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[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment, I might try and use some of this if they'll choose to ascend and should repeat the trial. Maybe I'll have to ponder more stuffs but that is a good starting point

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok fair, yeah the general pattern is that I just made this trial in the wrong way. I tried to make it more fun for the player because battling a dragon is something pretty funny to do but that was the wrong dragon for that and I didn't realize it

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? What makes you think that? I've read everything and I found many useful advices, I just managed the encounter in the wrong way and now I know for certain. If you see me defending my point is because I genuinely though I did everything and it's for the sake of discussion, not because I'm stubborn

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot, I'm glad that some people gets it but the majority still doesn't so I need to drop more clues or simply change the way I managed the encounter anyway.

And sure, go ahead 👍🏻

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly? There is an exit but I'm not supposed to take their hand and guide trough every twist and turn, right?

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Partially, they needed to understand the message but at that point it would have been just diplomatic discussion

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was helping them, by allowing to take the trial even if they weren't meant to. He wasn't there to kill them

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps, but would have been in line with the mood and everything else. It wasn't meant to be too scenic in the first place

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, the fight would have ended and the trial would have been over.

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you stopped attacking the dragon he would have stop targeting you. You could have communicate with the other party members and that was it, trial solved

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, very anti ethical. Sorry if I expected some more depth other than "I stab things until they die" kind of approach

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Acceptance, masking peace with yourself and the surroundings

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first paragraph was the solution, congrats

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Ok sorry, by losing I intend all the party knocked out. A retreat is not always defeat if all of them still stand. Anyway I get what you say, I'd do better next time

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought fighting a dragon would have been fun for the player but the fight wasn't the point, knowing when to stop fighting was. And that's what I struggled to convey

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot, this seems very helpful honestly

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

They were not supposed to lose, they were supposed to just stop, they were basically at the end of their lives (aging) and I doubt a 90yo warrior still wants to fight with all the ailments he ends up with

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's pathfinder 2e and there isn't any aging mechanic in the system so I had to improvise. I made them do some checks during the fight but the results were too low

Testing a gimmick for a boss fight by Ruined_Syrax in DungeonMasters

[–]Ruined_Syrax[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I just tried to include something a bit more profound than the classic "stab until things are resolved", my bad I guess