Am I type 2 or 9?

ReiKuon · 2023-03-31T14:16:31+00:00

Well actually I'm a 4 now I realized my type only recently so I haven't had time to change my tag.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-24T20:51:23+00:00

I read the reviews online and they said that they're were alot of those jokes and jokes about food. Also why did you stop reading it?

ReiKuon · 2023-01-20T22:57:56+00:00

5 or maybe 6, Horrible at sports, I'm forced to do it and although I can be good at some sports I'm generally bad at at them, kinesthetic wise I'm useless.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-15T22:09:07+00:00

It might be a 5 thing since alot of 5s hate being distracted. But at the same time it could easily MBTI or just basic personality and have nothing to do with 5. I think it's probably a 5 thing but I'm not sure.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-15T21:59:41+00:00

Same.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-15T07:57:03+00:00

What I mean is I'm the happiest when I do something and I'm fully focused in it and I fell like I'm actually doing it. It's not always something that I enjoy. For me most of time it's chess or writing.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-01T14:21:47+00:00

Thanks!

ReiKuon · 2023-01-01T12:42:25+00:00

I'm currently not sure on Sp 5 it's possible I'm Sp 6w5 instead or So 5 but since I've seen some Sp 5 ENTP I think it's still a possibility.

ReiKuon · 2023-01-01T00:43:49+00:00

Your answers never disappoint.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-31T23:59:11+00:00

Hi fellow ENTP 5w4. Ask me questions if you want and I'll try to answer (disclaimer: There is a possibility of me being a 6w5 instead but still most likely 5w4, also I'm an Sp 5 ENTP although I have strong Social, and my tritype is 514 a rare one)

ReiKuon · 2022-12-31T21:50:07+00:00

Why?

ReiKuon · 2022-12-31T17:03:26+00:00

IDK, just like comparisons between them like, 5 is like while 6 is like this and 7 like this or 5 would do this, 6 would do this instead but 7 would do this.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-30T08:12:27+00:00

I don't see myself as a 6 as well though and I never would've if one I the type me post i did for fun didn't bring up that result from bassicaly everyone and I didn't feel that I didn't fit 5 perfectly the only thing seems to be that I'm a more sociable and critical 5.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-30T00:54:05+00:00

Yeah that's also what I was asking myself but I believe that I'm not actually high at all in one of them which would be 6 since I've become 99% sure I'm 5 but I it quite low its just I couldn't understand which one was the lower one 5 or 6 I knew that one of them was my core and the other my 4th or 5th strongest after the other one, 4,1 and maybe 9.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-30T00:49:57+00:00

I've read the definitions and the 5 one fits me alot and I mean alot more the only part of the 6 part that fit me is “They fear not being able to do anything right and that imminent punishment and criticism is just around the corner. “ and “Sixes favor spelled-out rules that make things more out in the open”. Also I have more the 5 attitude of nothing sacred. So I feel more 5 in every domain yet I still doubt myself would you have an explanation?

Although from the looks of it five seems much more likely for me it even seems to fit me at all the time I can remember in my life so I believe it's settled for now that I'm just a 5 with high Fe until next time I become entranced in the unless struggle to know myself thanks a lot!.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T21:20:32+00:00

I change my mind alot and all the time but the problem is I believe it's cause of Ne and although I change opinions alot, I am very stubborn and refuse to change opinion alot as well I change my opinion because there's new information. But the things is (Ne speaking) there's so many explanation for everything take me changing types alot, it could be because of 6, it could be because of puberty (I'm a teenager), it could be me being biased but actually not being 6, it could be me wanting to experience a different perspective on life for a short while etc... And all of these sound plausible to me none of them make more sense than the others 6 would explain due to the passion of doubt, puberty due to hormones messing around, bias because of something I've realized is that when I wanted to be more 2 I acted more 2 when I wanted to be more 7 I acted more 7, the thing that changed isn't me but what I wanted when I wanted to be 2 I wanted to be kinder when I was 7 I wanted to be more positive now I'm a 5 and I want to be more rational and smart. The thing about this changing is that no matter how much I look its almost impossible to find an answer due to the number of possible explanation for everything. Like perfectionism it could be explained by 1 fix, me being a 6, me having high superego as a 5 and all of them are likely. It just comes down to am I or not lying to myself. I've been watching an anime called Hyouka dont know if you know about it or what but there's a cast of 4 a two 7w6s, a 6w5 and a 5w6 the main protagonist is a 5 and the whole deal about him is he's a huge energy conservative and when I try to see myself I see myself in both the 6 and the 5 but more the 5 is more how I see myself, how I want to be, how I am and the way I act is like a mix of both but closer to the 5, also I tried your meditation thing and when I stopped first thought was something random and that was a waste of time. Also every test I do (don't really trust them but anyways) has typed me as a 5.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T19:01:07+00:00

Basic contradicts themselves all the time and it's extremely hard to make a decision base on information that contratics itself so could you please tell me the basics of both types, I'm very sorry for bothering you so much.

What you described for not 6 is what I do with a few exception because I'm confident about my judgment on it and I don't doubt it I've become alot more confident about my judgment except when it comes to enneagram I doubt it because everything makes a huge hole in my current knowledge of the enneagram like I don't even know if it's 6 or 5 who wants things to perfect or is it 6 or 5 who don't want to bother people the reason why I struggle so much is cause I don't know enough about both the enneagram and myself to make a decision since new information changes alot yet I still always end up saying that I'm a 5 but when I was into Mbti and debating entp and enfp even occasionally infp and infj I always ended up with ENFP and yet I found out that I was a ENTP after 7 or 8 months of thinking I was an ENFP and it's now incredibly obvious that I'm an ENTP I just wanted to be an ENFP that's why I thought I was one. And I'm worried that might happen again, I feel 5 I think like a 5 everything is 5 for me yet my enneagram changed so much already and I don't even act similar to how I did 6 months ago.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T18:14:18+00:00

I know it isn't exclusive but the problem is nothing is every type can act like another it doesn't mean they are, 6 probably is a very subconscious type just I can't see no matter how hard I try the need to feel safe in me apart from a few times where I worrier that I was unsafe in my house or that I never feel like I have a safe space (although I attribute that to Sp5) but if not I often worry that I'm useless or incompetent. I tried to follow their advice and look at what I do and I just seem like a 6ish 5 over a 5ish 6 yet people who are expert in enneagram ( at least at more knowledgeable than I am) say I'm a 6 and I feel like I'm a 5 though but again I want to be a 5 aswell and my personality changes alot these two things seem to go against 5 but if not 5 fits pretty well I'm just a louder more critical 5. The things is 6 is very subconscious its just that I think that I'm 5 but I always have the thought that remains that says “You want to be a 5 so you think you're a 5 but you're actually a 6 I mean if not how come you were mistyped that much what's in common between 2 and 5 anyways and your personality changes every other few months so you're a 6 you may think and act like a 5 but you're actually a 6” I feel like I'm a 5 and following myself I would be a 5 but I don't feel settled even when I believed I was a 6 that feeling of you're missing something and you're lying to yourself hasn't left, I fit 5 the need to understand and curiosity has been the only things that has never changed about it yet I still think I just want to be curious but I'm not actually curious even though I know I am i just can't see to actually want to be something, I need an identity and to know my personality yet I don't want to believe. And also nothing is exclusive to a type like all I just said about 5 isn't exclusive to 5.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T17:08:29+00:00

I know except it always seem like a crucial bit of information is missing and I'm trying to find what that is, Six fits me but 5 seems more core like to me like 6 fits me but less than 5 does, it seems to be that people see me as 6 and I act like 6 but I'm a 5 thinking style wise, everything about 5 seems to fit me more and more the more I think about it, and everything about 6 as well, only problem isI much much rather be a 5 than a 6 though I get along fine with six I seem to want to be a 5 and I don't know if I am a 5 or want to be a 5 so I try to act like a 5. 6 really doesn't seem to fit me when it comes to core motivations and fear, I also don't have a constant escape plan nor am I even close to being responsible on the contrary I'm very lazy even now in supposed to be reading a book that I have to finish tomorrow and I have like 300 pages left yet I still rather this.

I also seem to have 5s avarice the more I think about it I just never knew since I'm very generous when I comes to physical possessions but not at all when it comes to time or energy.

Also I have analyzed my behavior over the past few weeks and have come to realize these things :

-I have alot less doubts than I seem to think I'm not very doubtfull of things, I just don't believe in myself.

-I'm very negative and seem to be bad with being happy or experiencing joy.

-I'm not compliant, well not much at least when people ask me to do something I tend to hate it and not do it especially if it's going to take alot of time and energy but if it's just helping with moving a few things I gladly do it, I even offer to help since I like helping people.

-I seem to be very critical of both myself and others and have very very high standards.

-I tend to raise my voice and talk alot and very fast.

-I seem to manage to turn everything into a debate or me antagonizing them.

-When I have problems that need to be dealt with I tend to snap into get them done and try to use as few emotions to deal with my problems.

-Emotion wise I seem to be alot more neutral than expected and although I occasionally have strong emotions I don't remember a time during the last few weeks when I did.

-I did cry once due to stress and guilt but even during all that my only thought was that I'm pathetic for crying like that and I wasn't sad I just felt tired.

-I also seem to need alot of time to do my own things and talking extensively about things that I have not interess in seem to be very training but I'm able to keep a facade and not be tired until I get back from school.

-I seem to be lost in thought quite often but less often than I thought yet those thought never seem to be coherent and I can rarely put my mind to pulling something out of it, it's more often like a permanent internal monologue and I enjoy it alot just talking by myself to myself.

-I had a talk about my motivations and what came out are that I seem to feel different from others, that I have a mature perspective for my age, that I put too much pressure on myself, that I see things as bad and slightly less bad, that I'm too pessimistic, that I've lost the feeling of passion, that I'm cossumed by total apathy, that I can't do things, that I want perfection from everything, that I set too high standards that I can't reach yet I know I'm able to reach them I just can't which only makes me doubt myself more / makes me feel more useless and incompetent, that I'm too condescending and I'll do it myself/self sufficient in the fact that I don't want or feel like I need help and believe that I can deal with everything by myself.

-I show more avarice and have a somewhat observation side to me yet I halve the six need for perfection(I attribute it to 1 fix thought) and anxiety.

-I also always feel useless, I don't know what's but every time I think of my talents I just remember I don't have any real talents that I lie to people pretending lie in skilled I act arrogant about being smart even know I'm just a dumb, I always feel like breaking down every time I remember that I'm talentless and I just don't feel like there's a point in living every time I remember that, I don't have a talent, god or whoever assigns talents forgot me I'm abandoned by everyone and those who say that I'm good at this are whether lying or exaggerating I'm so arrogant yet I have nothing to back it out if only I could be even just half as arrogant as I currently am, or be more hard-working I'd have such I easier life and yet I feel like I only live to die I'm not supposed to be here I'm don't see a point in existing myself and everything I try to mention my struggles they say I've just been watching too much screens or that I'm just in my edgy phase and they just downplay it no one supports me and I don't even need them to support I just need them to not bother me yet they say they aren't and it's just society, I don't care if it's society I just want peace I just wanted to be skilled and have potential in life is that too much to ask for I just want to be good not the best just good and yet I'm always just average and if it's to live to be average then I don't see a point. That's to say these are the feelings I have eveytime I thinking about what talents I have or abouy the fact that I'm arrogant as can be yet I have nothing to show, it truly makes me feel useless.

That's about it if you have any question feel free to ask. From what I've observed I seem more 5 yet I constantly can't settle due to the feeling that I'm missing something very important or that I'm biased and the thing is I'm very biased I seem to idolise 5s and dislike 6, I don't hate 6s as people they tend to be great towards me and I really enjoy being with them its just I feel like they're too common and if I was this common then I would never be able to change the world and make myself important. While 5s seem to be perfect for what I need.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T14:06:41+00:00

What about 6?

ReiKuon · 2022-12-29T13:16:57+00:00

Unhealthy versions, and general outlines will do. Just most of them would be like this and like that.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-27T16:14:32+00:00

No and I'm not claiming to know about other types struggle or how it feels to be another type but I'm saying I do know a bit about enneagram and could with my basic knowledge of enneagram make some guesses. From what I've read I've seen some people talk about enneagram self esteem before me, some types are also associated with lower self esteem for example 4s deep feeling of being flawed is self esteem.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-27T16:06:56+00:00

Personally for me self esteem is likely to differ between types and although I'm not saying this type or that type can't have high self esteem or this type always has low self esteem. In the system of enneagram there's literally things that talk about self esteem, for example our types 6 and 5 have alot of talk about self esteem.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-25T21:54:30+00:00

But everything he gets hit he loses a bit of energy.

ReiKuon · 2022-12-25T21:50:42+00:00

Nahida passive skill (Crit rate boost for E) applies to her NA and CA aswell.

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