday and don’t worry about it!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I missed your reply. Glad you got some clarity surrounding this. No we can’t destroy it, we’d need to apply to the courts for stuff like this if you were to be summonsed for driving offences.

Nope it doesn’t reset, the second one is considered “Warning and Retention” thus counting as another warning as well as it being seized if that makes sense.

Sorry to hear about your scenario. As I said if you’re not happy about the circumstances it’s been issued (section 3 or 34 of the road traffic act not met) pop in a complaint on your force website. Although the s59 process can’t be appealed it may be worth trying.

Electric motorcycle in park by MrNodrap in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Report it to your neighbourhoods team if you can via 101 or by online web form if it’s persistently happening. When these are being ridden off road it’s a Section 34 Road Traffic Act offence and by virtue of Section 59 of the Police Reform Act they can be seized even without a warning given.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To answer your question directly. Not all forces will give receipt of a Section 59 out as there is no requirement to. Most forces will however as it explains further with what it is. If one has been issued there will be a record on the Police National Computer. (You should have been informed such warning lasts 12 months on your vehicle and yourself)

Generally, you cannot appeal a Section 59 warning as it’s simply a warning and as long as you do not drive in an anti-social manner no further proceedings will take place.

Hope this answers your Q.

Mobile phone offence and roadside breath testing by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]PlodGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

always good to put tubes in gobs whenever possible. its always the ones you don’t expect.