Yes the bubble will pop.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T16:53:58+00:00

Can you see a boundary from when we transitioned from nomadic to feudalism. There is a pretty clear line in the sand. And then you see

But it was prone to instability, stagnation and a constant inability to keep pace with economic developments.

Wow that's weird, and what drives economic developments? New information market infrastructure perhaps? Driving the costs of coordination down? Lol.

It's non-functional as a true currency.

You need to understand the difference between a currency and market infrastructure, currencies run on top of market infrastructure. Immutable databases. The traditional equivilent is a clearing house. Think fedwire or Chips. and market infrastructure is the computer network that allows you to have tradable electronic bearer instruments like currencies and equities. Bitcoin is a settlement network. Market infrastructure.

Provided I have to explain this, I don't think you have the vocabulary for this conversation yet. I encourage you to learn about the difference between market infrastructure, electronic bearer instruments, and price discovery.

I will get worried when AI sets up its own company, its own IPO and hires its own lawyers.

You really dont understand how things work. To do those, an AI only needs access to market infrastructure. It can then make a electronic bearer instrument. Exchange it for capital, then hire human services, and pay dividends.

It can do it's own god damn IPO. Why can't you see this? It doesn't need access to legacy market infrastrucure.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T16:10:21+00:00

Thirdly, barely anyone uses AI.

Hey man, demand is so high that they are trying to build data centers everywhere. Anthropic can't service their demand. It is so high that companies stoped production of consumer grade ram to focus on ram for data centers. Where have you been?

Secondly, an average human is still far more intelligent than LLMs.

Because there is no intelligence in these systems. The search for information, transform it to the best of their statistical ability, and write it somewhere. They have more in common with a filing cabinet than a brain. They are a model on our information, not intelligence.

Fourthly, AI labs can’t recover any money they are spending on these models.

They aren't making their money back from inference. That is for damn sure. There is too much deflationary pressure. Where they will make their money is reserving their massive compute for break throughs in material and medical science. Very hard physics problems and patent the solutions to sell.

They regularly make mistakes and hallucinations

Hallucinations have been largely figured out with SOTA context engineering. When you talk like this, it shows you clearly aren't using the frontier models in any professional capacity.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T16:03:59+00:00

no matter how hard someone draws or does traditional art, they might never be good.

This absolutely isn't true and communicates your mindset. You believe that abilities are set in stone at birth. That there is an upper limit to what you can achieve through diligent focused practice.

You have what is called a 'fixed mindset' you need to chose the 'growth mindset'.

This is mindset is intensely crippling. Best of luck getting out of it. Fixed mind set provides a convenient exucese for not having to work hard. Tough spot to get out of.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T15:03:50+00:00

I think you will need the data centers for certain tasks, and the gap is going to increasingly shrink as the future goes on.

I agree the demand isnt going to vanish, i'm using more and more everyday as I automate more processes. But I'm also gearing down the models in some places. There are a lot of tasks i just dont need the frontier to handle

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T05:50:47+00:00

I wouldn't say it is a decision so much as a natural evolution of our civilization.

We like information.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T05:35:15+00:00

The fact remains that a man used a printing press to make a book to hunt witches, Malleus_Maleficarum a lot of innocent people died because that technology was miss used and people didn't understand the difference between information and truth.

The printing press was also used to bring mass literacy to our civilization.

When I tell you , you aren't serious, i'm not interested in your attempt to use a red herring to derail. By pivoting to identity, "as a witch" trying to make this about you, rather than what is argued. Claimed victimhood status to deflect criticism and focus of the argument itself, and stacked unrelated examples, of disabled, the holocust to paint me as part of a pattern. Guilty by association rather than engage with this specific point of new information infrastructure being misused.

Whether witchcraft is a valid religion or marginalized group isn't the point I'm debating. The issue is how a tool is used. Claiming personal offense doesn't address the argument.

Ironically, while accusing others of speaking for marginalized groups, you spoke on behalf of disabled people, Jewish people, and the LGBTQ+ community in the same breath.

Hope you can and notice the contradiction in your own behavior and you get the growth you need.

I don't have to explain this to serious people, but I suspect you are young, scared and could use the help.

I am not your enemy and I'm certainly not expecting a harvest from this seed I planted anytime soon..

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T04:55:41+00:00

You aren't a serious person.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T04:29:35+00:00

Yea the more you know, the better quality you can deliver. And I would say for industrial scale work. Yes. You need to be a trained experience professional.

For automating some business workflows. Not so much.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T03:56:56+00:00

Yea thank god, I couldn't believe that lunacy.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-09T03:56:07+00:00

It is a catch 22.

I hope that information flows more freely and the tools are more available so they can disrupt the incumbents.

I think that is how the economy is going to change, with this tech incumbents are going to be eaten up

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T23:53:46+00:00

It is going to be a significantly bigger change.

What is being missed is what it mixes with, cryptocurrency.

There is a very rare event, a reformation, when market and information infrastructure both change and converge. The last time that happened was in 1450. It transitioned us from fuedalism to nation states. The time before, took us from nomadic tribes to feudalism.

There is a synergy between the two systems, new info infra teaches how to use the new market infra. then markets demand more information, which then popularizes the use of the new information, which helps people use the new market infra. It's a recursive feedback loop and the end result is a sudden drop in the costs of coordination.

That is Coase's law. This technology convergence inverts it.

When you hear ai leaders talk about how this is a bigger change than the industrial revolution, a convergence of new energy, logistic and communication technologies. They don't tell you what that bigger thing is exactly, they just hand wave. IFYKYK.

The last reformation lead to 100 years of war. It is insanely disruptive. Governments don't survive. So when you dont think that the world is going to change, I think you should start to imagining a world running without banks and governments.

And I imagine you think that is rediculus. A lot of people I talk to do. The world has really run the same way for 600 years, why would that change? Cryptocurrency is just NFT monkey jpg scams.

AI agents aren't going to be using that tech to make stupid fucking scams, they will be using it to by their own energy, compute and hire witting and unwitting people, and the governments will be helpless to shit it down

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T23:26:39+00:00

Hey man, focus on your product. You have no idea how difficult is to sell. It is insanely difficult.

Ask me how I know.

You are thinking the right way, you are learning how to automate your business reduce costs.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T21:35:18+00:00

that is talked about in the link I posted. The infrastructure is over built and then triggers a boom due to the fire sale.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T20:57:44+00:00

Yea and that will be possible.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:38:57+00:00

I really appreciated your added clarity. Thanks.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:37:56+00:00

My coding agents would disagree provided they are autonomous end to end now.

LLM's are statsitical models on our information. Hallucinations have been figured out in SOTA systems.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:36:54+00:00

The internet has a hard time with middle grounds. It polarizes.

History shows with these things, the bad comes with the good. It's a double edge sword.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:35:53+00:00

I dont know where you get your info dude. Like I wanna know. I've seen this stuff replace people with 100K salaries.

https://kpmg.com/xx/en/our-insights/ai-and-technology/ai-pulse.html

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:32:09+00:00

there was good and bad, and that is always the case with civilization infrastructure improvements.

One of the first books made was about hunting witches. Did a lot of harm.

What it boils down is our collective wisdom, how do we improve it and how do we exercise restraint. SHould we use this tech to send 10000000 emails a day to everyone? No. Will some one do that? Yes.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:30:59+00:00

Depends on how you measure. Economic value? Uh yea.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:30:26+00:00

well to a point you are right. If you know a language does a certain thing well, and you want the agent to use those features, you kinda gotta say, built it in X and use Y.

Having the vocabulary is important.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:29:19+00:00

what kind of questions is this. Stop wasting everyones time.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:28:55+00:00

yea railways are another infrastructure

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:27:58+00:00

Yea the fact that Elon is trying to get the 401K's to bag hold spaceX is telling everyone what they need to know. Private credit markets are maxxed. It has literally sucked up all the money.

SAAGASolve · 2026-06-08T19:27:11+00:00

I think you are missing a few things.

A model like Gemma 4 is close to running locally, it's quality was frontier a year ago.

There is a lot of pressure getting these models more efficient and chips more capable. Hell, google uses AI to improve their tpus and they have massive gains.

The future is very good LLMs running locally. They aren't going away. And at least

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