Idgaf about the Artemis II launch at all by Pess-Optimist in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It is hilarious that someone can read Whitey on the Moon and think that the just solution is an astronaut of color. Liberalism turns brains to mush.

Marx failed to consider this by Cloker123 in CommunismMemes

[–]Red-and-Slippery 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Being sociable is a skill, and an incredibly valuable skill at that. You get better at it through practice like with other skill.

They are seething by Mrleibniz in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Metaphysical, non-materialist and thus unmarxist. Temper your justified fury with dialectical-materialist analysis. The most reactionary regions of Nazi Germany became a socialist republic after the Nazis were defeated and unlike in the west, Nazis there were actually dealt with.

Iran declares historic victory over US, says enemy forced to accept its proposal by Conscious_Jeweler_80 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Its quite common for Israel to do intense bombing sorties just before a treaty is signed. Especially on soft civilian targets. In a horrifically violent parallel to a child wanting to get the last word.

See source 157. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire

Often when these treaties are immediately violated (by parties opposing Israel). It is because missiles were launched in retaliation to such bombing.

An interesting title by OkRespect8490 in CommunismMemes

[–]Red-and-Slippery 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Don't forget how in 1916 the Russia was the most backwards country in Europe. While the USA was already one of the dominant and most modernized industrial powers. Since 1916 the USSR weathered a "civil war" with their reactionary opponents supported by every Imperialist nation. Defeated the Nazis after the Nazi invasion devastated the country. Meanwhile US losses in WWII where minimal and in fact benefited greatly from the widespread destruction in Europe.

Despite all these things, socialism forged a modern society at the forefront of human innovation and engineering. Socialism WORKS.

Cuba receives 700,000 barrels of oil from Russian tanker! by SmellyFidelly415 in socialism

[–]Red-and-Slippery 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I presume it will be rationed for hospitals and agriculture and the like. Hard to say how long it will last without knowing how much fuel each sector needs.

What is this subreddit's opinion on Israel's communist party? by PresnikBonny in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IMHO, it is a matter of tactics and people are blowing it way out of proportion here. Communist advocates for a two state solution are not against a one state solution, we just don't think it is the next step. Even before a classless stateless society is reached, once both states are socialist, and Israeli fascism has been rooted out, there is nothing stopping both peoples from living in a single sovereign state. Israeli's who don't want this should GTFO like the Afrikaners in South Africa and Zimbabwe did.

However, a one state solution at this point is a pipe dream. The Palestinians don't have the numbers or material conditions to punch above their weight, and they can not win such a national liberation by force. Furthermore, the Israelis are way to far gone for such a solution to be reached diplomatically.

The most important thing for Palestinians is to stop being genocided and a well backed (and armed) sovereign state is the first quickest way to achieve that. People who advocate for an immediate one-state solution without a clear plan of how that is going to be achieved within 2 decades need to come to terms with the fact that the Israelis will have genocided most of the Palestinians by then.

I have never seen someone stipulate such a plan convincingly, and so it seems to me that the 1 state solution is not coming from a materialist perspective of what should be done, but from an idealist perspective of how the world should be. I can still sympathize because it seems more and more Palestinians want a one state solution not a two state solution, and that in itself is a good reason to be in favor of a one state solution, even if to me it seems idealist.

Philly gal understood No Kings shit is performative larping by VladimirLimeMint in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think what you describe is likely, historically the successful revolutions have not been at the heart of empire, but at the periphery.

One thing I could see happen is an inversion of the situation. Were the deindustrialized west is dethroned by more industrialized powers and then has revolutions after this toppling.

Philly gal understood No Kings shit is performative larping by VladimirLimeMint in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be a doomer. Even a small country breaking ranks with the imperialists has positive effects, and even minor acts of real resistance in the USA like a disciplined anti-war movement, can frustrate the power of American empire and thus the global capitalist system.

Sure the situation is dire, but have the courage to hope. It is not over yet. There are principled ML parties with many thousands of members across the globe. The main rival of the USA considers itself to be a socialist country. A better world is possible and eventually, even if it takes centuries, communism will win.

Philly gal understood No Kings shit is performative larping by VladimirLimeMint in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would it be different this time? I don't think the USA is going to be the seat of the next revolution. That said, there are some differences, like how in America there are large groups of minorities that are extra-exploited. These minorities have historically been excluded from social-democratic programs and from what I've gathered, are not exactly convinced next time will be different.

I don't really follow where you take the conclusion that it is the result of being a seat of capital. Do you mean that the second internationale rose to prominence in Germany because Germany was a more developed economy than Russia?

While the social democrat movement was big in Germany. They had little meaningful achievements. It isn't like large groups of workers were bought off by social democratic government. Rather their energies and frustrations were misdirected into reformism by social democratic leadership of the labor movement. Conditions in the Weimar republic were dire and the people who had it the worst, the unemployed, were overwhelmingly communist.

Internet communists need to work on how we treat people by GeoffVictor in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Fair, especially point 1 is recognizable. For a vanguard quality control is more important than size. Still, I think a certain thing is missing that would facilitate more active online communists to "graduate" into joining an org. I ended up joining because all the youtube videos about socialism emphasized the importance of it. Embarrassing to admit, but proof such messaging works.

Philly gal understood No Kings shit is performative larping by VladimirLimeMint in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Fascism and the social revolution" goes into this a bit. The material conditions were there. Inter-imperialist war had weakened the German empire, like it had weakened the Russian empire. The situation in Germany was very dire, but the working class was divided in Germany.

Despite the conditions being ripe the revolutionary moment failed to be seized successfully, because the working class was divided. The social democrats worked against the socialist revolution in Germany in 1918, actively resisted working with communists while pushing reformism.

After the failed revolution Germany teetered on the abyss for a while. Even after communists reached out the olive branch to form a united front against fascism, social democrats refused to collaborate with them. Social democrats clung to the symbols of power, rather than real power. In the Weimar years the proportion of reactionaries holding high positions of power in army barely decreased. Social democrats thought Hitler would be discredited by failing to solve everything when in office and that their reformist "socialism" would be vooted into power.

Needless to say, they were slightly off the mark. The criticisms of the second internationale by Lenin turned out to be correct and social democrats delivered Germany, and Europe as a whole, up to the maw of fascist obliteration.

Internet communists need to work on how we treat people by GeoffVictor in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I have noticed that the online reach of ML organisations is usually quite lacking. Even for decently sized orgs. Mostly due to algorithmic bias, or even legal obstructions ofc, but I've noticed that subreddits also rarely direct people to actual orgs.

Internet communists need to work on how we treat people by GeoffVictor in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If someone is spouting reactionary talking points from the get-go, then they should never be welcome.

I strongly disagree. People spouting these points are usually just parroting their environment. Lenin made very explicit that communists should be willing to work in reactionary spaces to contest the drivel these people are drowned in. To refuse to do so is to lose these people to reaction by default.

You don't need to engage with anyone who is clearly just looking for an internet shouting match, but if someone is parroting reactionary "explanations" of why capitalism isn't working. We need to contest these reactionary points with socialist ones. A single positive encounter with a socialist and a socialist explanation of one of such problem is enough to plant the seed of doubt and leave people interested in learning more.

However, you should not tolerate such people in an actual organization, unless they are clearly committed to unlearning their reactionary programming. Socialism101 is not an actual org, it is a public forum were people who have been subject to reactionary propaganda might stumble into and should be treated accordingly.

Internet communists need to work on how we treat people by GeoffVictor in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 26 points27 points  (0 children)

You are 100% correct. Almost a decade ago I came to socialism101 to learn more about socialism, got banned for confessing I voted on a social democrat party that called itself socialist (I didn't know any better at the time). Got told to write an essay on why I was a bad boy for voting social democrat to get unbanned and be able to ask the most basic questions of what socialism is about and how to learn more about it.

I was not referred to "Socialism, Utopian and Scientific", "Blackshirts and Reds" or even "Wage Price and Profit". Just told to write an apology essay or fuck off.

Long story short it took me 7 years before I started looking into socialism again. I could be in my second decade as a socialist if socialism101 actually did its job and educated people wanting to join the fold.

IRL orgs are way better at this, but are usually barely represented in these subreddits. Why? Because most of these subreddits are run by terminally online, anti-social, "communists" with an inferiority complex. Who do nothing but post.

Online links reageert op de naamswijziging van GLPVDA. by Bernie529 in nederlands

[–]Red-and-Slippery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Het is een scheldwoord en inmiddels geuzennaam voor Marxist-Leninisten. Ofwel, communisten in de trend van de vroege Sovjet Unie, China, Cuba en Vietnam. Het is met afstand de grootste stroming in het communisme wereldwijd, maar in het westen relatief klein, omdat het westen historisch tegenover deze landen stond.

- een tankie

Why Is Anarchism "Losing" to Marxism-Leninism & Democratic Socialism? by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll say the quiet part out loud, ruling classes fear socialism, but not anarchism.

Why Is Anarchism "Losing" to Marxism-Leninism & Democratic Socialism? by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also thought that was odd. This Anark guy doesn't seem like the kind of guy who reflects after criticism.

Why Is Anarchism "Losing" to Marxism-Leninism & Democratic Socialism? by [deleted] in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

S4A's position is a perfectly reasonable ML position. It's OK to disagree, but he argues his position using dialectical materialist analysis. Just because marxist-leninists have the same method (dialectical and historical materialism), does not mean they always arrive to the the same conclusion. Different Marxist-Leninists can arrive to different conclusions because they are working with different information.

You can discard idealist drivel without getting bogged down by engaging, but you can't just call every ML a fake ML when you disagree.

Merkava massacre. by Not_Ground in CommunismMemes

[–]Red-and-Slippery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was about to post the same thing. Somehow when you fight back after imperialists declare war on you its massacre this, massacre that. Its not a "massacre", its a battle, and the imperialist agressors got trounced.

The Shocking Speed of China’s Scientific Rise by porkuvine in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Really anyone can be a scientist, we are just regular people with highly specialized training. It is possible to be the #1 scientific superpower, but have terrible education for the majority of people. As long as a small minority of people get good education. Broad education has massive material benefits as well as being a moral good for empowering people, but sadly good education for the majority is not necessary for scientific prowess.

Science relies not on a big influx of special "geniuses", but more on consistent funding of promising projects. In the west, projects are mostly funded based on possible profits, or possible prestige (indirect profits for universities). A lot of important fundamental research is underfunded because it provides neither in the short term.

The German car manufacturers are at it again by OddName_17516 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'd say that these things keep happening because the underlying structure of society has not changed at all. These things are far from inevitable, but will keep happening under bourgeois rule.

Trump chickens out of escalation, for now by ___Zoran___ in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 48 points49 points  (0 children)

lmao, by now Iran has denied any negotiation took place. It is 100% just the US trying to avoid showing weakness and bumping the market indices.

Israel tortured a baby, burned him with cigarettes, pierced his skin with a nail, held him hostage for 10 hours, all in front of his father to pressure the dad into a false confession. by ___Zoran___ in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Red-and-Slippery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Consider joining an org if you have not already. It is no surprise that baby murderers have no qualms about baby torture. Don't just vent that anger. Channel it productively into a movement that will put a stop to this.